Help: Building an Mini-ITX PC

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Searcher7

I have a Foxconn RS0338 Mini-ITX case and an EPIA M10000 Mini-ITX
mainboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811153113
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/motherboards/EPIA_M10000

I've only put together ATX PCs before this and I cannot figure out
what hard drive and DVD player I need to get that would fit into this
case.

I can slide a DVD player into the case, but there is no way to secure
it even if there was a way to get a screw driver inside, because none
of the holes line up.

And as for the hard drive, is it plausible to use any laptop hard
drive with an ITX motherboard?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
S

Searcher7

  Have you tried Google?

http://www.directron.com/miniitxguide.html

 Your own link says:

" Inside the case, you’ll have suited space for your mini-ITX
motherboard, a 5.25” external drive, a 3.5” external drive, an
internal 3.5” drive"

 You can use what ever drive will fit. Maybe you might like to use an
SSD.

Al

Yeah I tried Google. And that link is a guide is for a different case
and motherboard.

Also, that quote you posted mentions two "external drives" and one
internal, so I was not sure whether that was a typo and how it
pertains to the internal drives I need. (And I thought a laptop drive
was 2.5").

Lastly, I have no idea what an SSD is.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
S

Searcher7

 Yes that link was for another  board and case.  It is strange that
there is a mention of the "external" drives but it does mention the
2.5 internal and an SSD is just that. A solid state 2.5 drive that
will fit just about anywhere. I was going to search for instances of
your specific board but I was temporarily diverted. There must be
others that have used it successfully if you don't get a reply here.

Try this:

http://robots.net/article/983.html

Yeah I read that already. (But I'm not building a robot).

I don't know where you see mention of a 2.5" drive, but since I know
these to be laptop drives I figured that is what was meant. the bottom
line is that the specs were poorly written and incomplete.

I'll try to use a drive out of a Compaq 1200 that has a broken screen.

The case power supply has two SATA power connectors. And the ITX
motherboard I have has IDE headers. So I have to decide if I want to
use a SATA or IDE drive, and I'll need adaptors regardless. A DVD
player, which I still don't know how to secure in the case, is still a
question mark. (I'd have to try and find someone who has used this
case).

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
S

Searcher7

My bad, I meant to type 3.5" drive. Why didn't you know this before
you got the setup?

You mean why did I believe the information posted that turned out to
be false.

I have a lot of 3.5" drives. When I opened up the case and determined
that these drives were in fact too large, I assumed that there was a
typo and that laptop size drives(2.5") were required. (The standard
3.5" cannot slide all the way back).

The below link shows a DVD player on the right and a 3.5" IDE hard
drive on the left pushed as far in as they go. (There is no way to
secure the DVD player).

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnRS0338ITXCase.jpg

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
G

GMAN

You mean why did I believe the information posted that turned out to
be false.

I have a lot of 3.5" drives. When I opened up the case and determined
that these drives were in fact too large, I assumed that there was a
typo and that laptop size drives(2.5") were required. (The standard
3.5" cannot slide all the way back).

The below link shows a DVD player on the right and a 3.5" IDE hard
drive on the left pushed as far in as they go. (There is no way to
secure the DVD player).

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnRS0=
338ITXCase.jpg

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

It looks like where you have the hard drive is where a floppy would mount.

The hard drive would mount below the DVD drive.

Can you give us a photo of the front of the case?
 
S

Searcher7

It looks like where you have the hard drive is where a floppy would mount..

The hard drive would mount below the DVD drive.

Can you give us a photo of the front of the case?

Again, this is with the hard drive on the left and the DVD player on
the right.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnRS0338ITXCaseFront.jpg

(The case/power supply has two SATA power connectors and a 4-pin for
the drives).

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
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GMAN

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GMAN

Hate to ask this but how about one looking from the rear , on an angle so that
we can see what the space under the DVD drive looks like?>

Actually, if you look at the front of the case, you see those two screws that
are helt temporarily in with some peices of clear tape? It looks like you
mount your HD sideways in that space using those screws to hold the drive in
place.....
 
