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Sanford Aranoff
What do you think of PC TuneUP for $50 or CCleaner for free?
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Alias
Sanford said:What do you think of PC TuneUP for $50 or CCleaner for free?
CCleaner is just fine as long as you stay away from the registry fixer.
You can configure it to not nuke cookies and a few other features.
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Big_Al
Sanford Aranoff said this on 5/24/2010 1:40 PM:
I can only comment on CCleaner. I use it all the time. I like it.
You can select exactly what you want (of the options you have) to clean.
You can exclude cookies by choice so you don't lose stored data from
websites, and not clean history if you wish.
I use the uninstall part a lot since it displays much faster than
add/remove in control panel.
Also the registry cleaner is kinda good, for registry cleaners. A lot
of people call them snake oil, but if used with a bit of caution or
discretion you are better off. I've done a full backup and then let it
rip and I've had no issues. Now that all of the suspected errors are
gone, the new ones are obvious, like shortcuts that did not remove
caused I moved them after install etc. It works for me.
What do you think of PC TuneUP for $50 or CCleaner for free?
I can only comment on CCleaner. I use it all the time. I like it.
You can select exactly what you want (of the options you have) to clean.
You can exclude cookies by choice so you don't lose stored data from
websites, and not clean history if you wish.
I use the uninstall part a lot since it displays much faster than
add/remove in control panel.
Also the registry cleaner is kinda good, for registry cleaners. A lot
of people call them snake oil, but if used with a bit of caution or
discretion you are better off. I've done a full backup and then let it
rip and I've had no issues. Now that all of the suspected errors are
gone, the new ones are obvious, like shortcuts that did not remove
caused I moved them after install etc. It works for me.
W
W****n S.
Sanford Aranoff said:What do you think of PC TuneUP for $50 or CCleaner for free?
It will also remove startup items that you have disabled so that it is a lot
cleaner there as well. "CC"
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I wouldn't bother with either one. I use WSE (Windows Security Essentials)
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
[Here we go again...]
If you ever think your Registry needs to be cleaned, repaired, boosted,
tuned-up, cured, tweaked, fixed, or optimized (it doesn't), read
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.
If you ever think your Registry needs to be cleaned, repaired, boosted,
tuned-up, cured, tweaked, fixed, or optimized (it doesn't), read
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.
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Db
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Ken Blake, MVP
What do you think of PC TuneUP for $50 or CCleaner for free?
I recommend staying far away from PC Tuneup and other programs like
that. CCleaner is a good program, as long as you don't use its
registry cleaning function.
Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.
Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
And also
http://blogs.technet.com/markrussin.../02/registry-junk-a-windows-fact-of-life.aspx
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peter
CCleaner for free..........just be very very carefull with the registry
cleaner and
dont use it if you dont know what your cleaning out.
Everything else works like a charm
peter
cleaner and
dont use it if you dont know what your cleaning out.
Everything else works like a charm
peter
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Twayne
In
Yes, here we go again: The closed minded idiots and closed minded dummies
who insist they are right in the face of millions of satisfied users and
mountains of evidence of the success of such things. That site he
references? Wrtten by one of "his" gang of cohorts amongst their silly
little group here who want to libel the companies that make such products.
He and his cohorts will lie and misinform to the very end even though most
any service shop makes good use of such tools and understands the realities
of "today".
The most interesting thing about these boobs is when you challenge them
to show some proof of their allegations, they point to the below useless
site or one other that exists which is the same thing, and call that proof.
They cannot even come close to describing the mechanism of their claims as
any professional or logical thinking person would be able to do.
HTH,
Twayne`
....
Boilerplate junk removed.
PA Bear said:[Here we go again...]
Yes, here we go again: The closed minded idiots and closed minded dummies
who insist they are right in the face of millions of satisfied users and
mountains of evidence of the success of such things. That site he
references? Wrtten by one of "his" gang of cohorts amongst their silly
little group here who want to libel the companies that make such products.
He and his cohorts will lie and misinform to the very end even though most
any service shop makes good use of such tools and understands the realities
of "today".
The most interesting thing about these boobs is when you challenge them
to show some proof of their allegations, they point to the below useless
site or one other that exists which is the same thing, and call that proof.
They cannot even come close to describing the mechanism of their claims as
any professional or logical thinking person would be able to do.
HTH,
Twayne`
....
Boilerplate junk removed.
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Twayne
Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group of closed minds
who wish to malign and libel the companies that have sold millions of
product to many, including those who repair computers and make good use of
same.
