[PL] Ballot and Opinion Poll: ACF Ware Glossary

[Susan Bugher]

5/6/2005 There is no voting deadline in this poll. It will remain open
as long as people are casting ballots.

The ACF Ware Glossary is here:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/WareGlossary.php

There are three parts to the poll:

1) revisions to the ware glossary
2) acceptable/unacceptable for PL2006
3) On Topic - Off Topic for newsgroup discussion

Note: Proposed revisions to the ACF Ware Glossary that might reclassify
Pricelessware 2005 programs as Adware will take affect in January 2006.
(The Pricelessware 2006 selection process will use the revised Ware
Glossary definitions.)


******************************************
1) ACF Ware Glossary - Proposed revisions
******************************************

LEAVE the definition you prefer. REMOVE definitions you do not wish to
vote for. REMOVE both choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

--------------

(proposed)
Adware: Software that displays advertising.

(proposed)
Adware: Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.

--------------

(existing)
Freeware: Legally obtainable software that you may use at no cost,
monetary or otherwise, for as long as you wish.

(proposed)
Freeware: Software that you can obtain legally at no cost (monetary or
otherwise) and use for as long as you wish at no cost (monetary or
otherwise).

-------

(existing)
Registerware: you must provide personal information via registration in
order to download and/or use the program

(proposed)
Registerware: you must provide personal information via registration in
order to download and/or use the program. Registerware may require
re-registration for continued use after a period of time has elapsed,
before reinstallation etc. etc.


********************************************************
2) Pricelessware 2006 Selection Procedures -
acceptable/unacceptable for nomination
********************************************************

Definitions are listed alphabetically. Both proposed Adware definitions
are shown. Select acceptable or unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the choices you agree with. REMOVE choices you do not wish to vote
for. REMOVE both choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

---------

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Betaware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

CDWare
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Commercial Software
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Crippleware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Demo-ware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Donationware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Freeware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Liteware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Malware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Nagware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Registerware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Requestware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Shareware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Spyware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Trialware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Warez
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination


************************************
3) Opinion Poll: On Topic - Off Topic
************************************

alt.comp.freeware is an unmoderated newsgroup. The opinion poll lets
newsgroup participants express their views on the type of software they
*prefer* to see discussed. A summary of this poll will be shown on the
ACF web pages.

Both proposed Adware definitions are shown. Select acceptable or
unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the opinion that you agree with. REMOVE the other choices. REMOVE
all choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

---------

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Betaware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

CDWare
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Commercial Software
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Crippleware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Demo-ware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Donationware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Freeware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Liteware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Malware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Nagware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Registerware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Requestware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Shareware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Spyware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Trialware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Warez
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

**********************

 

[coolchinchilla]

******************************************
1) ACF Ware Glossary - Proposed revisions
******************************************

LEAVE the definition you prefer. REMOVE definitions you do not wish to
vote for. REMOVE both choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

--------------

(proposed)
Adware: Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.

--------------

(proposed)
Freeware: Software that you can obtain legally at no cost (monetary or
otherwise) and use for as long as you wish at no cost (monetary or
otherwise).

-------

(proposed)
Registerware: you must provide personal information via registration in
order to download and/or use the program. Registerware may require
re-registration for continued use after a period of time has elapsed,
before reinstallation etc. etc.


********************************************************
2) Pricelessware 2006 Selection Procedures -
acceptable/unacceptable for nomination
********************************************************

Definitions are listed alphabetically. Both proposed Adware definitions
are shown. Select acceptable or unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the choices you agree with. REMOVE choices you do not wish to vote
for. REMOVE both choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

---------

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
is acceptable for nomination

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
is not acceptable for nomination

Betaware
is not acceptable for nomination

CDWare
is acceptable for nomination

Commercial Software
is not acceptable for nomination

Crippleware
is acceptable for nomination

Demo-ware
is not acceptable for nomination

Donationware
is acceptable for nomination

Freeware
is acceptable for nomination

Liteware
is acceptable for nomination

Malware
is not acceptable for nomination

Nagware
is acceptable for nomination

Registerware
is acceptable for nomination

Requestware
is acceptable for nomination

Shareware
is not acceptable for nomination

Spyware
is not acceptable for nomination

Trialware
is not acceptable for nomination

Warez
is not acceptable for nomination


************************************
3) Opinion Poll: On Topic - Off Topic
************************************

alt.comp.freeware is an unmoderated newsgroup. The opinion poll lets
newsgroup participants express their views on the type of software they
*prefer* to see discussed. A summary of this poll will be shown on the
ACF web pages.

