Problems with Internet / Netgear router on SBS 2003

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Alan Dods

I am having a lot of trouble configuring a Netgear DG834 on Microsoft
Windows 2003 Small Business Server. We recently converted a small P2P
Win2K/WinXP network to a server based network by adding a server
running Win 2003 SBS Standard. First part went OK but then found that
Speedtouch USB, although it would connect to ADSL on the server could
not be configured to provide access to all PCs. Bit the bullet and
bought the Netgear DG834 and a second NIC for the server.

Problems started. Could not login in to DG834 from Win 2003 machine
using IE. Either got "the page cannot be displayed" or "loading
file..." but nothing else. Eventually managed to get into DG834 on
another machine running WinXP. Configured it there and got connection
working. Turned off DHCP becaue I want Server to do it. Put DG834
back onto server. Everything working - internet access from all
machines. Only server connected to DG834. Rest of PCs connected via
Netgear switch.

1st NIC (LAN) on 192.168.0.3. Other PC's getting IP Addresses in
192.168.0.. range.

2nd NIC (connected to Router) on 192.168.0.33. Router left at default
192.168.0.1

Everything worked well for 12 hours but next morning had stopped. No
internet access. No response to pings of 192.168.0.1 (host
unreachable). Put router back onto XP machine but no longer able to
load config. Tried reboot - no change.

Have brought router home and tried it on my XP machine (only 1 NIC).
Seems to work fine. I have established that with DHCP in the router
off, I can access config and get internet access, provided I make sure
that router IP address is in same subnet as manually configured NIC
address, and default gateway on NIC is set to router IP address. I
can reproduce the work problem by setting the NIC address to a
different subnet from the router (e.g. 192.168.10.1) - then I can't
ping router or open config on 192.168.0.1.

The trouble is, I had it set at work in the way that works at home,
(except that there were 2 NICs) but it didn't work.

I suspect that the problems at work are due to confusion over where to
look for 192.168.0.1 and default gateway problems. I think I need an
idiot's guide.

With 2 NIC's in the server and the DG834 left at 192.168.0.1, with
DHCP switched off, what should I se the IP addresses of the two NIC's
to? I believe I am supposed to set the default gateway on the NIC
that is connected to the router. Is that right? Is it right that
both NIC's and the router should all be on the same subnet?

Any ideas why the config screen won't open on the server? I might try
with Firefox in case it is some oddity of the IE version on SBS 2003.

Originally I configured everything on the server and the clients using
the SBS wizards and the connection manager and that all seemed to work
fine. That was when I only had one NIC in there though, ans since
adding the second NIC I've had to interfere manually a lot more.

Any help or advice much appreciated.

Thanks
Alan
 
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Robert L [MS-MVP]

you should net setup two NICs using the same IP range. For more and other information, go to http://howtonetworking.com.

Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services. Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more help.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
How to Setup Windows, Network, Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.
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I am having a lot of trouble configuring a Netgear DG834 on Microsoft
Windows 2003 Small Business Server. We recently converted a small P2P
Win2K/WinXP network to a server based network by adding a server
running Win 2003 SBS Standard. First part went OK but then found that
Speedtouch USB, although it would connect to ADSL on the server could
not be configured to provide access to all PCs. Bit the bullet and
bought the Netgear DG834 and a second NIC for the server.

Problems started. Could not login in to DG834 from Win 2003 machine
using IE. Either got "the page cannot be displayed" or "loading
file..." but nothing else. Eventually managed to get into DG834 on
another machine running WinXP. Configured it there and got connection
working. Turned off DHCP becaue I want Server to do it. Put DG834
back onto server. Everything working - internet access from all
machines. Only server connected to DG834. Rest of PCs connected via
Netgear switch.

1st NIC (LAN) on 192.168.0.3. Other PC's getting IP Addresses in
192.168.0.. range.

2nd NIC (connected to Router) on 192.168.0.33. Router left at default
192.168.0.1

Everything worked well for 12 hours but next morning had stopped. No
internet access. No response to pings of 192.168.0.1 (host
unreachable). Put router back onto XP machine but no longer able to
load config. Tried reboot - no change.

Have brought router home and tried it on my XP machine (only 1 NIC).
Seems to work fine. I have established that with DHCP in the router
off, I can access config and get internet access, provided I make sure
that router IP address is in same subnet as manually configured NIC
address, and default gateway on NIC is set to router IP address. I
can reproduce the work problem by setting the NIC address to a
different subnet from the router (e.g. 192.168.10.1) - then I can't
ping router or open config on 192.168.0.1.

The trouble is, I had it set at work in the way that works at home,
(except that there were 2 NICs) but it didn't work.

I suspect that the problems at work are due to confusion over where to
look for 192.168.0.1 and default gateway problems. I think I need an
idiot's guide.

With 2 NIC's in the server and the DG834 left at 192.168.0.1, with
DHCP switched off, what should I se the IP addresses of the two NIC's
to? I believe I am supposed to set the default gateway on the NIC
that is connected to the router. Is that right? Is it right that
both NIC's and the router should all be on the same subnet?

Any ideas why the config screen won't open on the server? I might try
with Firefox in case it is some oddity of the IE version on SBS 2003.

Originally I configured everything on the server and the clients using
the SBS wizards and the connection manager and that all seemed to work
fine. That was when I only had one NIC in there though, ans since
adding the second NIC I've had to interfere manually a lot more.

Any help or advice much appreciated.

Thanks
Alan
 
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lee turbitt

had the same problem accessing the router, just came up loading file...
resolved this by going into internet settings trusted sites and adding url
of router to trusted site list. netgear settings page then displayed ok
 

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