In
PCTuneup is actually not a bad program. It's not the best, but it's far from
the worst either. CCleaner is also good, and one of the less aggressive
registry cleaners, but has all the protection mechanisms such as Undo and so
on, that are needed.
If that were true, wouldn't you think there would be a lot of complaints
being lodged and sales would fall to nearly nothing? People aren't nearly
as stupid as this closed mind likes to think and I can personally attest to
the fact that no registry cleaner has EVER caused any of the problems this
closed mind likes to claim. I repair machines and often make use of the
registry cleaner for eliminating 20S pauses, unwieldly huge registries and
erroneous entries. The above para is an out and out lie perpetrated by a
small group of losers on this group.
Ask for any bona fide explanations and all you'll get are references to a
few people who blame anything they can for their problems or biased
self-serving sites such as are recommended below. I don't remove them from
here because a thinking person is going to make the connections themselves
and figure out what's up with these closed minded egotists. Only hundreds
of millions of people disagree with them; you'd think you'd hear about this
from a LOT more people than this tiny group acting like morons as they do.
But, they're the only source of such BS. Check their links and you'll see
what I mean. And blogs, being a dime a dozen these days, are some of the
worst places there are to get information from, especially when they're
no-names such as these folk.
Well, in over a decade it hasn't happened to me yet, or any of the hundreds
of machines I've used cleaners on, including my own when the need arises.
This is quite a group of miscreants, believe me, lol.
Mark, BTW, has rescinded his opinion of not needing registry cleaners. He's
quite cautious about their use, but he does say they are needed tools.
Besides, 2005 is so long ago that even if it were true at that time, there
would be nothing to say it's still true today; a LOT of progress in every
area that exists has been made. Mark R is a highly respected person in the
computer and www areas and often quoted by many thinking people.
If Mark R has anything to say that supports his claim, it would have a
lot more recent date than 2005; this dummy simply used it because it appears
to qualify his misinformation.
Actually, Mark is the one that got me to thinking about these things, long
before 2005, and I've researched the information a lot since those days.
Mark's blog is actually well worth reading for those who would like an
intelligent and verifiable sets of information. Unlike this local group of
dummies, Mark can back up what he says in almost every instance. Oh, and
he's smart enough to not only admit when he's wrong, but smart enough to say
so when there are unanswered questions asked.
I won't spar with you Ken, because I know you'll simply retort with a lot of
your double-talk and mindless so called information. I've made my point and
that's what I was interested in doing.
HTH,
Twayne`
who wish to malign and libel the companies that have sold millions of
product to many, including those who repair computers and make good use of
same.
In
Ken Blake said:I recommend staying far away from PC Tuneup and other
programs like that. CCleaner is a good program, as long as
you don't use its registry cleaning function.
PCTuneup is actually not a bad program. It's not the best, but it's far from
the worst either. CCleaner is also good, and one of the less aggressive
registry cleaners, but has all the protection mechanisms such as Undo and so
on, that are needed.
Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of
the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the
registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite
what many people think, and what vendors of registry
cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused
registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
If that were true, wouldn't you think there would be a lot of complaints
being lodged and sales would fall to nearly nothing? People aren't nearly
as stupid as this closed mind likes to think and I can personally attest to
the fact that no registry cleaner has EVER caused any of the problems this
closed mind likes to claim. I repair machines and often make use of the
registry cleaner for eliminating 20S pauses, unwieldly huge registries and
erroneous entries. The above para is an out and out lie perpetrated by a
small group of losers on this group.
Ask for any bona fide explanations and all you'll get are references to a
few people who blame anything they can for their problems or biased
self-serving sites such as are recommended below. I don't remove them from
here because a thinking person is going to make the connections themselves
and figure out what's up with these closed minded egotists. Only hundreds
of millions of people disagree with them; you'd think you'd hear about this
from a LOT more people than this tiny group acting like morons as they do.
But, they're the only source of such BS. Check their links and you'll see
what I mean. And blogs, being a dime a dozen these days, are some of the
worst places there are to get information from, especially when they're
no-names such as these folk.
The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner
erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than
any potential benefit it may have.
Well, in over a decade it hasn't happened to me yet, or any of the hundreds
of machines I've used cleaners on, including my own when the need arises.
This is quite a group of miscreants, believe me, lol.
Mark, BTW, has rescinded his opinion of not needing registry cleaners. He's
quite cautious about their use, but he does say they are needed tools.