Both proposed Adware definitions are shown. Select acceptable or
unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the opinion that you agree with. REMOVE the other choices. REMOVE
all choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

---------

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss

Betaware
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss

CDWare
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss

Commercial Software
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Crippleware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Demo-ware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Donationware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Freeware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Liteware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

 

[Susan Bugher]

my votes. . .

******************************************
1) ACF Ware Glossary - Proposed revisions
******************************************

Adware: Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.

Freeware: Software that you can obtain legally at no cost (monetary or
otherwise) and use for as long as you wish at no cost (monetary or
otherwise).

Registerware: you must provide personal information via registration in
order to download and/or use the program. Registerware may require
re-registration for continued use after a period of time has elapsed,
before reinstallation etc. etc.

********************************************************
2) Pricelessware 2006 Selection Procedures -
acceptable/unacceptable for nomination
********************************************************

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
is acceptable for nomination

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
is acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
is not acceptable for nomination

Betaware
is acceptable for nomination

CDWare
is not acceptable for nomination

Commercial Software
is not acceptable for nomination

Crippleware
is not acceptable for nomination

Demo-ware
is not acceptable for nomination

Donationware
is acceptable for nomination

Freeware
is acceptable for nomination

Liteware
is acceptable for nomination

Malware
is not acceptable for nomination

Nagware
is not acceptable for nomination

Registerware
is acceptable for nomination

Requestware
is acceptable for nomination

Shareware
is not acceptable for nomination

Spyware
is not acceptable for nomination

Trialware
is not acceptable for nomination

Warez
is not acceptable for nomination

************************************
3) Opinion Poll: On Topic - Off Topic
************************************

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Betaware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

CDWare
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Commercial Software
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Crippleware
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Demo-ware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Donationware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Freeware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Liteware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Malware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Nagware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Registerware
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss

Requestware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Shareware
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Spyware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

 

[Helium]

******************************************
1) ACF Ware Glossary - Proposed revisions
******************************************

LEAVE the definition you prefer. REMOVE definitions you do not wish to
vote for. REMOVE both choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

--------------

(proposed)
Adware: Software that displays advertising.

--------------

(existing)
Freeware: Legally obtainable software that you may use at no cost,
monetary or otherwise, for as long as you wish.

-------

(proposed)
Registerware: you must provide personal information via registration in
order to download and/or use the program. Registerware may require
re-registration for continued use after a period of time has elapsed,
before reinstallation etc. etc.

********************************************************
2) Pricelessware 2006 Selection Procedures -
acceptable/unacceptable for nomination
********************************************************

Definitions are listed alphabetically. Both proposed Adware definitions
are shown. Select acceptable or unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the choices you agree with. REMOVE choices you do not wish to vote
for. REMOVE both choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

---------

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
is acceptable for nomination

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
is not acceptable for nomination

Betaware
is acceptable for nomination

CDWare
is not acceptable for nomination

Commercial Software
is not acceptable for nomination

Crippleware


Demo-ware


Donationware
is acceptable for nomination


Freeware
is acceptable for nomination


Liteware
is acceptable for nomination

Malware
is not acceptable for nomination

Nagware
is not acceptable for nomination

Registerware
is acceptable for nomination

Requestware
is acceptable for nomination

Shareware
is not acceptable for nomination

Spyware
is not acceptable for nomination

Trialware
is not acceptable for nomination

Warez
is not acceptable for nomination

************************************
3) Opinion Poll: On Topic - Off Topic
************************************

alt.comp.freeware is an unmoderated newsgroup. The opinion poll lets
newsgroup participants express their views on the type of software they
*prefer* to see discussed. A summary of this poll will be shown on the
ACF web pages.

Both proposed Adware definitions are shown. Select acceptable or
unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the opinion that you agree with. REMOVE the other choices. REMOVE
all choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

---------

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Betaware


CDWare
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Commercial Software
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Crippleware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Demo-ware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss


Donationware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss


Freeware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss
Liteware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Malware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss


Nagware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
Registerware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Requestware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss


Shareware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss


Spyware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Trialware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss


Warez
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

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[B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson]

(proposed)
Adware: Software that displays advertising.

