Poking Fun - If Books Were Licensed Like Vista

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Pecos

If Books Were Licensed
Like Vista

a.. Only bookcase makers or distributors may purchase the OEM version of the
book. The book must then be sold with a bookcase. (Vista OEM)

a.. If the book is faulty, you need help reading the book or for returns, do
not contact us, the publishing house. You must contact the store where you
purchased your bookcase. (Vista OEM)

a.. The original owner of the book may give away or sell the book, but only
with the bookcase you used to store the book. (Vista OEM, and Anytime
Upgrade)

a.. If the original owner of the book's bookcase falls apart, you must buy a
new book unless the original owner purchases a bookcase of the same make and
model.(Vista OEM).

a.. The original owner may sell the book, but the person buying the book
cannot sell it. If he does sell or give the book away, the pages will
immediately become fused together effectively prohibiting the new owner from
the joy of reading.

a.. You may allow someone help you to read the book (Vista All features
Versions - Remote Assistance), but you can only allow someone to read the
book over your shoulder or with you if you have the hard back edition (Vista
Business and Ultimate - Remote Desktop).

a.. You can't read the licensed book and any other book at the same time
(Vista Home Basic and Premium - Virtualization Technology), but you may if
you own the hard back edition (Vista Business and Ultimate - Virtualization
Technology)

a.. If you have the paper back version, you may upgrade to the hard back
edition, but you must destroy the original paperback (Vista Anytime Upgrade
and Upgrade).

a.. The book has chapters 6, 9, 10 and 12, but you can't read them (Vista
Home Basic)*.

a.. The book has chapters 6 and 12, but you can't read them (Vista Home
Premium)*.

a.. The book has chapters 7 and 11, but you can't read them (Vista
Business)*.

* For a nominal fee to the publisher, you may read these chapters

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Alan Norton - 'Pecos'
 
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Dale

Pecos said:
If Books Were Licensed
Like Vista

a.. Only bookcase makers or distributors may purchase the OEM version of
the book. The book must then be sold with a bookcase. (Vista OEM)

A book case is not even a valid analogy. OEM versions require new hardware
upon which the OS is intended to be used, not stored. So instead of a book
case, OEM versions of book must be sold with eyes and a brain - whomever
wrote this comparison should consider buying an OEM book.
a.. If the book is faulty, you need help reading the book or for returns,
do not contact us, the publishing house. You must contact the store where
you purchased your bookcase. (Vista OEM)

The company that sold you your eyes and brain gave included a heavily
discounted copy of book. In order to get that heavy discount - which, by
the way, the makers of your eyes and brain passed on to you at no additional
charge - they agreed to support the book because, afterall, they sold you
the eyes and brain required to use the book. If your eyes and brain are not
capable of reading the book, what good is it going to do to call the
publisher?
a.. The original owner of the book may give away or sell the book, but
only with the bookcase you used to store the book. (Vista OEM, and Anytime
Upgrade)

Nah, you can keep your disk cabinet. Include the PC that the qualified you
for the OS. Or, since youre no longer keeping with the agreement that
enabled the deeply discounted OS, pay the difference between OEM and full
retail.

Or, in the case of the book, keep the book case, but give the user your eyes
and brain. or buy the full version of the book that allows you to do what
you want with it.
a.. If the original owner of the book's bookcase falls apart, you must buy
a new book unless the original owner purchases a bookcase of the same make
and model.(Vista OEM).

Not so. You can get a heart transplant, a new kidney, and even new breasts,
but if you get new eyes and a new brain, how can the person who sold you
those eyes and brain be expected to support your book on someone elses eyes
and brain?
a.. The original owner may sell the book, but the person buying the book
cannot sell it. If he does sell or give the book away, the pages will
immediately become fused together effectively prohibiting the new owner
from the joy of reading.

They're being very kind to transfer the eyes and brain once. That kind of
surgury costs money. Keeping up with where that eyes and brain are at costs
money. If you want to sell the book while including all rights that you
bought in the first place, then buy the full version of the book - the one
that you have to use with the eyes and brain you already had - may not apply
to whomever wrote this comparison.
a.. You may allow someone help you to read the book (Vista All features
Versions - Remote Assistance), but you can only allow someone to read the
book over your shoulder or with you if you have the hard back edition
(Vista Business and Ultimate - Remote Desktop).