S

Searcher7

On Nov 12, 1:13=A0pm, (e-mail address removed) (GMAN) wrote:



Actually, if you look at the front of the case, you see those two screws that
are helt temporarily in with some peices of clear tape? It looks like you
mount your HD sideways in that space using those screws to hold the drivein
place.....

First. I'm realizing how badly designed this case is. The following
are top views from the front and from the rear:
Front:http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/
FoxconnCaseFront.jpg
Rear: http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnCaseRear.jpg

Those two screw holes you mentioned do line up with two out of three
of the screw holes on the side of the hard drive. So I took the power
supply out and unplugged the USB and Audio cables so I could place the
hard drive in that location, and it fit, sort of...

1) After taking out another weirdly placed case screw, I got the hard
drive into position and those two screws mentioned into it's side. But
the opposite side is unsupported and there is no way to correct this,
because of the guide that keep that side of the drive pushed down, and
there are no support/screws to go in that side of the drive anyway. So
I'm sure those front two screws are under a lot of stress. The
following is the opposite view from inside the case:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnHardDrive.jpg

2) The DVD Player cannot be secured at all, and is only stopped from
sliding all the way back into the case by the case fan.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnDVDPlayer.jpg

3) The motherboard will fit if I put it in without the ram chip. But
when I install the ram it is very tightly wedged up against the bottom
of the DVD case. (That's not good, is it?).
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnMotherboard.jpg

4) Then getting an IDE cable in IDE connector #1 is a chore. I'd have
to fold it up tightly in order for it to be of any use. (Don't even
think about connector #2). But I'm using a SATA drive and will need an
"IDE to SATA" adaptor anyway.

5) I'd also like to put a card reader in the small area just in front
of the power supply, but I'd have to take a hack saw to it so that it
would fit all the way in. (And there is noway to secure the card
reader either).
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/DVDPlayer-HardDrive-CardReader.jpg

(I'm sticking to ATX from now on). :-(

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
G

GMAN

On Nov 12, 1:13=3DA0pm, (e-mail address removed) (GMAN) wrote:
First. I'm realizing how badly designed this case is. The following
are top views from the front and from the rear:
Front:http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/
FoxconnCaseFront.jpg
Rear: http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/Foxc=
onnCaseRear.jpg

Those two screw holes you mentioned do line up with two out of three
of the screw holes on the side of the hard drive. So I took the power
supply out and unplugged the USB and Audio cables so I could place the
hard drive in that location, and it fit, sort of...

1) After taking out another weirdly placed case screw, I got the hard
drive into position and those two screws mentioned into it's side. But
the opposite side is unsupported and there is no way to correct this,
because of the guide that keep that side of the drive pushed down, and
there are no support/screws to go in that side of the drive anyway. So
I'm sure those front two screws are under a lot of stress. The
following is the opposite view from inside the case:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnHar=
dDrive.jpg

Looks fine to me. There ar little metal mounds right under that side of the
drive.

2) The DVD Player cannot be secured at all, and is only stopped from
sliding all the way back into the case by the case fan.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnDVD=
Player.jpg

There are screw holes in the side of the DVD area. There must be a way of
removing and lifting out the drive cage to get to mount the DVD drive.
 
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GMAN

On Nov 12, 1:13=3DA0pm, (e-mail address removed) (GMAN) wrote:
First. I'm realizing how badly designed this case is. The following
are top views from the front and from the rear:
Front:http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/
FoxconnCaseFront.jpg
Rear: http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/Foxc=
onnCaseRear.jpg

Those two screw holes you mentioned do line up with two out of three
of the screw holes on the side of the hard drive. So I took the power
supply out and unplugged the USB and Audio cables so I could place the
hard drive in that location, and it fit, sort of...

