papers & the Canon i950

[Judy Cosler]

Let me restate what I think I've learned here about papers & the i950.

1. there is a Canon paper which is 1) hard to find & 2) expensive
which produces good results.

2. Office Depot High gloss paper produces good results.

3. Red River paper(s) produce good results.

now, among those 3, is one better than another? From the standpoint
of stability over time (non-fading), is one better than another?

i'm assuming that it is a combination of the ink & the paper that
makes this another issue with printers.

I also notice that most of Red River's paper are for Epson printers.
Why is this?

I just bought a 75-sheet package of Kodak Ultima High Gloss. Will I
be able to use this with the i950?

TIA, Judy


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[buck]

Let me restate what I think I've learned here about papers & the i950.

1. there is a Canon paper which is 1) hard to find & 2) expensive
which produces good results.

2. Office Depot High gloss paper produces good results.

3. Red River paper(s) produce good results.

now, among those 3, is one better than another? From the standpoint
of stability over time (non-fading), is one better than another?

i'm assuming that it is a combination of the ink & the paper that
makes this another issue with printers.

I also notice that most of Red River's paper are for Epson printers.
Why is this?

I just bought a 75-sheet package of Kodak Ultima High Gloss. Will I
be able to use this with the i950?

TIA, Judy


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Im no expert on paper, but I do print a LOT of photos on
Canon, HP, and EPSON printers and I dont recommend KODAK
paper for any of them, it just doesn't look as good as a
lot of inexpensive stuff

A good all-around glossy photo paper is sold under the
name PRINTASIA for about $9.99 per 75 8.5x11" sheet box
if you can find it. (I get it at the local BJ's
Warehouse). I use it for finished 8x10" work and cut it
for 5x8 stuff and no customer has ever complained. For
4x6" I bite the bullet and buy HP 4x6 (with tab)

OFFICE MAX sells a house brand Glossy stock that doesn't
seem to allow the ink to EVER dry, it stays sticky for
EVER after printing, but at $9.00 a 100 8.5x11 sheet box
its cheap enought to cut up for proofs.

For Matte paper, I've never found anything better than
the Red River brand (they have a web site).

 

[Colonel Blip]

I use an s820 but from everything I've seen its characteristics re: paper
compatibility is the same as the i950. For my money you can't beat RR papers
on it (unless you find the OD on sale <g>). RR has periodic
clearances/seconds FWIW as well.

Personally I stay away from Kodak and HP.

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| Let me restate what I think I've learned here about papers & the i950.
|
| 1. there is a Canon paper which is 1) hard to find & 2) expensive
| which produces good results.
|
| 2. Office Depot High gloss paper produces good results.
|
| 3. Red River paper(s) produce good results.
|
| now, among those 3, is one better than another? From the standpoint
| of stability over time (non-fading), is one better than another?
|
| i'm assuming that it is a combination of the ink & the paper that
| makes this another issue with printers.
|
| I also notice that most of Red River's paper are for Epson printers.
| Why is this?
|
| I just bought a 75-sheet package of Kodak Ultima High Gloss. Will I
| be able to use this with the i950?
|
| TIA, Judy
|
|
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[OS]

Judy,

I normally use the Kodak premium picture paper with very good
results. By good results I mean that the pictures are virtually
undistinguishable from the originals. The trick is not to tell
the driver that you are using photo paper.

The following are the settings that I use.

Media Type: Plain Paper

Print Quality: custom
Quality: fine
Halftoning: Auto

Color Adjustment: Manual
Print Type: Photo
Brightness: Normal

If you set the media type to glossy photo paper, as most people
logically would, the results are going to be disappointing. I
wasn't satisfied either with the results when I used the
settings recommended by the Kodak folks on their web site.

Good luck



OS

 

[rs1011117]

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I normally use the Kodak premium picture paper with very good
results. By good results I mean that the pictures are virtually
undistinguishable from the originals. The trick is not to tell
the driver that you are using photo paper.

The following are the settings that I use.

Media Type: Plain Paper

Print Quality: custom
Quality: fine
Halftoning: Auto

Color Adjustment: Manual
Print Type: Photo
Brightness: Normal

If you set the media type to glossy photo paper, as most people
logically would, the results are going to be disappointing. I
wasn't satisfied either with the results when I used the
settings recommended by the Kodak folks on their web site.

Good luck

I've been puzzled because most people seem to get the best results with
Kodak
paper using the Kodak recommended Plain Paper setting. With my Canon
S-9000 I consistently get much better prints using the Glossy Paper setting
on
Kodak papers. I certainly agree with the others concerning Red River papers
which work fine for me. Once I use up my supply of Kodak papers I'll stick
to Red River.

Bob

 

[Judy Cosler]

anybody know how long prints on Kodak paper will stay unfaded?

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I've been puzzled because most people seem to get the best results with
Kodak
paper using the Kodak recommended Plain Paper setting. With my Canon
S-9000 I consistently get much better prints using the Glossy Paper setting
on
Kodak papers. I certainly agree with the others concerning Red River papers
which work fine for me. Once I use up my supply of Kodak papers I'll stick
to Red River.

Bob

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[Neil Maxwell]

anybody know how long prints on Kodak paper will stay unfaded?

No. If anybody tells you they do, they're guessing, unless they've
actually seen them fade. The fact is that the combo of ink, paper,
and environment have too many variables, and accelerated testing is
not very meaningful. None of the current inks have been in use for
more than a few years, if that. There is no solid data, plain and
simple. Any estimates of 10, 15, 25 years are guesses.

The only way to find out the lifetime of a particular combination is
to watch it until it starts to fade, and that only tells you about
that specific environment.


Neil Maxwell - I don't speak for my employer

 

[Wayne]

No. If anybody tells you they do, they're guessing, unless they've
actually seen them fade. The fact is that the combo of ink, paper,
and environment have too many variables, and accelerated testing is
not very meaningful. None of the current inks have been in use for
more than a few years, if that. There is no solid data, plain and
simple. Any estimates of 10, 15, 25 years are guesses.

I agree, the tests cannot be taken "for sure" but they show approx.
when will the prints fade. They may fade sooner or later. And the
estimates aren't guesses at all. The tests strongly depend on the
storage conditions - so if you store them correctly, you can get
around 25 years from your prints (Canon).

The only way to find out the lifetime of a particular combination is
to watch it until it starts to fade, and that only tells you about
that specific environment.

I don't agree. I am not planning to wait 100 years to see when the
prints from my 2200 will fade.

Wayne

 

[Wolf Kirchmeir]

On 11 Jul 2003 04:32:38 -0700, Wayne wrote:

=>I don't agree. I am not planning to wait 100 years to see when the
=>prints from my 2200 will fade.
=>
=>Wayne

Stick a test print in a south facing window, and see what happens.

Guy I talked to in Edmonton, a professional artist who sells laser printed
repros of his work, says he tried that with a standard lithograph (as
supplied by a professional printer) and a laser print. The lithograph started
to fade within six (!) weeks. The laser print was comparable to one stored in
the dark a year later. IMO that proves that laser prints are very very
durable. More durable than a print from a typical photo processor, which will
start to fade within a few weeks or months, too. Oh, yeah, this guy didn't
have kind words for any inkjet printer.

HTH

 

[JeffK.]

I've been to many museums that prohibit the use of flash on cameras for
exactly the same reason -- degradation of pigment -- and not just on
photographs. This included paintings and artifacts!

JeffK.