Besides, 2005 is so long ago that even if it were true at that time, there
would be nothing to say it's still true today; a LOT of progress in every
area that exists has been made. Mark R is a highly respected person in the
computer and www areas and often quoted by many thinking people.
If Mark R has anything to say that supports his claim, it would have a
lot more recent date than 2005; this dummy simply used it because it appears
to qualify his misinformation.
Actually, Mark is the one that got me to thinking about these things, long
before 2005, and I've researched the information a lot since those days.
Mark's blog is actually well worth reading for those who would like an
intelligent and verifiable sets of information. Unlike this local group of
dummies, Mark can back up what he says in almost every instance. Oh, and
he's smart enough to not only admit when he's wrong, but smart enough to say
so when there are unanswered questions asked.
I won't spar with you Ken, because I know you'll simply retort with a lot of
your double-talk and mindless so called information. I've made my point and
that's what I was interested in doing.
HTH,
Twayne`
H
HeyBub
Big_Al said:Also the registry cleaner is kinda good, for registry cleaners. A
lot of people call them snake oil, but if used with a bit of caution
or discretion you are better off.
Exactly how are you better off?
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Unknown
Please provide us the source of the data that proves millions of sold
products.
You keep speaking of closed minds. Everyone who disagrees with you has a
closed mind?
I suggest you study your ego.
products.
You keep speaking of closed minds. Everyone who disagrees with you has a
closed mind?
I suggest you study your ego.
U
Unknown
InPA Bear said:[Here we go again...]
Yes, here we go again: The closed minded idiots and closed minded dummies
who insist they are right in the face of millions of satisfied users and
mountains of evidence of the success of such things.
What a bunch of emotional crap. 'Closed minded dummies' are really the
intelligent people
that 'know' of the risks of running registry cleaners. There is no mountain
of evidence of success
in running registry cleaners. Quite the opposite, as anyone following these
newsgroups knows.
There is far more damage running registry cleaners than benefits. Just
follow these newsgroups.
That site he references? Written by one of "his" gang of cohorts amongst
their silly little group here who want to libel the companies that make
such products.
Not libeling the companies that make such products (they of course do it for
money)
but telling it like it is. I.E. Registry cleaners are risky and can cause
serious problems with a computer.
Hogwash----ask any service shop owner. They know the risks and avoidHe and his cohorts will lie and misinform to the very end even though most
any service shop makes good use of such tools and understands the
realities of "today".
registry cleaners
in hopes of not having to re-install the OS.
Each and EVERY time a problem was described and pointed out on theseThe most interesting thing about these boobs is when you challenge them
to show some proof of their allegations, they point to the below useless
site or one other that exists which is the same thing, and call that
proof.
newsgroups
Twayne simply ignored. He didn't even have a comment.
And you of course are logical thinking??????They cannot even come close to describing the mechanism of their claims as
any professional or logical thinking person would be able to do.
Suppose you were to write a registry cleaner program, and in your
scanning of the registry you came upon 'xyzzyx'. How would you know if it
were
valid, an orphan, or an illegitimate item? Would you delete it? From where?
Is it any wonder you need five backups?
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Big_Al
HeyBub said this on 5/25/2010 9:25 AM:
The cleaner part is obvious, and the registry part is my feel good.
I've read enough to know the registry clean is not necessary, I used it
in a controlled condition with backup.
"I" feel better. That's how.Exactly how are you better off?
The cleaner part is obvious, and the registry part is my feel good.
I've read enough to know the registry clean is not necessary, I used it
in a controlled condition with backup.
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Bill in Co.
The term for this behavior is "projection": one projects onto others what
one denies lies within oneself (it's just a defense mechanism).
one denies lies within oneself (it's just a defense mechanism).
U
Unknown
By golly, I think you hit the nail on the head.
Bill in Co. said:The term for this behavior is "projection": one projects onto others what
one denies lies within oneself (it's just a defense mechanism).
U
Unknown
BTW-----How's the weather in Pueblo?
Bill in Co. said:The term for this behavior is "projection": one projects onto others what
one denies lies within oneself (it's just a defense mechanism).
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Bill in Co.
It's a bit warm (but at least it's a dry heat) here. How about over where
you are?
I don't think it's reached 90 or 100 today, which is nice.
you are?
I don't think it's reached 90 or 100 today, which is nice.
U
Unknown
Last couple of days, right at 90 degrees but will cool down this weekend..