1) After taking out another weirdly placed case screw, I got the hard
drive into position and those two screws mentioned into it's side. But
the opposite side is unsupported and there is no way to correct this,
because of the guide that keep that side of the drive pushed down, and
there are no support/screws to go in that side of the drive anyway. So
I'm sure those front two screws are under a lot of stress. The
following is the opposite view from inside the case:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnHar=
dDrive.jpg

2) The DVD Player cannot be secured at all, and is only stopped from
sliding all the way back into the case by the case fan.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnDVD=
Player.jpg

3) The motherboard will fit if I put it in without the ram chip. But
when I install the ram it is very tightly wedged up against the bottom
of the DVD case. (That's not good, is it?).
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnMot=
herboard.jpg

4) Then getting an IDE cable in IDE connector #1 is a chore. I'd have
to fold it up tightly in order for it to be of any use. (Don't even
think about connector #2). But I'm using a SATA drive and will need an
"IDE to SATA" adaptor anyway.

5) I'd also like to put a card reader in the small area just in front
of the power supply, but I'd have to take a hack saw to it so that it
would fit all the way in. (And there is noway to secure the card
reader either).
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/DVDPlayer-=
HardDrive-CardReader.jpg

(I'm sticking to ATX from now on). :-(

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
Are the black sides of the case unscrewable and removeable???? That would be
how to get to the side to screw in the DVD drive.
 
S

Searcher7

On Nov 12, 1:13=3DA0pm, (e-mail address removed) (GMAN) wrote:
com>,
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:09:30 -0800 (PST), Searcher7




Looks fine to me.  There ar little metal mounds right under that side of the
drive.

The metal mounts go the entire width under the drive at both ends. The
picture doesn't really effectively show how slanted the drive is, but
it is being held by only two screws on one side, and touching nothing
else.
There are screw holes in the side of the DVD area. There must be a way of
removing and lifting out the drive cage to get to mount the DVD drive.

There are no more screws to remove outside of the two that hold the
Audio & USB ports to the cage. There are just rivets where it appears
only screws should be. I'm thinking that this is a quality control
issue, because I'm sure this can have happened to everyone who bought
this case.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
S

Searcher7

On Nov 12, 4:15=A0pm, (e-mail address removed) (GMAN) wrote:



The metal mounts go the entire width under the drive at both ends. The
picture doesn't really effectively show how slanted the drive is, but
it is being held by only two screws on one side, and touching nothing
else.



There are no more screws to remove outside of the two that hold the
Audio & USB ports to the cage. There are just rivets where it appears
only screws should be. I'm thinking that this is a quality control
issue, because I'm sure this can have happened to everyone who bought
this case.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Ok, this is where I'm at.

The hard drive is supposed to be put in upside down.

I'll have to use a hack saw or something to cut the back of the DVD
cage off. I just don't know if that will be enough, because the ram
will still be wedged up against the DVD player.

I'll also have to do the same to a card reader I have because the
floppy drive area is too small for a standard size floppy drive.

And I'll have to drill holes so I can secure both the DVD drive and
also the card reader in place, since there are no holes in the cages
for this.

Lastly, does anyone know the part number for the F-Panel connector
housing, so I can order it an replace the one it has?

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
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Paul

Searcher7 said:
Ok, this is where I'm at.

The hard drive is supposed to be put in upside down.

I'll have to use a hack saw or something to cut the back of the DVD
cage off. I just don't know if that will be enough, because the ram
will still be wedged up against the DVD player.

I'll also have to do the same to a card reader I have because the
floppy drive area is too small for a standard size floppy drive.

And I'll have to drill holes so I can secure both the DVD drive and
also the card reader in place, since there are no holes in the cages
for this.

Lastly, does anyone know the part number for the F-Panel connector
housing, so I can order it an replace the one it has?

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

At what point do you say "this project is taking too
much hack saw work" ? :)

Surely there's a case out there, with bays the right
size for your goods.

http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=3

Not all of those cases will have review articles written
about them, and without good pictures of the interior,
you could end up in the same mess again, with the
"hack saw".

Building small stuff is tricky.

Paul
 
S

Searcher7

At what point do you say "this project is taking too
much hack saw work" ? :)

Surely there's a case out there, with bays the right
size for your goods.

http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=3

Not all of those cases will have review articles written
about them, and without good pictures of the interior,
you could end up in the same mess again, with the
"hack saw".

Building small stuff is tricky.

