Poor or no Video Performance

[Searcher7]

(e-mail address removed)2.com wrote: > BTW. I just came acorss this page: http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/drivers.jsp > > And after selecting "IntegratedGraphics" a few drivers were displayed for download. Using trial and errorshould I be trying those? > > Thanks. > > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. > If you try the menus, you may find something like "CLE266 Unichrome" in the list. So the trial and error might be just one download at the library.

I'm not sure what you're saying.

"CLE266 Unichrome" is the first in the list that comes up of 28 different Integrated Graphics drivers.

It's easy to download any of them at the library.(I downloaded about ten rendomly).

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

I just wanted to know if I should risk trying them to see what happens.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New Yrok.

 

[Paul]

I'm not sure what you're saying.

"CLE266 Unichrome" is the first in the list that comes up of 28 different Integrated Graphics drivers.

It's easy to download any of them at the library.(I downloaded about ten rendomly).

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

I just wanted to know if I should risk trying them to see what happens.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New Yrok.

If you want to determine if a driver is "worthwhile" to test install,
look at the INF file. The VEN and DEV values, stored on one
or more lines in the INF, is a way of stating what the particular
driver supports. I would use 7ZIP, and do a little extracting to
get at the INF files and have a look that way.

You'll need a tool to get VEN and DEV. You can use the Everest Free
Edition in Windows. Linux has "lspci" as a way to get the VEN and DEV
of each major hardware subsystem.

If a tool you use has VEN and DEV, and you want to map that to
English, you can use a list like this. You'll find quite a few
instances of Unichrome in here, which would be a graphics GPU
built into the chipset. This list is unofficial and is not
complete, because the real list is kept by USB.org and is
secret, to allow new product introduction without premature
release of information to competitors. This list is maintained
by volunteer contributors.

http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids

Using the download menu on that VIA page, you can try the "most likely"
driver first. That'll mean fewer trips to the library. If the library
computer had 7ZIP, you could inspect the driver installer for INFs, before
you leave the library. Take note of your VEN/DEV info before you leave home.

For example, if I use Everest...

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

This is the info for my video card. VEN=10DE DEV=0291

Field Value
----- -----
Hardware ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0291&SUBSYS_21DB19F1&REV_A1

In the pci.ids, the translation gives...

10de NVIDIA Corporation
0291 G71 [GeForce 7900 GT/GTO]

I could go to NVidia and look for a driver for 7900GT. Then,
check the INF file to see if 10de and 0291 are in there or not.
That's how I could determine the driver supports that hardware.

Note that not all installers are friendly. Some make
it hard to extract the contents and do forensic work
before installation. So don't be surprised if my
instructions above are hard to follow. There are
at least 20 to 30 different "packers" out there,
things like InstallShield to prevent examination of
software, and it isn't exactly easy to bust all of
them open. I only have the tools to do the simplest
of cases.

Paul

 

[Flasherly]

A gig of ram is OK. 1G processor is not. Not if it's going to be top
notch for mid- to mid/high-tier vid-encodes + audio-processing. (High-
def formats can require more machine support). Took me from a maxed
single to dual cores to get it right for what I wanted (separately
modulated processing to congruent video and high-end, commercial-grade
normalized sound). Basically, it's evolved from the complete codec
packs, all-in-one solutions such as ACE Mega CodecS, to a single-video
rendering program's engine. People, rather some camps, don't want or
need their systems loaded with every video codec out a trashcan
collection. Better to stick to resolving discrete issues with a
single codec, apart from what is not already addressed by a player.
Also the player needs to be assessed for user needs. Because it's
video, many presumptions may follow over wider discrepancies now
permitted -- common to streaming capacities over varying networked
connections, in as many formats provided by inet-based alternatives to
cable or aired programming -- as opposed to a "set top, what you get
is what you'll watch" perspective. One solution ought fit all
needs...simply.

Coupling Adobe (TM) embedded Flash Video formats to several players
oriented towards a latitude "generic encodes" encompass, I wouldn't
readily assume to classify in the latter sense.

Perhaps best focus is maintained on the encode format, first
addressing a workable codec if so configured for an addition to
compounding more generic player abilities you've cited. Bearing in
mind, quality wise, at 1Ghz core processing results can be expected to
be curtailed, as you're experiencing, with jumps and regular anomalous
artifices, effectively rendering unwatchable a mean of quality
expectation and distributions.

In time in working with encodes, classifying them for how players
react, both for player limitations and machine limitations, will be
more apparent. A field with concerns and ties formerly allied largely
in broadcast engineering for more an embodiment of the specialist's
familiarity.