(proposed)
Adware: Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.

I think we are not in a hurry, yet. So I put it up to the group that both
'definitions' of adware proposed are in fact linguistic tautologies. ;-)
(They 'define' a word with a variety of itself...)

To be not only destructive I post another suggestion, which I derived from
a proposal I set last year:

Adware: Software that displays or outputs promotional information for
any other version, product or service outside its help system.

Let's see if someone else likes it. (Or follows up with yet another one.)
;-)

BeAr

 

[Jsp]

(proposed)

Freeware: Software that you can obtain legally at no cost (monetary or
otherwise) and use for as long as you wish at no cost (monetary or
otherwise).

-------

(existing)
Registerware: you must provide personal information via registration in
order to download and/or use the program


********************************************************
2) Pricelessware 2006 Selection Procedures -
acceptable/unacceptable for nomination
********************************************************

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
is acceptable for nomination

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
is acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
is not acceptable for nomination

Betaware
is acceptable for nomination

CDWare
is not acceptable for nomination

Commercial Software
is not acceptable for nomination

Crippleware
is not acceptable for nomination

Demo-ware
is not acceptable for nomination

Donationware
is acceptable for nomination

Freeware
is acceptable for nomination

Liteware
is acceptable for nomination

Malware
is not acceptable for nomination

Nagware
is not acceptable for nomination

Registerware
is acceptable for nomination

Requestware
is acceptable for nomination

Shareware
is not acceptable for nomination

Spyware
is not acceptable for nomination

Trialware
is not acceptable for nomination

Warez
is not acceptable for nomination


************************************
3) Opinion Poll: On Topic - Off Topic
************************************

alt.comp.freeware is an unmoderated newsgroup. The opinion poll lets
newsgroup participants express their views on the type of software they
*prefer* to see discussed. A summary of this poll will be shown on the
ACF web pages.

Both proposed Adware definitions are shown. Select acceptable or
unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the opinion that you agree with. REMOVE the other choices. REMOVE
all choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

---------

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Betaware
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss

CDWare
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Commercial Software
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Crippleware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Demo-ware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Donationware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Freeware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Liteware
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss

Malware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Nagware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Registerware
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss

Requestware
b) on-topic - usually okay to discuss

Shareware
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Spyware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Trialware
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Warez
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

**********************

Jsp

 

[Kurt]

B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson wrote in

I think we are not in a hurry, yet. So I put it up to the group
that both 'definitions' of adware proposed are in fact linguistic
tautologies. ;-) (They 'define' a word with a variety of
itself...)

To be not only destructive I post another suggestion, which I
derived from a proposal I set last year:

Adware: Software that displays or outputs promotional information
for any other version, product or service outside its help
system.

Let's see if someone else likes it. (Or follows up with yet
another one.) ;-)

Without agreeing or disagreeing of your tautological comment, I do like
your definition for it's explicitness. It is a more encompassing
definition.

 

[B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson]

Without agreeing or disagreeing of your tautological comment, I do like
your definition for it's explicitness. It is a more encompassing
definition.

Thanks. ;-)

Just to clarify my classification of the definition: The term Adware
does not stem from 'software carrying additional things', but from
'advertising supported software' (like Wikipedia put it short and
precise, IMHO).

Surprisingly, Adware is a rather old term. A quick Google search
revealed one of the earliest Usenet posts on that theme:

| FastEddie 3.1 has been released by Cottage Software as "AdWare" (as they like
| to call it) without the restrictions of earlier demo-versions which were
| limited to handle small files only. They call it AdWare because a window comes
| up every so often which advertises Cottage Software.

Message-ID: <[email protected]>

It is from 1987!

BeAr

 

[Dewey Edwards]

5/6/2005 There is no voting deadline in this poll. It will remain open
as long as people are casting ballots.

The ACF Ware Glossary is here:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/WareGlossary.php

There are three parts to the poll:

1) revisions to the ware glossary
2) acceptable/unacceptable for PL2006
3) On Topic - Off Topic for newsgroup discussion

Note: Proposed revisions to the ACF Ware Glossary that might reclassify
Pricelessware 2005 programs as Adware will take affect in January 2006.
(The Pricelessware 2006 selection process will use the revised Ware
Glossary definitions.)


******************************************
1) ACF Ware Glossary - Proposed revisions
******************************************

LEAVE the definition you prefer. REMOVE definitions you do not wish to
vote for. REMOVE both choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

I'm assuming that "displays" includes the output.

