Problem with XP + SP2 - Just 3 days BACK.

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Prabhat

Hi Jon,

Thanks for the suggestion. Any how I have downloded the UPH Clean Service
from Microsoft Site. I have Installed that in Test PC and Seen that One New
Service is geting Loded SET TO "Automatic". I will test that Today In My PC.

ANd I have Disabled Many Services as per your List and Some More from the
Site: http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm . Now My PC display
Boot screen in 1 min 10sec. But I think that is also Slow enough. If you
want I will send you the Startup LOG, so that you can Verify.

I am Still searching what is the reason? (Because earlier I had Same XP with
SP2 But working Fine - In Just 40 - 45 Sec Max.). That Is My Prob.

Thanks
Prabhat
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

You've got nerve posting an executable to a public newsgroup.

<plonk>
| Sounds like your services are probably optimised pretty well.
|
|
| As a quick test try the following......
| Start > run > msconfig > startup > "Disable all"
| (still within msconfig) > services > Check "Hide all Microsoft
| Services" > Disable all
| ok out
| Time the boot up to the login menu. Should be about 30 seconds or so with
| your configuration.
| (Go back into msconfig to reenable them all after)
| If it's a rapid boot then it will show that one of your 3rd party programs
| is the problem.
|
|
| Try running the attached program Startuplist (generates a file in notepad)
| and paste its results in here, (or send me the generated log via email,
if
| you prefer / feel it's particularly sensitive info (the "reply to" address
| in my header is genuine)). This is helpful in gaining a more comprehensive
| list of startup programs.
|
| Another thought....
| Have you recently installed a newer version of Zone Alarm? If so try using
| the previous version.
|
|
| Jon
|
|
| | > Hi Jon,
| >
| > Thanks for the suggestion. Any how I have downloded the UPH Clean
Service
| > from Microsoft Site. I have Installed that in Test PC and Seen that One
| > New
| > Service is geting Loded SET TO "Automatic". I will test that Today In My
| > PC.
| >
| > ANd I have Disabled Many Services as per your List and Some More from
the
| > Site: http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm . Now My PC display
| > Boot screen in 1 min 10sec. But I think that is also Slow enough. If you
| > want I will send you the Startup LOG, so that you can Verify.
| >
| > I am Still searching what is the reason? (Because earlier I had Same XP
| > with
| > SP2 But working Fine - In Just 40 - 45 Sec Max.). That Is My Prob.
| >
| > Thanks
| > Prabhat
| >
| > | >> The "readme.txt" file on the link I gave gives a good explanation of
the
| >> problem.
| >>
| >> No don't think it's caused by disabling any services.
| >>
| >>
| >> Seen that warning appear with fresh SP2 installations.
| >>
| >> *Possibly* related to the svchost.exe group containing
| >>
| >> DCom Server Process Launcher (DComLaunch)
| >> Terminal Services (TermService)
| >>
| >> not closing down properly on shutdown with SP2. Others are probably
| > better
| >> able to comment on that though. The UphClean service sorts it out well.
| >>
| >> As regards your original problem, did you see any significant reduction
| >> in
| >> boot up time after disabling / setting to manual the services I
| >> mentioned?
| >>
| >> Jon
| >>
| >>
| >> | >> > Hi Jon,
| >> >
| >> > But what exactly the Problem which is Causing that Warning?
| >> >
| >> > Did any service that is Stoped or Set to Manual is Making that
Problem?
| >> >
| >> > Thanks
| >> > Prabhat
| >> >
| >> > | >> >> You can install the UphClean Service service to solve that
particular
| >> >> problem. More of a shutdown problem than a boot up one though.
| >> >>
| >> >> Available here
| >> >>
| >> >> http://tinyurl.com/2h3yl
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >> Jon
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
|
 
R

Rock

Prabhat said:
Hi Jon,

Thanks for the suggestion. Any how I have downloded the UPH Clean Service
from Microsoft Site. I have Installed that in Test PC and Seen that One New
Service is geting Loded SET TO "Automatic". I will test that Today In My PC.

ANd I have Disabled Many Services as per your List and Some More from the
Site: http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm . Now My PC display
Boot screen in 1 min 10sec. But I think that is also Slow enough. If you
want I will send you the Startup LOG, so that you can Verify.

I am Still searching what is the reason? (Because earlier I had Same XP with
SP2 But working Fine - In Just 40 - 45 Sec Max.). That Is My Prob.

Thanks
Prabhat

That issue has existed in XP since it's inception, hence the clean up
utility from MS. Why it happens I can't tell you, but it happens
occasionally in my system both SP1 and now SP2. It doesn't occur on
every logoff.
 
P

Prabhat

Hi Rock,

Yes you are right. That is corect in the PC of my Office.

In My PC at home, That occur only when I "Log OFF".
While Restarting or Shuting down or Standby That does not happen.

I Have Downloded the UPH Clean Service from MS, and will Try that.

Thanks
Prabhat
 
P

Prabhat

Hi Jon,

Thanks for the suggestion.

I will do that steps and let you know thye times, and also will Run the
Utility and send you the Startup List to you email tonight.