But, no need to sign up, as you may also find them now on
DOOM9.net. ...least they were there last I looked.

 

[Searcher7]

I have no idea wha VEN or DEV are and trying to figure it out really isn't necessary, because like I said downloading all 28 drivers is easier and faster.(It only took me 5 minutes to download a dozen of them to my flash drive).

Also the hardware I have is maxed out as far as the maximum amount of ram and also the fastest processor the mobo will take. It's extremely agitating that they are making videos more difficult to process. (Obviously part of the movement to force consumers into more powerful systems). There was a time when 1Ghz was way more than you needed to watch any video. I'm not talking about high Def or high end rendering.

Anyway, I attempted to install some of those Graphic Interface drivers I downloaded and kept getting a pop-up that said, "Setup was unable to completethe installation. Check the progress log in your Windows directory for more details." (I'm assuming that I was suppposed to find and click the Icon titled "Setup" with "application" under "Type" for any driver).

So I'm thinking that there may not be a graphic driver that will work correctly with this hardware, because I disabled "VIA/S3G Unichrome IGP" under "Display Adaptors" in "Device Manager" and that didn't help at all. (It changed the size and location of my desktop Icons).

Either way I have a folder that I keep some video files in and I still can't get about half of them to play in GOM(which works better than all the other media players). Most are FLV files, but there are about a dozen MP4 files and 3 or 4 of those will crash explorer as soon as I highlight them *before* I can click them open. (I get the "Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to close" pop-up).

The rest of the FLV files that don't work will do nothing but open GOM player(which I presently have associated with most media files becasue it at least partially works), give me a pop-up that says GOM cannot find the codec(even after downloading several codec packs), or at best just play the audioand not the video. The same files that won't play in GOM will not play in Real Player or any other media Player.

For instance, I cannot play any FLV files that I downloaded from Dailymotion, but I can play about half of the FLV files I downloaded from Youtube.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

 

[Paul]

I have no idea wha VEN or DEV are and trying to figure it out really isn't necessary, because like I said downloading all 28 drivers is easier and faster.(It only took me 5 minutes to download a dozen of them to my flash drive).

Also the hardware I have is maxed out as far as the maximum amount of ram and also the fastest processor the mobo will take. It's extremely agitating that they are making videos more difficult to process. (Obviously part of the movement to force consumers into more powerful systems). There was a time when 1Ghz was way more than you needed to watch any video. I'm not talking about high Def or high end rendering.

Anyway, I attempted to install some of those Graphic Interface drivers I downloaded and kept getting a pop-up that said, "Setup was unable to complete the installation. Check the progress log in your Windows directory for more details." (I'm assuming that I was suppposed to find and click the Icon titled "Setup" with "application" under "Type" for any driver).

So I'm thinking that there may not be a graphic driver that will work correctly with this hardware, because I disabled "VIA/S3G Unichrome IGP" under "Display Adaptors" in "Device Manager" and that didn't help at all. (It changed the size and location of my desktop Icons).

Either way I have a folder that I keep some video files in and I still can't get about half of them to play in GOM(which works better than all the other media players). Most are FLV files, but there are about a dozen MP4 files and 3 or 4 of those will crash explorer as soon as I highlight them *before* I can click them open. (I get the "Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to close" pop-up).

The rest of the FLV files that don't work will do nothing but open GOM player(which I presently have associated with most media files becasue it at least partially works), give me a pop-up that says GOM cannot find the codec(even after downloading several codec packs), or at best just play the audio and not the video. The same files that won't play in GOM will not play in Real Player or any other media Player.

For instance, I cannot play any FLV files that I downloaded from Dailymotion, but I can play about half of the FLV files I downloaded from Youtube.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

When windows doesn't have a custom display adapter to play with,
it can use the fallback VESA driver. Maybe that's why you still
have a display, when the S3G Unichrome is disabled.

Paul

 

[Searcher7]

When windows doesn't have a custom display adapter to play with, it can use the fallback VESA driver. Maybe that's why you still have a display, when the S3G Unichrome is disabled. Paul

Yes. You mentioned that last month.

I was trying to convey that no other changes occurred when I disabled it. Changes as far as getting the voices back when I play DVDs or being able to play *all* of the FLV or MP4 files I have without the media player or my system crashing.

I finally got someone's attention over at the Viaarena forums. He said to run DXdiag and then click on display and see if there are any errors. But that is something I already did after you told me to.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.