    Paul

Apparently. But I'm going to stick with the case I already paid for.
Who is to say that the next one will be any different?

I just need to find out what kind of F-Panel connector goes connects
to a standard motherboard.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
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Paul

Searcher7 said:
Apparently. But I'm going to stick with the case I already paid for.
Who is to say that the next one will be any different?

I just need to find out what kind of F-Panel connector goes connects
to a standard motherboard.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

You're referring to the front panel connector, where normally you
connect RESET switch, PWR switch, HDD LED, PWR LED as inputs and
outputs. On retail computers, the pin spacing is 0.1" on those,
they're all close spacing two pin assemblies, with 0.1" between pins.

On motherboards you buy at the store, a different standard is used.
An older standard. Speaker is a "four hole" shell, with the
two working wires having 0.3" between them.

When the case wiring doesn't match your new motherboard, you have
an option if the case connector is bigger than the motherboard pin pattern.

This diagram, shows the female part of the pin header scheme,
has a retention tab. Bending the tab, allows the wire and crimp
pin, to be backed out of the nylon shell. By doing that, you can
take a 1x4 speaker thing from a computer case, and change the pin
spacing to make it into a "1x2 plus overhang". If there is room,
you can then seat the newly modified connector, leaving the two
unused shell holes sitting out in space. So you can make a
"bigger connector" into a "smaller connector". You can even
"hack saw" the excess shell off if you want :) :) I knew
you'd enjoy that part.

http://www.frontx.com/head_con.html

If the computer case were to ship with a 1x2, and you needed a
1x4 spacing, then you need to buy a new shell for the crimp pins
and wires.

For example, this 1x4 shell, would allow you to modify a computer
case 1x2 assembly, and move the pins out to the proper 1x4 spacing.
That one happens to be $0.50.

http://www.frontx.com/cpx075_3.html

I can see your front panel in the picture you provided here.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/F-PanelConnector.jpg

And I found the manual here. UM_EPIA-M_150.pdf 1,540,092 bytes

http://www.via.com.tw/servlet/downloadSvl?motherboard_id=81&download_file_id=3300

Notes: "KEY" means the pin is missing, and provides an alignment function.
So pin 15 is missing on the motherboard.

Polarized, means the "+" and "-" are important. If the LED does not
light up, simply power off, rotate the connector 180 degrees, plug
it in and try again. Computer case LEDs usually have at least a
5V "peak inverse volts" rating, and miswiring them won't damage them.
Rotate them and try again. The LED lights one way, but not the other.

The switches are not polarized, because the switch electronics are
isolated from chassis ground. The switch should work, no matter how
it is rotated. You don't have to match "+" to "+" when connecting
the switch. Whereas, with the LEDs, you do want to match them
"+" to "+".

Notice the VIA power LED pattern, is compatible with 1x2 and 1x3
computer case connectors. In the diagram, I'm assuming the case
uses a 1x2 connector. A 1x3 connector would have the middle hole
blank, and the + and - pins on 1 and 3.

The case speaker beeps during POST. High end cases don't come with
speakers. All the cheap computer cases I own, came with a "beep"
speaker. Handy, when you're listening for POST to complete.
Regular audio, comes out of your other speakers.

Pin Signal Pin Signal
1 PWR_LED+ 2 HDD_LED+ \___ HDD activity LED
Power LED ___/3 PWR_LED+ 4 HDD_LED- / (1x2) Note: LEDS are polarized.
(1x2) \5 PWR_LED- 6 PW_BN+ \___ 1x2 connector for POWER button
/7 SPEAKER+ 8 PW_BN- / (This switch is not polarized.)
Case SPKR ___/ 9 10 RESET+ \___ 1x2 connector for RESET button
(1x4) \ 11 12 RESET- / (This switch is not polarized.)
\13 SPEAKER- 14 SLED+ \___ Sleep LED on case is unlikely.
15 (KEY) 16 SLED- / So this is a no connect.

