Please Help - I have networked my laptop to my pc and can only open files from pc in read only

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Candace Reed

I have tried all of your suggestions Jesper and none of them work. There
are no files open on the other computer. If I create a new document, it
exhibits the same problem.

Can't afford to buy a USB flash drive.

I did open the "Shared Folders" management interface. It brought up a
shared folders (local) file and under there were three other file folders.
Shares, Sessions, and Open Files. There was not any "Share Permissions" or
"Security" Tabs. There was nothing under Sessions or Open Files. Under
Shares where "Admin", "ADMIN$", "C", "C$", "D$", "Documents", "IPC$",
"print$", "Candace" and "SharedDocs". What does the $ stand for?

In speaking to a computer company out here, they said the reason why I am
having problems is because Windows XP Media Center is not a full version of
Windows. Is that true?
 
G

Guest

Easy question first: the $ sign means that the name is hidden from the browse
list. The browse list is a list of shared resources that are shared with
other computers on the network. Items ending with a $-sign will not show up
there, nor when certain tools are used to see shared resources.

No, XP Media Center is the full version of Windows. In fact, it is Windows
XP Professional, with some additional multi-media features added, and with
the ability to use it in corporate networks (domains) disabled. In other
words, you have the same power with it as with Windows XP Professional.

I'm trying to find your original post, but the computer you had a problem
accessing was the one running Windows XP Home right? Users on that computer
can access shares on the Media Center computer, is that correct?

Let me give you more complete steps:
1. Hold down the Window key on the keyboar and hit R. When you let go of
both keys a dialog box comes up.
2. In the dialog, type "fsmgmt.msc"
3. This opens the Shared Folders interface. Click "Shares" in the left-hand
pane
4. Right-click "Documents" in the right-hand pane and select "Properties"
5. If you have a "Security" tab in the window that now opens, click it. If
not, we've hit a dead-end here.
6. Select each of the users or groups that you see in the top portion of the
window and make note of what entries are checked in the bottom portion. If
you want a sanity check on what these are, you can write it all down and send
to me.
7. If there is an entry for "Everyone" or "Users" or "Guest" click that one.
If "Modify" and/or "Write" is not checked, please do so.
8. Click "Apply."
9. Switch to the "Share permissions" tab and make sure that Everyone is
listed with "Full Control" there.
10. Click OK

If there is no security tab in step 5, then we can't really do much more
through that route of troubleshooting.

Keep in mind that at this point you have allowed anyone who can reach this
computer to read and write all the files on it. If you are at home, and you
have a firewall device between you and the Internet, that is not a problem.
If you take this computer and go hook up at the local Starbucks, or the
library, then we have a big problem. If that is the case, we need to do some
additional configuration.
 
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Candace Reed

The original post was on December 26, 2006 at 10:30 p.m. It was titled
"Please Help - I have networked my laptop to my pc and can only open files
from pc in read only"

You were correct. I am having problems accessing the pc that is running
Windows XP Home. The laptop that is running Windows XP Media Center can be
accessed by the pc and changed. The laptop can access the files from the pc
but only in read-only and I cannot make any changes to the files or resave
them back to the pc that is running Windows XP Home.

As per the below, I did steps 1 to 4 but when I right click "Documents" in
the right-hand pane, I only see Refresh and Help. I do not see properties
or security. This is driving me crazy.

The local computer shop says it is because my laptop is running Windows XP
Media Center. Are you saying that is not the problem? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?
I'm a single mom and I am trying to fix this so the kids can use my laptop
to access their documents and make changes and print them on the "fancy"
printer. I cannot afford to pay someone to look at this and yet I can't
seem to fix it. I don't get it. Everything is set up the same on each
computer and yet the laptop which is running Windows XP Media Center will
not allow me to make any changes to the pc that is running Windows XP Home.
ALL DOCUMENTS ARE ACCESSED IN READ ONLY MODE.

I have the two computers networked together by a router. My laptop has a
wireless router. I am running Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security so
that should be keeping others out, right?

Thank you for all of your help and patience.
 
M

Malke

Candace said:
The original post was on December 26, 2006 at 10:30 p.m. It was titled
"Please Help - I have networked my laptop to my pc and can only open files
from pc in read only"

You were correct. I am having problems accessing the pc that is running
Windows XP Home. The laptop that is running Windows XP Media Center can
be
accessed by the pc and changed. The laptop can access the files from the
pc but only in read-only and I cannot make any changes to the files or
resave them back to the pc that is running Windows XP Home.

As per the below, I did steps 1 to 4 but when I right click "Documents" in
the right-hand pane, I only see Refresh and Help. I do not see properties
or security. This is driving me crazy.

The local computer shop says it is because my laptop is running Windows XP
Media Center. Are you saying that is not the problem? WHAT IS THE
PROBLEM? I'm a single mom and I am trying to fix this so the kids can use
my laptop to access their documents and make changes and print them on the
"fancy"
printer. I cannot afford to pay someone to look at this and yet I can't
seem to fix it. I don't get it. Everything is set up the same on each
computer and yet the laptop which is running Windows XP Media Center will
not allow me to make any changes to the pc that is running Windows XP
Home. ALL DOCUMENTS ARE ACCESSED IN READ ONLY MODE.