(existing)
Freeware: Legally obtainable software that you may use at no cost,
monetary or otherwise, for as long as you wish.

(proposed)
Registerware: you must provide personal information via registration in
order to download and/or use the program. Registerware may require
re-registration for continued use after a period of time has elapsed,
before reinstallation etc. etc.


********************************************************
2) Pricelessware 2006 Selection Procedures -
acceptable/unacceptable for nomination
********************************************************

Definitions are listed alphabetically. Both proposed Adware definitions
are shown. Select acceptable or unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the choices you agree with. REMOVE choices you do not wish to vote
for. REMOVE both choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

is not acceptable for nomination

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*

is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)

is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)

is not acceptable for nomination

Betaware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Case by case. Normally not acceptable.

CDWare

is not acceptable for nomination

Commercial Software

is not acceptable for nomination

Crippleware

is not acceptable for nomination

Demo-ware

is not acceptable for nomination

Donationware
is acceptable for nomination

Freeware
is acceptable for nomination [We *need* a vote here?]

Liteware
is acceptable for nomination

Malware

is not acceptable for nomination

[We *need* a vote here?]

Nagware

is not acceptable for nomination

Registerware
is acceptable for nomination
is not acceptable for nomination

Register *once* is acceptable.

Requestware
is acceptable for nomination

Shareware

is not acceptable for nomination [We *need* a vote here?]
Spyware

is not acceptable for nomination [We *need* a vote here?]
Trialware

is not acceptable for nomination

Warez

is not acceptable for nomination [We *need* a vote here?]

************************************
3) Opinion Poll: On Topic - Off Topic
************************************

alt.comp.freeware is an unmoderated newsgroup. The opinion poll lets
newsgroup participants express their views on the type of software they
*prefer* to see discussed. A summary of this poll will be shown on the
ACF web pages.

Both proposed Adware definitions are shown. Select acceptable or
unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the opinion that you agree with. REMOVE the other choices. REMOVE
all choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

---------

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*

c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*

e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)

c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss [must be non spyware]

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)

c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss [must be non spyware]

Betaware

a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

CDWare

d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Commercial Software

d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Crippleware

e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Demo-ware

e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Donationware

a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Freeware

a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Liteware

a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Malware

e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Nagware

d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Registerware

a) on-topic - always okay to discuss [register once]

e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed [registration must be continually renewed to use the program]

Requestware

a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Shareware

d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Spyware

e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Trialware

e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Warez

e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

 

[Dewey Edwards]

I think we are not in a hurry, yet. So I put it up to the group that both
'definitions' of adware proposed are in fact linguistic tautologies. ;-)
(They 'define' a word with a variety of itself...)

Actually, the definitions are very different.

To be not only destructive I post another suggestion, which I derived from
a proposal I set last year:

Adware: Software that displays or outputs promotional information for
any other version, product or service outside its help system.

Doesn't cover
" Adware: Software that displays advertising."

I prefer

Adware: Software that displays or outputs promotional information
for any other version, product or service, or outputs *any*
promotional information which in the normal course of use of the
program, would be sent to others.

I don't have a problem with your adding your caveat about the
program's help system.

 

[B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson]

On Sat, 7 May 2005 08:35:21 +0200, "B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson"


Doesn't cover
" Adware: Software that displays advertising."

I prefer

Adware: Software that displays or outputs promotional information
for any other version, product or service, or outputs *any*
promotional information which in the normal course of use of the
program, would be sent to others.

I see what you mean. Because of last years discussion I intentionally
left *pure* self-promotion. (It would have been 'for itself, any other
version, product or service'). Following a broader definition, last year
some programs nearly got fired from PWL for innocently mentioning a bit
more information than their name. (Like a web address for contacts.)
I certainly don't like *that*.

Maybe a second sentence on my definition could deal with such cases:

'Self-promotion *may* classify a program as Adware, especially if done
obtrusive.'

That way we (hopefully) can prevent the over-reactions which might
occur following your proposal. ;-) Every single case would need
investigation and can result in endless disagreements, though...

BeAr

 

[Susan Bugher]

I think we are not in a hurry, yet. So I put it up to the group that both
'definitions' of adware proposed are in fact linguistic tautologies. ;-)
(They 'define' a word with a variety of itself...)

