Problem delegating a subdomain


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Edward Nino

I need to delegate management of part of our DNS namespace to another
department in our organization, very similar to the example in
the follwoing 'Delegating Zones' link:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/server/help/default.asp?
url=/windows2000/en/server/help/sag_DNS_imp_DelegatingZones.htm

Using the names in this example, I need to a create a new zone for the
subdomain 'us.example.microsoft.com' with the authoritative
DNS server for the new subdomain named 'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com'. I
have run the New Delegation wizard on the 'example.microsoft.com'
subdomain to create the 'us.example.microsoft.com' subdomain. Then I added
the 'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com' DNS server to the
'ns1.microsoft.com' DNS server's zone's properties. I am unable to create
the A RR for 'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com' in the 'microsoft.com' zone
as stated in the article (glue chasing). I cannot add 'ns1.us.example' to
the 'microsoft.com' zone. It will not accept any periods. Can someone
please help? My DNS server runs Windows 2000 AS and is on our external
network and it is the authoritative server for our Internet domain. Thank
you.

Edward
 
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Herb Martin

Edward Nino said:
I need to delegate management of part of our DNS namespace to another
department in our organization, very similar to the example in
the follwoing 'Delegating Zones' link:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/server/help/default.asp?
url=/windows2000/en/server/help/sag_DNS_imp_DelegatingZones.htm

Using the names in this example, I need to a create a new zone for the
subdomain 'us.example.microsoft.com' with the authoritative
DNS server for the new subdomain named 'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com'. I
have run the New Delegation wizard on the 'example.microsoft.com'
subdomain to create the 'us.example.microsoft.com' subdomain. Then I added
the 'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com' DNS server to the
'ns1.microsoft.com' DNS server's zone's properties.

Whoa! When you run the wizard, you must supply the FIRST DNS
server for that zone (just to perform the delegation) so you get at
least two records to start:

the SOA, and the first NS record

If the NS record specifies a name WITHIN that NEW zone you must also
add the address for the A record.

Did you add the NS1 using the Wizard?
I am unable to create
the A RR for 'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com' in the 'microsoft.com' zone
as stated in the article (glue chasing). I cannot add 'ns1.us.example' to
the 'microsoft.com' zone.
It will not accept any periods. Can someone
please help?

Try adding "subdomains" -- subdomains are different from zones
or delegated zones in that they just provide one element of such
"dotted" names WITHIN the parent zone.

If this works it is just an artifact of the way the GUI works.
 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]

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Edward Nino said:
I need to delegate management of part of our DNS namespace to another
department in our organization, very similar to the example in
the follwoing 'Delegating Zones' link:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/server/help/default.asp?
url=/windows2000/en/server/help/sag_DNS_imp_DelegatingZones.htm

Using the names in this example, I need to a create a new zone for the
subdomain 'us.example.microsoft.com' with the authoritative
DNS server for the new subdomain named
'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com'. I have run the New Delegation wizard
on the 'example.microsoft.com' subdomain to create the
'us.example.microsoft.com' subdomain. Then I added the
'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com' DNS server to the 'ns1.microsoft.com'
DNS server's zone's properties. I am unable to create the A RR for
'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com' in the 'microsoft.com' zone as stated
in the article (glue chasing). I cannot add 'ns1.us.example' to the
'microsoft.com' zone. It will not accept any periods. Can someone
please help? My DNS server runs Windows 2000 AS and is on our
external network and it is the authoritative server for our Internet
domain. Thank you.

Edward


Try this article. It's a little more straight forward then the other one.
Just disregard the AD part if that is not what you're looking for. But
everything else applies.

255248 - HOW TO Create a Child Domain in Active Directory and Delegate the
DNS Namespace to the Child Domain:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=255248


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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

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Edward Nino

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Try this article. It's a little more straight forward then the other
one. Just disregard the AD part if that is not what you're looking
for. But everything else applies.

255248 - HOW TO Create a Child Domain in Active Directory and Delegate
the DNS Namespace to the Child Domain:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=255248
Thanks for the reply. Looking at my DNS configuration what I have is one
forward lookup zone (microsoft.com) with the subdomain
(example.microsoft.com). I was then trying to create (delegate) a domain
under that (us.example.microsoft.com) and that is where I have trouble
adding the A RR for 'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com'. The
'example.microsoft.com' subdomain has no DNS server so the parent DNS
server is the root domain 'microsoft.com'. Is it possible to delegate
'us.example.microsoft.com' subdomain with 'microsoft.com' as the parent? Or
do I need to create a new forward lookup zone (us.example.microsoft.com)? I
hope my question makes sense. Thanks again.

Edward
 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]

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Edward Nino said:
Thanks for the reply. Looking at my DNS configuration what I have is
one forward lookup zone (microsoft.com) with the subdomain
(example.microsoft.com). I was then trying to create (delegate) a
domain under that (us.example.microsoft.com) and that is where I have
trouble adding the A RR for 'ns1.us.example.microsoft.com'. The
'example.microsoft.com' subdomain has no DNS server so the parent DNS
server is the root domain 'microsoft.com'. Is it possible to delegate
'us.example.microsoft.com' subdomain with 'microsoft.com' as the
parent? Or do I need to create a new forward lookup zone
(us.example.microsoft.com)? I hope my question makes sense. Thanks
again.

Edward

I think I see what's going on. You;'re saying there is NO DNS server for the
child domain called 'example'? If so, there's no delegation necessary, and
the 'example' child domain becomes just that, a child domain under the
'microsoft.com' parent zone. Make sense?

Delegation is used when you are telling another DNS server: "You will take
care of this portion of the zone". If example is the child name, then you're
telling that OTHER DNS server, 'hey, you're going to take care of
'example.microsoft.com', but I will continue to take care of
'microsoft.com'. Make sense? So if there is not other DNS server, then
delegation is not required and won't work anyway.

Hope I understood what you;re trying to tell me.




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Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and confers no
rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a
pig. --
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