paging file too small

[ron]

hi everyone,
i had a problem with a netvista running 2000. it
would hang at various points. as a final attempt to get
it to work, i wiped it(?) then added it to another
netvista system, also running 2000, and used partition
manager to ghost the good system onto the bad one. i have
the key for the bad system and a diskette with software
that would enable me to change the key on the duplicated
drive back to its original key. after some hiccups that i
don't really remember now, the dup still hangs and now the
good drive gives me a message after i log in that my
paging file is too small. it tells me how to fix it, but
when i hit 'ok' the system reboots, bring me back to the
logon screen, then tells me the page file is too small.
how can i fix this? i really need to get this machine
working again (this one is mine, no one else uses it). i
don't want other people here using it since they tend to
leave shared files wide open and download all manner of
unacceptable items. thanks for your help.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

hi everyone,
i had a problem with a netvista running 2000. it
would hang at various points. as a final attempt to get
it to work, i wiped it(?) then added it to another
netvista system, also running 2000, and used partition
manager to ghost the good system onto the bad one. i have
the key for the bad system and a diskette with software
that would enable me to change the key on the duplicated
drive back to its original key. after some hiccups that i
don't really remember now, the dup still hangs and now the
good drive gives me a message after i log in that my
paging file is too small. it tells me how to fix it, but
when i hit 'ok' the system reboots, bring me back to the
logon screen, then tells me the page file is too small.
how can i fix this? i really need to get this machine
working again (this one is mine, no one else uses it). i
don't want other people here using it since they tend to
leave shared files wide open and download all manner of
unacceptable items. thanks for your help.

You have to consider yourself lucky that you managed
to get Win2000 started with your cloned disk. In most
cases this fails ab boot time.

To resolve your paging file problem, temporarily connect
a formatted disk as a slave dis. Some old 2 GByte disk
will do nicely. You can then set the correct size &
location for your paging file.

 

[ron]

-----Original Message-----



You have to consider yourself lucky that you managed
to get Win2000 started with your cloned disk. In most
cases this fails ab boot time.

To resolve your paging file problem, temporarily connect
a formatted disk as a slave dis. Some old 2 GByte disk
will do nicely. You can then set the correct size &
location for your paging file.

i hooked up a 6 gb slave, but after i log in the system
comes back to the logon screen. is there anything else i
can try? even safe mode comes back to the logon screen.
can anything be done at the command prompt? i didn't try
getting it to the command prompt.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

i hooked up a 6 gb slave, but after i log in the system
comes back to the logon screen. is there anything else i
can try? even safe mode comes back to the logon screen.
can anything be done at the command prompt? i didn't try
getting it to the command prompt.

Seeing that the soft approaches did not work, here is the
sledge hammer solution. It involves editing your registry
in off-line mode. You need to be very careful in doing this -
if you do the wrong thing then you could cripple your
machine permanently. Jot down what you do so that
you can undo it in an emergency.

1. Download a Linux registry editor disk from here:
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html
2. Boot with this boot disk.
3. Accept the suggested NT partition.
4. Accept the full path to the registry directory.
5. Type system
6. Type 9 (for Registry Editor)
7. Type ? (to see the available commands)
8. Type ls (to see the current keys)
9. Type cd ControlSet003 (it's case-sensitive!)
(or ControlSet002 if ControlSet003 does not exist)
10. Type cd Control
11. Type cd Session Manager
12. Type cd Memory Manager
13. Type type PagingFile
You can now see where the system expects your paging file to be.
14. Type edit PagingFile
15. Type C:\pagefile.sys 192 385
(or whatever is appropriate for you)
16. Type --n
17. Type type PagingFile
You should see your changes.
18. Type q
You will be prompted to save or discard your changes.

If you still cannot logon then the location of userinit.exe may be
incorrect. The key for it is stored here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/
Windows NT/Current Version/Winlogon/Userinit - it's supposed to
be c:\winnt\system32. You can use the above procedure to check
that key, and to modify it if necessary.

 

[ron]

-----Original Message-----



Seeing that the soft approaches did not work, here is the
sledge hammer solution. It involves editing your registry
in off-line mode. You need to be very careful in doing this -
if you do the wrong thing then you could cripple your
machine permanently. Jot down what you do so that
you can undo it in an emergency.