To be not only destructive I post another suggestion, which I derived from
a proposal I set last year:

Adware: Software that displays or outputs promotional information for
any other version, product or service outside its help system.

Let's see if someone else likes it. (Or follows up with yet another one.)

Hi BeAr,

This is a *voting* thread. Alternate Adware definitions can be discussed
in the [PL] Ware Glossary - Annual Review thread.

We need to know the *type* of Adware definition we are striving for -
there is a great divide - is it only "paid" advertising or does it
include "self" advertising? To date discussion hasn't given us the
answer - there has not been enough participation.

I hope many people will participate in this poll. As you said - we're
not in a hurry. The exact wording of the Adware definition can be
discussed and agreed upon when the *direction* is clear.

Susan
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[David]

5/6/2005 There is no voting deadline in this poll. It will remain open
as long as people are casting ballots.

The ACF Ware Glossary is here:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/WareGlossary.php

There are three parts to the poll:

1) revisions to the ware glossary
2) acceptable/unacceptable for PL2006
3) On Topic - Off Topic for newsgroup discussion

Note: Proposed revisions to the ACF Ware Glossary that might reclassify
Pricelessware 2005 programs as Adware will take affect in January 2006.
(The Pricelessware 2006 selection process will use the revised Ware
Glossary definitions.)


******************************************
1) ACF Ware Glossary - Proposed revisions
******************************************

LEAVE the definition you prefer. REMOVE definitions you do not wish to
vote for. REMOVE both choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

--------------

--------------

(existing)
Freeware: Legally obtainable software that you may use at no cost,
monetary or otherwise, for as long as you wish.

-------

(proposed)
Registerware: you must provide personal information via registration in
order to download and/or use the program. (Registerware may require
re-registration for continued use after a period of time has elapsed,
before reinstallation etc. etc.)


********************************************************
2) Pricelessware 2006 Selection Procedures -
acceptable/unacceptable for nomination
********************************************************

Definitions are listed alphabetically. Both proposed Adware definitions
are shown. Select acceptable or unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the choices you agree with. REMOVE choices you do not wish to vote
for. REMOVE both choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

---------

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
is not acceptable for nomination

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
is not acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
is acceptable for nomination

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
is not acceptable for nomination

Betaware
is not acceptable for nomination

CDWare

Commercial Software
is not acceptable for nomination

Crippleware
is not acceptable for nomination

Demo-ware
is not acceptable for nomination

Donationware
is acceptable for nomination

Freeware
is acceptable for nomination

Liteware
is acceptable for nomination

Malware
is not acceptable for nomination

Nagware
is not acceptable for nomination

Registerware
is acceptable for nomination

Requestware

Shareware
is not acceptable for nomination

Spyware
is not acceptable for nomination

Trialware
is not acceptable for nomination

Warez
is not acceptable for nomination


************************************
3) Opinion Poll: On Topic - Off Topic
************************************

alt.comp.freeware is an unmoderated newsgroup. The opinion poll lets
newsgroup participants express their views on the type of software they
*prefer* to see discussed. A summary of this poll will be shown on the
ACF web pages.

Both proposed Adware definitions are shown. Select acceptable or
unacceptable for both definitions.

LEAVE the opinion that you agree with. REMOVE the other choices. REMOVE
all choices if you do not wish to express an opinion.

---------

Abandonware and Orphanware *non-Warez*
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Abandonware and Orphanware *Warez*
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Adware (Software that displays advertising.)
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Adware (Software that displays advertising for products and/or services
produced by others.)
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Betaware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

CDWare

Commercial Software
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Crippleware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Demo-ware
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Donationware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Freeware
a) on-topic - always okay to discuss

Liteware
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)

Malware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Nagware
d) off-topic - brief mention sometimes okay (for comparison etc.)
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Registerware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Requestware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Shareware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Spyware
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

Trialware
c) ???-topic - sometimes okay to discuss

Warez
e) off-topic - discuss only when a warning is needed

**********************

 

[B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson]

This is a *voting* thread. Alternate Adware definitions can be discussed
in the [PL] Ware Glossary - Annual Review thread.

Don't call it 'and opinion' than. ;-) The Annual Review thread is
not within a part of my newsreader, anymore, where I would recognize
it. Btw.: Why did you start a *ballot* at this time at all??

