Pinnacle Studio and WinDV freeze up after long idle period, can'teven end with Task Manager

[Doc]

Have run into an odd problem I've never encountered before. Under an
install of XP Pro SP3, I find that if Pinnacle Studio 9 sits idle for
a long period ("long" being undetermined at this point) I find it
freezes up and can neither use it or close it down, even with Task
Manager. Have to hit the reset button and reboot. Have never
encountered this before. As it so happens this is the only machine
running XP pro I've had it on, had it on XP Home and Media Center
before this. When it's working initially it works fine. Will capture,
edit, make a DVD.

I thought it might be an issue with Pinnacle so I loaded WinDV but am
finding the same issue, so it seems it's related to whatever
commonality there is between them.

The other thing I notice is the machine falls into a state where it
shows 50% use of the processor on a Core2 Duo system.

Anyone else encountered this and found a way around it?

Thanks.

 

[Brian]

Have run into an odd problem I've never encountered before. Under an
install of XP Pro SP3, I find that if Pinnacle Studio 9 sits idle for
a long period ("long" being undetermined at this point) I find it
freezes up and can neither use it or close it down, even with Task
Manager. Have to hit the reset button and reboot. Have never
encountered this before. As it so happens this is the only machine
running XP pro I've had it on, had it on XP Home and Media Center
before this. When it's working initially it works fine. Will capture,
edit, make a DVD.

I thought it might be an issue with Pinnacle so I loaded WinDV but am
finding the same issue, so it seems it's related to whatever
commonality there is between them.

The other thing I notice is the machine falls into a state where it
shows 50% use of the processor on a Core2 Duo system.

Anyone else encountered this and found a way around it?

Thanks.

It sounds like your computer is going into sleep mode. You may have to
check the BIOS settings on your computer. It could be that the hard
drives are powering down into standby mode and are failing to wake up,
it's also a energy saving mode, especially if you have Green Western
Digital hard drives on your computer. Most of this can be fixed by
finding the standby (or power saver) settings in your bios and
changing them so the computer does not go into standby mode.

I'd also suggest closing down programs running in the background that
you don't need. If a program in the background pop's up a window
wanting the user to click on a button in the window then this can
cause the computer to appear to lock up. The pop-up window can be
hidden by the screen of Pinnacle Studio.

Most video editors use space on the hard drive when writing temporary
files such as partly rendering a video. Make sure you have enough hard
disc space and enough computer memory. Check the minimum requirements
for Pinnacle Studio. Also check for Pinnacle Studio updates.

Regards Brian

 

[Doc]

It sounds like your computer is going into sleep mode. You may have to
check the BIOS settings on your computer. It could be that the hard
drives are powering down into standby mode and are failing to wake up

I don't think so, I can bring up and use other apps which of course
require the involvement of the C drive, these just get frozen.

 

[ushere]

take the cover off and check to see if cpu, psu and all other fans are
free and clear of dust.
sounds like cutting out due to overheating.

 

[GMAN]

It sounds like your computer is going into sleep mode. You may have to
check the BIOS settings on your computer. It could be that the hard
drives are powering down into standby mode and are failing to wake up,
it's also a energy saving mode, especially if you have Green Western
Digital hard drives on your computer. Most of this can be fixed by
finding the standby (or power saver) settings in your bios and
changing them so the computer does not go into standby mode.

No, the slowdown sounds more like the "Intel Speedstep technology" kicking in

http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/cs-028855.htm


The crashing is due to the fact that Pinnacle 9 and just about every other
version of Pinnacle has been buggy as hell.

They are already at 14 with 15 comeing shortly.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

No, the slowdown sounds more like the "Intel Speedstep technology" kicking in

http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/cs-028855.htm


The crashing is due to the fact that Pinnacle 9 and just about every other
version of Pinnacle has been buggy as hell.

They are already at 14 with 15 comeing shortly.

I agree, in a sense: I gave up on Pinnacle somewhere around version 8,
so I can't report from any direct experience with later versions - and I
like it that way

 

[Bob CP]

I agree, in a sense: I gave up on Pinnacle somewhere around version 8,
so I can't report from any direct experience with later versions - and I
like it that way

For me, Pinnacle became more-or-less usable around V9.5. It seems like
there is no Beta testing except by people who actually buy the product,
so it takes about 9 months for them to get something stable... I'm
using Sony Vegas now, with about 1% of the crashes.

 

[Brian]

The crashing is due to the fact that Pinnacle 9 and just about every other
version of Pinnacle has been buggy as hell.

They are already at 14 with 15 comeing shortly.

After all these years Pinnacle is still buggy. I remember people
having problems with Pinnacle crashing on this newsgroup a long time
ago.

Regards Brian

 

[gargoyle60]

After all these years Pinnacle is still buggy. ...
... Pinnacle crashing

I have often had Pinnacle fail writing DVD data jobs, only slightly less fragile than Nero.
This only happened when I used Imation DVD-RW discs, other DVD discs seem to work fine, so I'm
assuming it was the media rather than Pinnacle. Still a pain though.

 

[choro]

I have often had Pinnacle fail writing DVD data jobs, only slightly less fragile than Nero.
This only happened when I used Imation DVD-RW discs, other DVD discs seem to work fine, so I'm
assuming it was the media rather than Pinnacle. Still a pain though.