The hardbound book does come with a over-the-shoulder reader. The
paper-back version doesn't. You want the over-the-shoulder reader - buy the
hardbound. Makes perfect sense to me.
a.. You can't read the licensed book and any other book at the same time
(Vista Home Basic and Premium - Virtualization Technology), but you may if
you own the hard back edition (Vista Business and Ultimate -
Virtualization Technology)

The hardbound book also may come with glossy pictures and a slick cover.
The paper-back includes neither. The paper-back sells for much less - you
get much less. This kind of reminds me of TV. The 129 dollar tv I buy at
Walmart does not include picture-in-picture. The 400 dollar one does
include picture-in-picture. Again, makes perfect sense.
a.. If you have the paper back version, you may upgrade to the hard back
edition, but you must destroy the original paperback (Vista Anytime
Upgrade and Upgrade).

If you buy the paper-back version, and we give you a discount to buy the
hard-back version on the condition then, yes, we expect you to destroy the
paper-back version. You're free to keep both versions if you pay the full
price for both.
a.. The book has chapters 6, 9, 10 and 12, but you can't read them (Vista
Home Basic)*.

No, all the chapters are there, you just bought the Readers' Digest
condensed version. It is missing some of the fluff.
a.. The book has chapters 6 and 12, but you can't read them (Vista Home
Premium)*.

See above.
a.. The book has chapters 7 and 11, but you can't read them (Vista
Business)*.

See above the above.
* For a nominal fee to the publisher, you may read these chapters

Wow. They're going to let you upgrade your Readers Condensed version to the
full hard-back book? That's amazing. Microsoft Press is such a wonderful
company.
 
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Pecos

Dale said:
A book case is not even a valid analogy. OEM versions require new
hardware upon which the OS is intended to be used, not stored. So instead
of a book case, OEM versions of book must be sold with eyes and a brain -
whomever wrote this comparison should consider buying an OEM book.

I don't want to have to buy bookcases with my books. discounted or not, and
I don't want to have to buy books with my bookcase.

The analogy has to be something that you can buy or lease. You cannot buy
or lease eyes or brains. But if you know of a source of a new brain, I'm all
ears, but I would hate to lose all of those fond memories, knowledge and
wisdom it has taken me these many years to acquire.

You don't like that analogy? OK. How about this:

a.. Only eyeglass makers or distributors may purchase the OEM version of
the book. The book must then be sold with a pair of eyeglasses. (Vista OEM)

The eyeglasses are 'intended to be used' with the book.
The company that sold you your eyes and brain gave included a heavily
discounted copy of book. In order to get that heavy discount - which, by
the way, the makers of your eyes and brain passed on to you at no
additional charge - they agreed to support the book because, afterall,
they sold you the eyes and brain required to use the book. If your eyes
and brain are not capable of reading the book, what good is it going to do
to call the publisher?

If the book is faulty it should be replaced or fixed. Whether it goes back
to the store or the publisher, the publisher was at fault and should
therefore incur the costs of a replacement / fix. The Vista OEM book puts
the burden for 'fixing' the book squarely on the stores without allowing
those stores to be reimbursed.

In addition, since the publisher can contact the expert, the author who
actually wrote the book., they can provide the best and only real support.
Nah, you can keep your disk cabinet. Include the PC that the qualified
you for the OS. Or, since youre no longer keeping with the agreement that
enabled the deeply discounted OS, pay the difference between OEM and full
retail.

Or, in the case of the book, keep the book case, but give the user your
eyes and brain. or buy the full version of the book that allows you to do
what you want with it.

You aren't really buying the OEM version of the book then, you are merely
leasing it with the bookcase. If you bought it, you would have the
ownership rights to transfer it to your new PC and give or sell your old PC
without it.
Not so. You can get a heart transplant, a new kidney, and even new
breasts, but if you get new eyes and a new brain, how can the person who
sold you those eyes and brain be expected to support your book on someone
elses eyes and brain?