I have the two computers networked together by a router. My laptop has a
wireless router. I am running Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security so
that should be keeping others out, right?

I hope that Jesper will not mind me popping in at this point. First, you
need to calm down. You are having a problem that is very simple to solve
and you are making things far more complicated than they need to be. Let's
take it from the beginning.

1. Turn both machines on. Run the Network Setup Wizard (in Control Panel) on
both machines, one at a time. When you get to the end of the Wizard, choose
the option that you don't need to do anything else at this time (instead of
plugging in a thumbdrive or the like). Then reboot both machines.

2. The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall.
If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus
with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2005/06) which acts as a
firewall, then you're fine. If you have third-party firewall software,
configure it to allow the Local Area Network traffic as trusted. I usually
do this with my firewalls with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet. Since I can't see your computers, you'll have to determine if you
have a third-party firewall/firewall function or not.

3. Go to Control Panel>User Accounts on each machine and create identical
user accounts and passwords. I don't care if you weren't using a password
before; create one that you will remember now. You can always set the
machine to log in automatically afterwards. See this link for how to do
that: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm - but do it *later*. You do
not need to be logged into the same accounts on both machines to share
files; the accounts and matching passwords must just *exist* on both
machines.

4. Now make your shares. On the Media Center machine, you can share whatever
you want. You can share the users' My Documents. YOU CANNOT DO THIS ON THE
XP HOME MACHINE (and yes, the capital letters were on purpose). XP Home
does not permit sharing of users' home directories (My Documents) or
Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better
choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder on the Home machine.

Now you should be able to copy files between the two machines. If you want
to share a printer connected to the desktop, go to the Printers applet and
right-click on the printer icon and then left-click on Sharing. Share the
printer. Depending on the printer, you may need to use its installation cd
on the laptop. Read the printer manual.

Malke
 
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Malke

Jesper said:
Malke, I welcome you jumping in! You have way more experience with Home
Edition than I do. I'm used to managing 12,000-50,000 users so I don't use
Home Edition a lot.

Yes, and that is why you are the King of Awesomeness. ;-) My client base is
home users and small businesses.
Candace, yes, please calm down. :) We're sorry this is so frustrating.

One thing to try, before you try Malke's excellent advice. When you are on
the laptop, can you see the "SharedDocs" folder on the other computer? If
so, can you save a document to it? If so, that's your single share point.
Malke made me realize that you probably can't make the "Documents" share
writeable on Home Edition. You will probably need the kids to copy
everything they want to share with you into the "Shared Documents" folder,
which is shared as "SharedDocs." Try that first.

If that does not work, try to follow what Malke has in here.
Alternatively, if it is too complicated, I bet you could work around the
problem by using the laptop as a server. Train the kids to put things they
want you to review on that system, since they can access that. You can
then review them, and when you are done, they can retrieve the documents
from the laptop again. That way you don't have to push the docs around. It
is usually far easier to have a single place to store things than to share
documents from every system on the network.

The local computer shop is mistaken. Windows XP Media Center Edition is
the full-featured version. Home Edition is the limited one. It is Home
Edition that is causing the problems, not Media Center. If you had Media
Center Edition on both computers you probably would not have needed our
help. The issue is in Home Edition limiting the shares to read-only
shares.

Candace - The reason we are telling you to be calm is because you can't do
anything finicky like working with computers when you are upset. Take deep
cleansing breaths and/or an adult beverage and know that you *will* get
this sorted. And just as an FYI - as a widow raising my two boys, I
understand about hard times and money being tight, but a usb thumbdrive
costs about $15.00. Your kids' school may even offer them for less. Trust
me, if you can raise two children you can network these computers. :)

Malke
 
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Candace Reed

Hi Malke and Jesper.

I am much calmer now as I finally got it to work.

Jesper, you were right. I copied a file into the "SharedDocs" folder on the
pc and then I opened it on my laptop and it did not open in read only. I
was able to open it, make changes to it and save it back to the shared
documents folder. I have now moved all documents that my girls use and put
them in the Shared Documents folder.

Thank you Jesper and Malke very much for all of your help.

It's great for people like me to know that there are people like you out
there who can help us when in need. Thanks again.
 
M

Malke

Candace said:
Hi Malke and Jesper.

I am much calmer now as I finally got it to work.

Jesper, you were right. I copied a file into the "SharedDocs" folder on
the
pc and then I opened it on my laptop and it did not open in read only. I
was able to open it, make changes to it and save it back to the shared
documents folder. I have now moved all documents that my girls use and
put them in the Shared Documents folder.

Thank you Jesper and Malke very much for all of your help.

It's great for people like me to know that there are people like you out
there who can help us when in need. Thanks again.

Well, it's great for people like us when we can help people like you. So
it's mutual. :)

I'm very glad you got it to work. Don't hesitate to post back if you need
any more help, but I think you're doing great!

Cheers,

Malke
 
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Candace Reed

Thank you for the extra info. Jesper. It is great to know this for future
reference but at least I have it working now.

Take care and thanks again.
 

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