Below is the Part of the list of Startup LOG:
==============================================================
-- Registry --
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

No Items Found

-- Registry --
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

NAV Agent C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\navapw32.exe
NeroFilterCheck C:\WINDOWS\system32\NeroCheck.exe
Zone Labs Client "C:\Program Files\Zone
Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe"

-- Registry --
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

No Items Found

-- Start Menu - Current User --
No Items Found

-- Start Menu - All Users --
No Items Found

-- Disabled Items --
No Items Found

-- Registry - Shell Value - HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon --
Explorer.exe
=======================================================================
I will send you the output of the startuplist from the exe that you send to
your email.

Reg the ZoneAlarm::

I have ZoneAlarm Pro Ver: 5.1.011.000. Installed in my PC.
But today I thought to Update that to ZoneAlarm Pro 5.1.033.000 As the
Update is Available. (This Update of Zonelab says:: "Improved Performance"
and "Increased Stability ". So I will Try that also. What is your
Suggestion? Should I Go Backward or This New Ver?

Thanks
Prabhat
 
J

Jon

Hi Prabhat

Only thing of any note in that log extract is the entry relating to Nero (ie
NeroCheck.exe). Whether you need that starting up on every boot is up to
you. Could try disabling it, eg via msconfig, to see if that reduces your
bootup time by any significant amount, and enabling it when you require it.

Don't actually use Zone Alarm, but I noticed with the Sygate Firewall, that
I use, that build 5.5.2516 seems to work better than the newer version
5.5.2710 with SP2. So it's possible that the newer version of Zone Alarm
might improve things for you. Certainly worth a try. Others who use Zone
Alarm might want to chip in on that though.

Will look at the log file you send, if I get a chance over the weekend, or
early next week, if not.


Jon
 
P

Prabhat

Hi Jon,

I will check with that NeroCheck.exe. and let you know. Also will send you
the Log.

Thanks
Prabhat
 
J

Jon

Hi Prabhat

Got your logs. Looks pretty clean.

Seems like you have the following services all on auto, some of which you
might consider disabling. Check with the websites, previously given, to see
which ones you definitely need. [Change via Control Panel > Adminstrative
Tools > Services]

DHCP CLIENT
DNS CLIENT
NETWORK LOCATION AWARENESS (NLA)
IPSEC SERVICES
SECURITY CENTER
TCP/IP NETBIOS HELPER
WIRELESS ZERO CONFIGURATION

Could also consider setting to manual ....

LOGICAL DISK MANAGER

Best to read the links supplied previously and check with what you use.

Jon
 
P

Prabhat

Hi Jon,

Thanks for analysing the things and your Suggestions.
I will look into the services and see how I can manage them.

Thanks
Prabhat

Jon said:
Hi Prabhat

Got your logs. Looks pretty clean.

Seems like you have the following services all on auto, some of which you
might consider disabling. Check with the websites, previously given, to see
which ones you definitely need. [Change via Control Panel > Adminstrative
Tools > Services]

DHCP CLIENT
DNS CLIENT
NETWORK LOCATION AWARENESS (NLA)
IPSEC SERVICES
SECURITY CENTER
TCP/IP NETBIOS HELPER
WIRELESS ZERO CONFIGURATION

Could also consider setting to manual ....

LOGICAL DISK MANAGER

Best to read the links supplied previously and check with what you use.

Jon



Prabhat said:
Hi Jon,

I will check with that NeroCheck.exe. and let you know. Also will send you
the Log.

Thanks
Prabhat

Nero
(ie that
One Same
XP
 
P

Prabhat

Hi All,

I have Simply formated My C: drive with NTFS and Clean Installed XP + SP1
Slipstreamed. Now My PC is Very FAST. It Boot in Just 10-12 Sec.

I think That was the SP2 which Made my System behave like that and could not
solved even after I have did all the Suggeastions Given by every one.

Now I am Happy without SP2.

Thanks
Prabhat
 
U

Unknown

Your problem is with Zone Alarm firewall. Delete Zone Alarm and install SP2
without it. You'll be amazed.
 
P

Prabhat

Hi David,

My PC is:

Nvidia Chipset Motherboard Running in 400 MHZ FSB
AMD 2500+ Athelon CPU Runnning 333 MHZ FSB
256 MB RAM - Running 333 MHZ FSB
80 GB HDD (C: is 16 GB NTFS - XP Boot Drive)

This Takes around 10-15 Sec Max to Display the Login Dialog. (The Progress
BAR in Boot Screen MOve Only 3 Times).

Thanks
Prabhat
 
P

Prabhat

Hi,

But what is there in ZoneAlarm with SP2?

After I have Installed SP2 I have Disabled the Winndows FireWall. I have
ZoneAlarm (5.1.003 - The Latest)

Thanks
Prabhat
 
G

Guest

Hi Prabhat

Download Microsoft Bootvis Tool which is very helpful to see exactly what is
going on during the boot time. Using winXP with SP1 is not solution. I use
win XP with SP2 and it boots for 14 seconds with 21 programs instaled on.

Daniel
 
P

Prabhat

Hi Duncho,

I have used the Bootvis TOO. That U can finf in this Thread.

That did not Helped. Now I think I can have one more Try by Disabling the
DEP.

Thanks
Prabhat
 

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