Then lets call it what it really is - a contractual lease agreement between
you and the publisher. You don't really own the book. The book is leased
to you only as long as your bookcase is still standing and can hold it, not
a perfect analogy though since bookcases last a lot longer than motherboards
or PC's.
They're being very kind to transfer the eyes and brain once. That kind of
surgury costs money. Keeping up with where that eyes and brain are at
costs money. If you want to sell the book while including all rights that
you bought in the first place, then buy the full version of the book - the
one that you have to use with the eyes and brain you already had - may not
apply to whomever wrote this comparison.

Why should it cost the publisher money when the owner transfers the book?
Why should anyone care where the book is? I don't want RFID devices in my
book so it can be tracked for 'authentification' purposes either.
And exactly what are ownership rights if I buy the book from someone and it
can't be sold again. What do I really 'own' if it can't be sold?
The hardbound book does come with a over-the-shoulder reader. The
paper-back version doesn't. You want the over-the-shoulder reader - buy
the hardbound. Makes perfect sense to me.

I expect the paperback edition to include the same exact words as the hard
back edition. If I want a different story, I will buy another book and
expect all of the chapters to be there and to be able to read them.
The hardbound book also may come with glossy pictures and a slick cover.
The paper-back includes neither. The paper-back sells for much less - you
get much less. This kind of reminds me of TV. The 129 dollar tv I buy at
Walmart does not include picture-in-picture. The 400 dollar one does
include picture-in-picture. Again, makes perfect sense.

That doesn't address the issue. I should be able to put more than one book
on my shelf, whether it is paperback or hardback, or whether the book cost
$1.99 or $49.95. With Vista, you can only put more than one book in your
bookcase if you own the hard back book.
If you buy the paper-back version, and we give you a discount to buy the
hard-back version on the condition then, yes, we expect you to destroy the
paper-back version. You're free to keep both versions if you pay the full
price for both.

You mean I have to 'trade in' my book for the hard back edition. Well, that
actually makes some sense, but I would expect the hard back edition to have
the same number of chapters in it and that isn't what the upgrade programs
are all about.
No, all the chapters are there, you just bought the Readers' Digest
condensed version. It is missing some of the fluff.

If I want to read 'more chapters' I expect to and should have to buy a new
book where they actually physically exist.
But you can read all of the chapters of a Reader's Digest book. OK, let's
use your example.

The Readers Digest book has chapters 6, 9, 10 and 12, but you can't read
them (Vista Home Basic)*.
See above.

The Readers Digest book has chapters 6 and 12, but you can't read them
(Vista Home Premium)*.

The Readers Digest book has chapters 7 and 11, but you can't read them
(Vista Business)*.
See above the above.


Wow. They're going to let you upgrade your Readers Condensed version to
the full hard-back book? That's amazing. Microsoft Press is such a
wonderful company.

Yeah, lucky me. I can get those missing chapters by giving the publisher
more money. Wow! Oh and by the way, when I get those missing chapters,
because I did it through a 'special transaction' I now HAVE to sell my book
with the bookcase, even if I didn't have to do that before the 'upgrade'!

Dale, thank you for your thoughtful reply. I am always appreciative of a
different point of view. You are missing the whole point of my analogy
though. The keyword is if. '*IF* Books Were Licensed Like Vista' what
would my books and bookshelves look like?

Just what exactly what would book ownership be like if they used the
Microsoft licensing model?

I fear that posting this conversation online may give publishers a new
business model to consider, one that I wouldn't like very much at all. ;-)

Alan Norton

Note to group:
I apologive for that repetitvive a.. thing. I had cut and pasted that
directly from my webpage using IE 7.0.5600.16384. When the cut and paste
was made, it added a carriage return between each list item. The original
HTML included the <br> tag at the end of each list item.

I have done some testing and found that if you remove the <br> tag, you get
no letters at all. With the <br> tags there, you can however cut and paste
the list, manually remove the carriage returns and end up with a nicely
lettered list. Pretty neat except for the manual part. Using this method
will letter each list item a., b. c. etc.
 

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