Pain where? ;-)

And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than
Nero". I used Nero for donkey's years and it never ever let me down.

Using Roxio now with my new Win7 machine. Haven't decided whether it is
equally as good as Nero yet. I doubt that it is better than Nero as Nero
never let me down, as I've already pointed out.

Know nothing about Pinnacle though as I've never used it.

 

[gargoyle60]

And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than
Nero".

....in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to write, even though the discs
passed all the analysis tests according to some of the Nero tools/utilities.

Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it sometimes cannot perform a full
erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

 

[Patok]

...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
some of the Nero tools/utilities.

Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

My God, someone actually still uses those? [>

Duh. What do *you* use?

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
some of the Nero tools/utilities.

Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

My God, someone actually still uses those? [>

Duh. What do *you* use?

I use cork disks for my beer glasses. The CD-RWs have a hole, so the
table-top can get wet.

 

[Brian]

And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
some of the Nero tools/utilities.

Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

My God, someone actually still uses those? [>

Duh. What do *you* use?

I use cork disks for my beer glasses. The CD-RWs have a hole, so the
table-top can get wet.

Someone should write a book on the uses of faulty DVD/CD discs.
Has anyone found a use for the containers that blank discs come in?

Regards Brian

 

[Patok]

And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
some of the Nero tools/utilities.

Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}

Duh. What do *you* use?

I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? And then of course I misread
your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it
was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Voltaire wrote:

And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
some of the Nero tools/utilities.

Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
Duh. What do *you* use?

I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? And then of course I misread
your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it
was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

--

I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.
Swapping videos can be done better using memory cards that are more
reliable, quicker and cheaper if you consider they are reusable and
the time it takes for a burn. My Netbook only has a slot for SD card.
I have never missed not having a CD/DVD drive. Most of my video
content is uploaded to YouTube in high def. I watch Blu-Ray on my
desktop player with 3-D coming next. Now if we can convince the
viewers of the wedding events and such to go memory card the world
will be a much better place to view.

OTOH, you'd have to also convince a certain 95-yr old friend of mine as
well.

She still has and uses a VCR...But she has a BD player too (a gift from
her daughter).

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
some of the Nero tools/utilities.

Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}

Duh. What do *you* use?

I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

([:>}

LOL

But I bet the real reason was all the people that kept asking "Do you
like me, or is that a CD-RW in your pocket?"...

 

[pjp]

Voltaire wrote:
Voltaire wrote:

And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than
Nero".

...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail
to
write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according
to
some of the Nero tools/utilities.

Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
Duh. What do *you* use?

I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? And then of course I
misread
your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in
fact it
was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

--

I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.
Swapping videos can be done better using memory cards that are more
reliable, quicker and cheaper if you consider they are reusable and
the time it takes for a burn. My Netbook only has a slot for SD card.
I have never missed not having a CD/DVD drive. Most of my video
content is uploaded to YouTube in high def. I watch Blu-Ray on my
desktop player with 3-D coming next. Now if we can convince the
viewers of the wedding events and such to go memory card the world
will be a much better place to view.

OTOH, you'd have to also convince a certain 95-yr old friend of mine as
well.

She still has and uses a VCR...But she has a BD player too (a gift from
her daughter).

Still have and play thru quality all separate components stereo, cassettes,
reel-to-reel, vinyl, cd, dvd and pc which gives access to thumbdrives etc.
All interconnected with tv and a vcr-dvd combo, dvd recorder, 2 game console
units and another pc also tied in.

 

[Brian]

Voltaire wrote:

And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
some of the Nero tools/utilities.

Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
Duh. What do *you* use?

I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? And then of course I misread
your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it
was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

--

I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.

It will be a whole before DVD's become obsolete as video hire places
have invested a lot of money in buying DVD's for rent. Unless you can
get good traffic flow on the internet then renting a video by
downloaded it takes time and you might have a limit on how much data
you can download. Rented downloads are not likely to be in Blu-Ray
quality and some may be in lower quality than DVD to have a smaller
file to download. Also 5.1 sound, subtitles and special features could
be missing.

Maybe oneday your take your media into a movie hire place and they
will dump some movies of your choice onto your media for a hire cost.
There will be a time limit put on the media so that it expires on a
certain date.

Regards Brian

 

[Brian]

Voltaire wrote:
Voltaire wrote:

And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
some of the Nero tools/utilities.

Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
Duh. What do *you* use?

I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? And then of course I misread
your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it
was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

--

I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.
Swapping videos can be done better using memory cards that are more
reliable, quicker and cheaper if you consider they are reusable and
the time it takes for a burn. My Netbook only has a slot for SD card.
I have never missed not having a CD/DVD drive. Most of my video
content is uploaded to YouTube in high def. I watch Blu-Ray on my
desktop player with 3-D coming next. Now if we can convince the
viewers of the wedding events and such to go memory card the world
will be a much better place to view.

OTOH, you'd have to also convince a certain 95-yr old friend of mine as
well.

She still has and uses a VCR...But she has a BD player too (a gift from
her daughter).

She;s doing well as some people that age have difficuly in
understanding electronic devices. I had trouble teaching my 79 year
old mother how to operate a VCR and DVD recorder. She have a lot of
trouble in learning how you moved the cursor to select video from the
menu. She could operate a TV with a remote control.

Regards Brian