Publishing Problems with Win XP and FP 2002 on a school network

[LPS Webmaster]

I have a user with Win XP Pro and FP 2002 that is trying
to publish their web site to the server and is having a
devil of a time. We are a school and have a Windows 2000
server network with FPSE 2002 installed. When we publish
with FP 2000 on a 98 machine we use the following http
addresses:

http://www.linwoodschools.org/usersfoldername
Then user name and password.

On FP 2002 in Win XP Pro, we do the same thing but the log
in box comes up again and it adds the domain to the users
name.

For example : linwoodschools.org\username.
It will not allow us to publish and I am stuck. Any
ideas? Our teachers are clammering for an answer.

LPS Webmaster

 

[Guest]

I am encountering the same exact problem, but mine happens when I switched to a 2003 server. The weird thing is that when I access it from work using Windows 2000, it works. But at home with XP home edition it doesn't. I enter the username and password and it pops the box back up with the domain inserted before the username. I am using FP 2002 SP2 in both places. This is driving me flipping crazy!!

Someone out there has got to know what's going on here. PLEASE help. Thank you

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

If the Windows 2003 Server is set as a domain controller, then you can not
connect via Windows XP Home.

See:
http://www25.brinkster.com/ChicagoTech/winxphome.htm
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I am encountering the same exact problem, but mine happens when I switched

to a 2003 server. The weird thing is that when I access it from work using
Windows 2000, it works. But at home with XP home edition it doesn't. I
enter the username and password and it pops the box back up with the domain
inserted before the username. I am using FP 2002 SP2 in both places. This
is driving me flipping crazy!!!

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

If the Windows 2003 Server is set as a domain controller, then you can not
connect via Windows XP Home.

See:
http://www25.brinkster.com/ChicagoTech/winxphome.htm

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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I am encountering the same exact problem, but mine happens when I switched

to a 2003 server. The weird thing is that when I access it from work using
Windows 2000, it works. But at home with XP home edition it doesn't. I
enter the username and password and it pops the box back up with the domain
inserted before the username. I am using FP 2002 SP2 in both places. This
is driving me flipping crazy!!!

 

[Guest]

Thomas,

Thanks for your response. I kinda see what you're talking about, but it seems rediculous. I mean, how many people have Windows XP Home Edition or in LPS Webmaster's case Pro? And how many of those people are gonna try to make a Web site on a Windows Server using FrontPage? Wouldn't it make sense that they should all work together? I know you didn't create all the software, but if what you are saying is true, why on earth would anyone buy FrontPage if they own XP?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

I run Windows XP home and connect locally to Windows 2003 server and publish
to both Windows 2000 and 2003 servers remotely.

The issue arises only if the Windows server is set up as a Domain
Controller, in which case you have to use Windows XP Pro.

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
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Thomas,

Thanks for your response. I kinda see what you're talking about, but it

seems rediculous. I mean, how many people have Windows XP Home Edition or
in LPS Webmaster's case Pro? And how many of those people are gonna try to
make a Web site on a Windows Server using FrontPage? Wouldn't it make sense
that they should all work together? I know you didn't create all the
software, but if what you are saying is true, why on earth would anyone buy
FrontPage if they own XP?

 

[Guest]

Well, I checked with my host (Ipowerweb) and they claim that the servers are not acting as a domain controller. So I guess it's back to square one.

 

[Steve Easton]

Try it with just the domain for the user name and then the password.


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I am encountering the same exact problem, but mine happens when I switched

to a 2003 server. The weird thing is that when I access it from work using
Windows 2000, it works. But at home with XP home edition it doesn't. I
enter the username and password and it pops the box back up with the domain
inserted before the username. I am using FP 2002 SP2 in both places. This
is driving me flipping crazy!!!

 

[Jack Brewster]

Thomas,

My understanding is that the limitation on XP Home is that the machine can't
be a domain member, but that doesn't preclude someone from accessing network
resources if they have domain credentials (i.e. an account on the server).

I'm certain that if you have a Windows 98 client, and you try to access a
network share, as long as you enter the correct credentials (either
domain\username or machine\username) you should be able to connect.
Technically, you could even connect to a network resource using Linux or
Apple assuming the computer was configured to access NTFS protected
resources.

The only reference to domain networks in that link you provides says:
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How can I use XP Home to access a domain network

WinXP HE can be included in a workgroup network, but not under a domain
controller. However, you can logon XP Home locally and access the resources
in a domain network (just like win9x). You do need to create a user account
on the domain controller for logon and accessing the resources.
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I can't see the original post, just Chris' "me too" which started this new
thread. I may not have a full understanding of the problem, so the
following answer may not be applicable.

Chris,

When you're prompted with the domain\username, is that a valid domain
account? If not, can you add the accout to the domain and then give that
account NTFS permissions to the folder that the FrontPage web is stored in
on the server?

Or is there a local account on that server? If it's a local account (not a
domain account) try entering "machinename\username" (where machinename is
the name of the server). Again, the account must have NTFS permissions to
the FrontPage website's folder.

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Jack,

I agree this is a strange, however keep in mind that when you connect to a
web server, you are not connecting to a network share, you are just
connecting to an IP address that is associated with a specific folder
containing the web site that is under the web server's control.

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FrontPage Resources, WebCircle,
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[Jack Brewster]

Thomas,

Agreed, however a Win NT/2000/2003/XP webserver still uses either local or
domain accounts at the NTFS level to control access.

