Quality black ATX case

[@drian]

Can anyone recommend a quality black case with 120mm fan mounts and
provisions to cool two fast hard drives? Full or mid tower is fine. I've
tried the Antec Sonata but didn't like it as it didn't provide sufficient
cooling for the hard drives.

Thanks.

@drian.

 

[nightic]

Can anyone recommend a quality black case with 120mm fan mounts and
provisions to cool two fast hard drives? Full or mid tower is fine. I've
tried the Antec Sonata but didn't like it as it didn't provide sufficient
cooling for the hard drives.

Perhaps the 'Yeong Yang 5601'.

Not entirely Black but does include 120mm intake & exhaust
fan-mounting support:


http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20030804/case-42.html

http://www.modthebox.com/review228_1.shtml

http://www.subzerotech.com/index/module/sz_news_display/id/5187

 

[mshackleford]

How about the Lian Li PC-71?

http://www.lian-li.com/

Can anyone recommend a quality black case with 120mm fan mounts and
provisions to cool two fast hard drives? Full or mid tower is fine. I've
tried the Antec Sonata but didn't like it as it didn't provide sufficient
cooling for the hard drives.

Thanks.

@drian.

It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word.
-- Andrew Jackson

 

[Bob Day]

Can anyone recommend a quality black case with 120mm fan mounts and
provisions to cool two fast hard drives? Full or mid tower is fine. I've
tried the Antec Sonata but didn't like it as it didn't provide sufficient
cooling for the hard drives.

Crosspost; don't multipost.

-- Bob Day

 

[@drian]

Crosspost; don't multipost.

I'll post however I like, thanks. Geez, I deliberatly DIDN'T crosspost as
some people have a chip on their shoulder about it. And now you're moaning
because I didn't crosspost! You can't win. As I said, I'll post how I
like.

@drian.

 

[Ken Briscoe]

I'll post however I like, thanks. Geez, I deliberatly DIDN'T crosspost as

some people have a chip on their shoulder about it. And now you're moaning
because I didn't crosspost! You can't win. As I said, I'll post how I
like.

There's a difference between crossposting and multiposting. Crossposting is
posting one message to multiple newsgroups at the same time. Multiposting is
posting the same message over and over to multiple newsgroups. If you
crosspost, once a message is read in one NG, it is marked as read in *all*
NG's. This is not true for multiposts. Multiposts are frowned upon in most
circumstances. In fact, I can't think of any time when it's not.
Crossposting is perfectly alright - provided that *all* groups you post to
are relevant. Crossposting is *not* OK when you post to groups and it would
require an OT: in one group. So in the future, if you must post to more than
one group, please crosspost. Only the people who don't know the difference
get pissed off, and they should learn how to use usenet before they get so
uptight. Just don't post to more than one NG if it's off topic for one of
those groups. That's all...carry on.

 

[feroce]

Can anyone recommend a quality black case with 120mm fan mounts and
provisions to cool two fast hard drives? Full or mid tower is fine. I've
tried the Antec Sonata but didn't like it as it didn't provide sufficient
cooling for the hard drives.

Thanks.

@drian.

I have the Globalwin YCC-61F1 in black, extremely pleased with it.
Review here:

http://www.gamershell.com/reviews_GlobalWinYCC-61F1ServerC.shtml

You can buy it here:

http://www.computernerd.com/ycc-61f1.html

My Seagate drives rarely go more than 2 degrees C higher than room temp...
can't ask for much more than that.

feroce

 

[Dusty]

Whereever you find one,make sure that it is not from Str8buy.com. They
are real rip-offs,do not back what they sell.Found out through bad
eperience!!!!

 

[@drian]

There's a difference between crossposting and multiposting. Crossposting is
posting one message to multiple newsgroups at the same time. Multiposting is
posting the same message over and over to multiple newsgroups.

Well, I posted my message to *two* hardware groups, not many like it was
made out. Not that I care that much, however I usually stay within the
"rules".

If you
crosspost, once a message is read in one NG, it is marked as read in *all*
NG's. This is not true for multiposts. Multiposts are frowned upon in most
circumstances. In fact, I can't think of any time when it's not.
Crossposting is perfectly alright - provided that *all* groups you post to
are relevant. Crossposting is *not* OK when you post to groups and it would
require an OT: in one group. So in the future, if you must post to more than
one group, please crosspost. Only the people who don't know the difference
get pissed off, and they should learn how to use usenet before they get so
uptight. Just don't post to more than one NG if it's off topic for one of
those groups.

OK, I see.

That's all...carry on.

LOL!

Seriously, thanks for the advice.

@drian.

 

[Pack Fan]

Whereever you find one,make sure that it is not from Str8buy.com. They
are real rip-offs,do not back what they sell.Found out through bad
eperience!!!!