So FrontX, or any decent electronics store (probably not Radio Shack),
would carry nylon shells. If you're going to waste the time
making a FrontX order, don't forget to buy packs of crimp pins too, to
make the order worthwhile. If you need to re-terminate some wires in a
computer, these will come in handy. These are the pins that slide fit
into the nylon shell. It takes a bit of practice if you don't have the
right tool to make the crimp, to do these by hand. Which is why you buy
way more pins than you'll really need. Practice makes perfect.

http://www.frontx.com/cpx076.html

And as with everything in life, there are brands of shells, that won't
take other brands of pins, and vice versa. (I had to file some
down, to get them to fit.) So if you thought buying that stuff
would solve all possible PANEL problems, think again. You would
though, expect a FrontX shell, to fit a FrontX crimp pin.

HTH,
Paul
 
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GMAN

On Nov 12, 4:15=3DA0pm, (e-mail address removed) (GMAN) wrote:
(e-mail address removed) (GMAN) wrote:
s.com>,
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com>,
Ok, this is where I'm at.

The hard drive is supposed to be put in upside down.

I'll have to use a hack saw or something to cut the back of the DVD
cage off. I just don't know if that will be enough, because the ram
will still be wedged up against the DVD player.

I'll also have to do the same to a card reader I have because the
floppy drive area is too small for a standard size floppy drive.

And I'll have to drill holes so I can secure both the DVD drive and
also the card reader in place, since there are no holes in the cages
for this.

In one of the photos you sent, i seen holes for the DVD drive
 
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ting

I have a Foxconn RS0338 Mini-ITX case and an EPIA M10000 Mini-ITX
mainboard.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...smalllinux.org/store/motherboards/EPIA_M10000

I've only put together ATX PCs before this and I cannot figure out
what hard drive and DVD player I need to get that would fit into this
case.

I can slide a DVD player into the case, but there is no way to secure
it even if there was a way to get a screw driver inside, because none
of the holes line up.

And as for the hard drive, is it plausible to use any laptop hard
drive with an ITX motherboard?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Looking at your pictures, I think the whole drive mount bay might
unscrew off, letting you lift it up out of the case. Try removing
every single screw on the case and see if the drive mount can be
wiggled free. Many jigsaw puzzle type cases use tab and hooks to
secure a bracket, with only 1-2 screws to hold it into place.

If you can take it apart, there may be screw holes underneath,
designed to hold your DVD from the bottom. Alternately, with it apart,
you can always drill new mounting holes directly into the bracket.
 
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GMAN

Looking at your pictures, I think the whole drive mount bay might
unscrew off, letting you lift it up out of the case. Try removing
every single screw on the case and see if the drive mount can be
wiggled free. Many jigsaw puzzle type cases use tab and hooks to
secure a bracket, with only 1-2 screws to hold it into place.

If you can take it apart, there may be screw holes underneath,
designed to hold your DVD from the bottom. Alternately, with it apart,
you can always drill new mounting holes directly into the bracket.


Ting is correct, it must slide out or something . I can see screw holes in the
bottom in this pic

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/Chassis/detail_overview.
aspx?ID=en-us0000153


Looks like it slides back 1 inch and then lifts out


What happens when you remove the screw right under the 3.5 drive bay, and the
screw right below the bottom right of the DVD drive? Does the cage lift up and
out?


http://i290.photobucket.
com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/FoxconnRS0338ITXCaseFront.jpg
 
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Searcher7

You're referring to the front panel connector, where normally you
connect RESET switch, PWR switch, HDD LED, PWR LED as inputs and
outputs. On retail computers, the pin spacing is 0.1" on those,
they're all close spacing two pin assemblies, with 0.1" between pins.

On motherboards you buy at the store, a different standard is used.
An older standard. Speaker is a "four hole" shell, with the
two working wires having 0.3" between them.

When the case wiring doesn't match your new motherboard, you have
an option if the case connector is bigger than the motherboard pin pattern.