 

[Guest]

Jack

I saw that you may not have seen the original post. The issue is only a problem from my home. When I log in at Work on Windows 2000 with FP 2002 SP2 it actually gives me three boxes... username, password, and domain I believe. But when I log in at home on XP Home Ed. with FP 2002 SP2, it only gives me a username and password box. When I type in my username and password for the first time it takes a while longer and then it bounces back to the login box and inserts my entire domain infront of my password like: www.mydomain.com\chris. Then, if I submit that, it gives me the `ol folder isn't accessible, bad pass etc. error. I have also tried setting up a new network connection in windows and it won't allow that either. However, it will allow me to connect via ftp. I had the server extensions removed and reinstalled, but that didn't seem to help either.

I am thinking about having my account deleted and then reinstalled, but have read that some people with similar problems tried that to no avail. I'm just lost on what to do. I'd be more than happy to provide you Jack or Thomas my account info if you want to try it for yourself. E-mail me at cjm at wi-net dot com. Thanks for your help guys and any thoughts

Chris

 

[Guest]

I meant to say that it inserts my domain name in front of my username NOT password. Sorry about that.

 

[Jack Brewster]

Chris,

There are two ways that accounts can be created in a domain. Domain
accounts, which all the domain computers can refer to, and machine accounts
which are only relevant to the machine that the account is on.

Domain names read right to left. This means that if your web server name is
www.example.com, the domain is example.com. The "www" refers to a resource
at the domain, which doesn't always have to be www or even a web server.

When you provide your credentials in this format:
www.example.com\chris
password

you are telling the computer receiving your request (the www server) to look
for a local machine account named "chris" and authenticate it. This will
fail because you don't have a local account. Rather, your domain account
has access to resources on the web server.

What you need to do is pass your domain credentials which should be in the
format:
example.com\chris
password

Note that the "www" is missing. When the server receives this request, it
should try to authenticate you to the domain, not the local machine.

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Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP

Jack,

I saw that you may not have seen the original post. The issue is only a

problem from my home. When I log in at Work on Windows 2000 with FP 2002
SP2 it actually gives me three boxes... username, password, and domain I
believe. But when I log in at home on XP Home Ed. with FP 2002 SP2, it only
gives me a username and password box. When I type in my username and
password for the first time it takes a while longer and then it bounces back
to the login box and inserts my entire domain infront of my password like:
www.mydomain.com\chris. Then, if I submit that, it gives me the `ol folder
isn't accessible, bad pass etc. error. I have also tried setting up a new
network connection in windows and it won't allow that either. However, it
will allow me to connect via ftp. I had the server extensions removed and
reinstalled, but that didn't seem to help either.

I am thinking about having my account deleted and then reinstalled, but

have read that some people with similar problems tried that to no avail.
I'm just lost on what to do. I'd be more than happy to provide you Jack or
Thomas my account info if you want to try it for yourself. E-mail me at cjm
at wi-net dot com. Thanks for your help guys and any thoughts.

 

[Guest]

Jack

I didn't mean to leave you hanging. I quickly got home last night very eager to try your suggestion. Unfortunately it did not work. However, I think I am starting to focus in on my problem. I think it is local with this machine. For some reason, I do not think it is getting to the correct server or account or it is using some old authentication information. What's very weird, is that I can log into my control panel (located on a different server) that my host provides, but when I want to view the stats (located on my server), it asks for my username and password, just like in FrontPage, it does not work. It bounces back the box again with domain.com\username in the username box. And that's with using Internet Explorer! I am trying to figure out how to erase the old authentication or server information. There must be something on my system that is trying to authenticate using info from my old host. Is that possible? Any thoughts??? How about I flip the switch on the back to 220 volts? Then stick some M-80's inside the cd drive

Chri

 

[Jack Brewster]

Jack,

I didn't mean to leave you hanging.

And here I've been pacing about my office all night worrying.

I quickly got home last night very eager to try your suggestion. Unfortunately it
did not work. However, I think I am starting to focus in on my problem. I think
it is local with this machine. For some reason, I do not think it is getting to the
correct server or account or it is using some old authentication information.
What's very weird, is that I can log into my control panel (located on a different
server) that my host provides, but when I want to view the stats (located on my
server), it asks for my username and password, just like in FrontPage, it does
not work. It bounces back the box again with domain.com\username in the
username box. And that's with using Internet Explorer! I am trying to figure
out how to erase the old authentication or server information. There must be
something on my system that is trying to authenticate using info from my old host.
Is that possible? Any thoughts???

Yes, this is quite possible. I know I ran into some wierd problems similar
to what you're seeing, but I didn't have anything remotely similar to your
configuration.

Eventually, the fix for me was to make sure I deleted the website reference
under "My Network Places." I don't know if that's even available with XP
Home, though. If it is, delete all of them. They'll be recreated the next
time you login.

How about I flip the switch on the back to 220 volts? Then stick some
M-80's inside the cd drive?

Sure, but be sure to back up your registry, first.

 

[Guest]

Well, I sorta figured it out. It's working now. I went to Options, Proxy Settings, Security, Internet Zone, Custon, and screwed around with things a bit. I reset my settings and it seems to work now. Something must have been messed up there. Go figure. Just thought I'd let everyone know in case someone else runs into this issue. Later and Happy Friday!