1. Download a Linux registry editor disk from here:
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html
2. Boot with this boot disk.
3. Accept the suggested NT partition.
4. Accept the full path to the registry directory.
5. Type system
6. Type 9 (for Registry Editor)
7. Type ? (to see the available commands)
8. Type ls (to see the current keys)
9. Type cd ControlSet003 (it's case-sensitive!)
(or ControlSet002 if ControlSet003 does not exist)
10. Type cd Control
11. Type cd Session Manager
12. Type cd Memory Manager
13. Type type PagingFile
You can now see where the system expects your paging file to be.
14. Type edit PagingFile
15. Type C:\pagefile.sys 192 385
(or whatever is appropriate for you)
16. Type --n
17. Type type PagingFile
You should see your changes.
18. Type q
You will be prompted to save or discard your changes.

If you still cannot logon then the location of userinit.exe may be
incorrect. The key for it is stored here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/
Windows NT/Current Version/Winlogon/Userinit - it's supposed to
be c:\winnt\system32. You can use the above procedure to check
that key, and to modify it if necessary.


.

my network will not allow me to access
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html but
i was able to download the ultimatebootcd which has the
pnordahl software. after editing the PagingFile from 192
384 to 300 384 the system still will not go past the
windows logon screen when the slave drive is still
installed. without the slave drive the system will still
give me the paging file error after i log in. i don't
understand how to get to HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Windows
NT/Current Version/Winlogon/Userinit with this editor (i
don't see HKLM anywhere). the really annoying part is
that the other drive that i copied this system drive to
will work fine in this system but the original drive
doesn't (and if i put the copied drive back into its
original case it will still hang at various points which
is why i did the drive copying in the first place). maybe
i should just use my universal tool on these systems. i
wonder if i can get my hammer past the security guards.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

my network will not allow me to access
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html but
i was able to download the ultimatebootcd which has the
pnordahl software. after editing the PagingFile from 192
384 to 300 384 the system still will not go past the
windows logon screen when the slave drive is still
installed. without the slave drive the system will still
give me the paging file error after i log in. i don't
understand how to get to HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Windows
NT/Current Version/Winlogon/Userinit with this editor (i
don't see HKLM anywhere). the really annoying part is
that the other drive that i copied this system drive to
will work fine in this system but the original drive
doesn't (and if i put the copied drive back into its
original case it will still hang at various points which
is why i did the drive copying in the first place). maybe
i should just use my universal tool on these systems. i
wonder if i can get my hammer past the security guards.

Copy userinit.exe from c:\winnt\system32 to \winnt\system32
on every other drive you have. You can do this by making the
other drives FAT32, or by temporarily installing them on some
other Win2000 PC as slave disks.

 

[ron]

-----Original Message-----



Copy userinit.exe from c:\winnt\system32 to \winnt\system32
on every other drive you have. You can do this by making the
other drives FAT32, or by temporarily installing them on some
other Win2000 PC as slave disks.


.

no luck. i took another w2k drive, set it up as master
and copied userinit.exe to the slave. took out the master
and rebooted. the other 6 gb slave is still installed.
the system got to the logon screen, i signed in, and it
returned to the logon screen. by the way, can that
pnordahl software be used on an nt workstation that will
not boot to get the registration key just in case i have
to reinstall from the beginning?

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

no luck. i took another w2k drive, set it up as master
and copied userinit.exe to the slave. took out the master
and rebooted. the other 6 gb slave is still installed.
the system got to the logon screen, i signed in, and it
returned to the logon screen. by the way, can that
pnordahl software be used on an nt workstation that will
not boot to get the registration key just in case i have
to reinstall from the beginning?

I know of three ways to find out a registration key:
- From the sticker attached to the case for the Win2000
installation CD;
- From the list of software registration keys that you
might maintain;
- By running the tool freely available from this link:
http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder.shtml
The tool requires Win2000 to be up and running.

One further remark about userinit.exe: You would get
the symptoms you currently observe if you had an
inappropriate permission structure on your disk. "Everyone"
must have read/write access to c:\winnt\system32. The
same applies to the root directory of C: (where your
paging file resides). You can view & set the permissions
while the disk runs as a slave somewhere else.

 

[ron]

you won't believe what happened. i booted up the original
drive with my partition manager dos diskette to look at
the partitions before copying the cloned drive back to the
original one. i ran the fix mbr thing and rebooted. it
came up with no problem. how annoying. its finally
done. thanks for all of your help. i learned a lot of
stuff (and now i have a copy of the ultimatebootcd to use
on other machines). thanks again. now i just need to get
the clone to stop freezing in its proper system.