The Lian Li PC-71 USB is a monster full tower. Very cool, very pricey. But
I'm leaning heavily towards it for two reasons. First, it has a 15 drive
capacity. Second, excellent cooling due to its aluminum construction. I also
like the fact that the aluminum is anodized for greater strength, though
this is likely overkill.

http://www.lian-li.com/product.php?action=viewPD&prdid=375

 

[SPS 700]

The Lian Li PC-71 USB is a monster full tower. Very cool, very pricey. But

I'm leaning heavily towards it for two reasons. First, it has a 15 drive
capacity. Second, excellent cooling due to its aluminum construction. I also
like the fact that the aluminum is anodized for greater strength, though
this is likely overkill.

Aluminum is not anodized for greater strength, it is anodized to prevent
corrosion, like painting steel. It adds nothing to strength.

 

[Pack Fan]

Aluminum is not anodized for greater strength, it is anodized to prevent
corrosion, like painting steel. It adds nothing to strength.

Actually, I've always assumed it did add strength just from my personal
experience with aluminum cookware. I have a Calphalon omelet pan. I hate it
because the damn eggs always stick to it. But it's clear to me that it's far
harder than the aluminum sauce pans I have. It never scratches where the
other ones do.

So I did a quick google search and found a bunch of references attesting to
the increased density and hardness of anodized aluminum.

I apologize for belaboring the point, but here are just two of a boatload of
references:

"Anodizing is a process which thickens the natural oxide film resulting in a
heavy aluminum oxide film of controlled thickness having the hardness
similar to that of a ruby or sapphire."

from
http://www.aacoa.com/anodizing/how.htm

and

Why Anodize?

High Corrosion Resistance
Decorative / Cosmetic Appearance
Insulator / Nonconductive
Stain Resistance
Increased Durability / Scratch Resistance

from
http://www.alphametal.com/anodizing.htm

 

[jim evans]

The Lian Li PC-71 USB is a monster full tower. Very cool, very pricey. But
I'm leaning heavily towards it for two reasons. First, it has a 15 drive
capacity. Second, excellent cooling due to its aluminum construction. I also
like the fact that the aluminum is anodized for greater strength, though
this is likely overkill.

http://www.lian-li.com/product.php?action=viewPD&prdid=375

From what I've read Lian Li makes good cases, but about all aluminum
does is make them lighter. Essentially all the cooling is done by
moving air. And, as someone pointed out anodizing is a surface
treatment to prevent the aluminum version of rusting. It doesn't
strengthen the metal.

 

[jim evans]

I did a quick google search and found a bunch of references

attesting to the increased density and hardness of anodized aluminum.

Anodizing hardens the surface increasing scratch resistance, but it
doesn't make the metal structurally stronger. All of your quotes
relate to surface effects.

"Anodizing is a process which thickens the natural oxide film resulting in a
heavy aluminum oxide film of controlled thickness having the hardness
similar to that of a ruby or sapphire."
from
http://www.aacoa.com/anodizing/how.htm

The key word here is "film." It's a surface treatment.

and

Why Anodize?

High Corrosion Resistance
Decorative / Cosmetic Appearance
Insulator / Nonconductive
Stain Resistance
Increased Durability / Scratch Resistance

from
http://www.alphametal.com/anodizing.htm

All these are surface effects.

On thing that may be confusing you is there are difference hardnesses
and strengths of aluminum, similar to the different grades of steel.

 

[Pack Fan]

Anodizing hardens the surface increasing scratch resistance, but it
doesn't make the metal structurally stronger. All of your quotes
relate to surface effects.


The key word here is "film." It's a surface treatment.


All these are surface effects.

On thing that may be confusing you is there are difference hardnesses
and strengths of aluminum, similar to the different grades of steel.

World of the hair splitters here. I said "strength" because that's my
general assessment of one of the effects of anodizing. My observation
remains accurate, but now I have people telling me what I meant by
"strength" so that I can be characterized as "confused".

What's up with that?

 

[Pack Fan]

From what I've read Lian Li makes good cases, but about all aluminum
does is make them lighter. Essentially all the cooling is done by
moving air. And, as someone pointed out anodizing is a surface
treatment to prevent the aluminum version of rusting. It doesn't
strengthen the metal.

Okay, now I see why you were hairsplitting. I read your later post before
this one.

 

[jim evans]

World of the hair splitters here. I said "strength" because that's my
general assessment of one of the effects of anodizing. My observation
remains accurate, but now I have people telling me what I meant by
"strength" so that I can be characterized as "confused".

What's up with that?

OK. We'll leave it that you define scratch resistance as strength.

 

[Roger M]

From what I've read Lian Li makes good cases, but about all aluminum
does is make them lighter. Essentially all the cooling is done by
moving air. And, as someone pointed out anodizing is a surface
treatment to prevent the aluminum version of rusting. It doesn't
strengthen the metal.

Aluminum doesn't *rust* either.

 

[Pack Fan]

OK. We'll leave it that you define scratch resistance as strength.

And you to define "heavy aluminum oxide film of controlled thickness having
the hardness
similar to that of a ruby or sapphire" as NOT strength.