This diagram, shows the female part of the pin header scheme,
has a retention tab. Bending the tab, allows the wire and crimp
pin, to be backed out of the nylon shell. By doing that, you can
take a 1x4 speaker thing from a computer case, and change the pin
spacing to make it into a "1x2 plus overhang". If there is room,
you can then seat the newly modified connector, leaving the two
unused shell holes sitting out in space. So you can make a
"bigger connector" into a "smaller connector". You can even
"hack saw" the excess shell off if you want :) :) I knew
you'd enjoy that part.

http://www.frontx.com/head_con.html

If the computer case were to ship with a 1x2, and you needed a
1x4 spacing, then you need to buy a new shell for the crimp pins
and wires.

For example, this 1x4 shell, would allow you to modify a computer
case 1x2 assembly, and move the pins out to the proper 1x4 spacing.
That one happens to be $0.50.

http://www.frontx.com/cpx075_3.html

I can see your front panel in the picture you provided here.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll257/Statenislander/Computer/F-Pa...

And I found the manual here. UM_EPIA-M_150.pdf    1,540,092 bytes

http://www.via.com.tw/servlet/downloadSvl?motherboard_id=81&download_....

Notes: "KEY" means the pin is missing, and provides an alignment function..
        So pin 15 is missing on the motherboard.

        Polarized, means the "+" and "-" are important. If the LED does not
        light up, simply power off, rotate the connector 180 degrees, plug
        it in and try again. Computer case LEDs usually have at least a
        5V "peak inverse volts" rating, and miswiring them won't damage them.
        Rotate them and try again. The LED lights one way, but not the other.

        The switches are not polarized, because the switch electronics are
        isolated from chassis ground. The switch should work, no matter how
        it is rotated. You don't have to match "+" to "+" when connecting
        the switch. Whereas, with the LEDs, you do want to match them
        "+" to "+".

        Notice the VIA power LED pattern, is compatible with 1x2 and 1x3
        computer case connectors. In the diagram, I'm assuming the case
        uses a 1x2 connector. A 1x3 connector would have the middle hole
        blank, and the + and - pins on 1 and 3.

        The case speaker beeps during POST. High end cases don't come with
        speakers. All the cheap computer cases I own, came with a"beep"
        speaker. Handy, when you're listening for POST to complete.
        Regular audio, comes out of your other speakers.

                Pin   Signal   Pin   Signal
                1    PWR_LED+   2   HDD_LED+ \___HDD activity LED
  Power LED ___/3    PWR_LED+   4   HDD_LED- /    (1x2) Note: LEDS are polarized.
  (1x2)        \5    PWR_LED-   6   PW_BN+ \___ 1x2 connector for POWER button
               /7    SPEAKER+   8   PW_BN- /    (This switch is not polarized.)
Case SPKR ___/ 9              10   RESET+ \___ 1x2 connector for RESET button
(1x4)        \ 11             12   RESET- /    (This switch is not polarized.)
               \13   SPEAKER-  14   SLED+  \___ Sleep LED on case is unlikely.
                15   (KEY)     16   SLED-  /    So this is a no connect.

So FrontX, or any decent electronics store (probably not Radio Shack),
would carry nylon shells. If you're going to waste the time
making a FrontX order, don't forget to buy packs of crimp pins too, to
make the order worthwhile. If you need to re-terminate some wires in a
computer, these will come in handy. These are the pins that slide fit
into the nylon shell. It takes a bit of practice if you don't have the
right tool to make the crimp, to do these by hand. Which is why you buy
way more pins than you'll really need. Practice makes perfect.

http://www.frontx.com/cpx076.html

And as with everything in life, there are brands of shells, that won't
take other brands of pins, and vice versa. (I had to file some
down, to get them to fit.) So if you thought buying that stuff
would solve all possible PANEL problems, think again. You would
though, expect a FrontX shell, to fit a FrontX crimp pin.

HTH,
      Paul

Thanks.

But you didn't have to write all that. All I need is the part number
for the connector I need. (The connector that goes to the
motherboard).

I can remove the pins from the F-Panel connector. I just need the
connector to put them in.

(Also, it appears that the front panel pins specification of the case
cannot be found. (So I assume figuring this out would be a matter of
trial and error)

A Foxconn tech sent me this link:
http://www.foxconnsupport.com/downl...000000003&Series=en-us0000002&keywords=&sort=

But it doesn't seem to help much.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 

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