I hope many people will participate in this poll. As you said - we're
not in a hurry. The exact wording of the Adware definition can be
discussed and agreed upon when the *direction* is clear.

Huh? You just initiated a ballot: to get different opinions -> to start a
discussion -> to have enough opinions to select some to vote on -> to
start the next ballot -> to... Or did I miss something?!! ;-)

Laughing,
BeAr

 

[Mel]

On Sat, 07 May 2005 14:39:31 GMT, Susan Bugher wrote:

This is a *voting* thread. Alternate Adware definitions can be discussed
in the [PL] Ware Glossary - Annual Review thread.

Don't call it 'and opinion' than. ;-) The Annual Review thread is
not within a part of my newsreader, anymore, where I would recognize
it. Btw.: Why did you start a *ballot* at this time at all??

I hope many people will participate in this poll. As you said - we're
not in a hurry. The exact wording of the Adware definition can be
discussed and agreed upon when the *direction* is clear.

Huh? You just initiated a ballot: to get different opinions -> to start a
discussion -> to have enough opinions to select some to vote on -> to
start the next ballot -> to... Or did I miss something?!! ;-)

Laughing,
BeAr

Are dog and pony shows suppose to be funny?

Ad-supported client - A definition

An Ad-supported client is any software application in which
advertisements are displayed while the program is running. The authors
of these applications include additional code that delivers the ads,
which can be viewed through pop-up windows or through a bar that appears
on a computer screen. The justification for ad-supported client is that
it helps recover programming development cost and helps to hold down the
cost for the user.

Adware - A definition

Adware is any software application which displays advertisements while
the program is running.

Foistware - A definition

Foistware is software which is installed with completely unrelated
programs. That means that there is no particular property in the
software that makes it Foistware, but rather the context in which it was
installed.

Example of foistware:
An Internet Explorer search toolbar bundled with a MP3 player.
An anti-virus program bundled with a word processor.

Developers of free sofware with large distribution sometimes get paid to
bundle unrelated software with their software. The Foistware in most
cases mentioned in the End User License Agreement. Example of software
that include unrelated software is Kazaa, iMesh, BikiniDesk, etc.

Spyware - A definition

"Spyware is ANY SOFTWARE which employs a user's Internet connection in
the background (the so-called "backchannel") without their knowledge or
explicit permission. Silent background use of an Internet "backchannel"
connection MUST BE PRECEDED by a complete and truthful disclosure of
proposed backchannel usage, followed by the receipt of explicit,
informed, consent for such use. ANY SOFTWARE communicating across the
Internet absent these elements is guilty of information theft and is
properly and rightfully termed: Spyware."

 

[Kurt]

B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson wrote in

Thanks. ;-)

YW


Just to clarify my classification of the definition: The term
Adware does not stem from 'software carrying additional things',
but from 'advertising supported software' (like Wikipedia put it
short and precise, IMHO).

There is noting wrong with a short, precise definition at all. But too
many times, people try to make things too short and lose the precision
of the language. People assume that you know what you are stating in a
sentence without realizing that what they state must interpreted based
on a commonality of experience. Unfortunately, such commonalities are
almost as rare as that oh so elusive thing called common sense.

Surprisingly, Adware is a rather old term. A quick Google search
revealed one of the earliest Usenet posts on that theme:

IIRC, I first heard it used in 1995.

Message-ID: <[email protected]>

It is from 1987!

Wow! Ancient by Internet standards indeed.

 

[Susan Bugher]

B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson wrote:

I'll post a response in the discussion thread.

Susan
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[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

"B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson" <[email protected]>

I think we are not in a hurry, yet. So I put it up to the group
that both 'definitions' of adware proposed are in fact linguistic
tautologies. ;-) (They 'define' a word with a variety of
itself...)

True, but these ware definitions for apps are IMO just labels,
shorthand so entire phrases don't have to be typed out again and again
when referring to them. As such, I don't see a problem with the word
"advertising" being at the core of the definition for adware.

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

I'm assuming that "displays" includes the output.

I don't know, and I'm the one who proposed that definition. I also
proposed this one, an attempt to excluded programs that tag their
output with ads:

Adware: Software which displays advertising while it is running.

AFAICT, that one is not included in this poll because it would create
some problem WRT current pricelessware.

 

[Vic Dura]

Adware: Software that displays or outputs promotional information for
any other version, product or service outside its help system.

Let's see if someone else likes it. (Or follows up with yet another one.)

I like it.