P4P800 Wake on LAN problems...

[NewMan]

Damn, this WOL stuff is a pain in the neck...

I have a couple of computers with ASUS P4P800 mobos (plain old, not
deluxe, or s, or se...)

I can't get WOL to work.

I have downloaded and installed the latest beta BIOS, and enabled the
wake by PCI devices in the BIOS.

I have set the Windows settings to wake on Magic Packet, and set the
power management to "allow this device....".

What I have noticed is that my other system with the P4P800S - which
works - when it is powered down, the LAN connection as seen from the
back of the computer is ACTIVE, lights are blinking.

When I check the back of the computer with the P4P800 in it, the LAN
connection goes DARK when the computer is shut-down from Windows XP.

Just to make sure, I set the KBDPWR, and USBPWR jumpers to the "ON"
position, and tried again. No dice!

The only other difference between the systems is that the P4P800S is
using a PCI LAN card with the on-board LAN disabled, and the P4P800 is
using the built-in LAN.

I noted the LOTS of people had problems with this, but no one I could
find posted back a solution to the problem!

I welcome ALL ideas and suggestions, and I PROMISE to post back if
your advice corrects the problem!

Thanks!

 

[Paul]

Damn, this WOL stuff is a pain in the neck...

I have a couple of computers with ASUS P4P800 mobos (plain old, not
deluxe, or s, or se...)

I can't get WOL to work.

I have downloaded and installed the latest beta BIOS, and enabled the
wake by PCI devices in the BIOS.

I have set the Windows settings to wake on Magic Packet, and set the
power management to "allow this device....".

What I have noticed is that my other system with the P4P800S - which
works - when it is powered down, the LAN connection as seen from the
back of the computer is ACTIVE, lights are blinking.

When I check the back of the computer with the P4P800 in it, the LAN
connection goes DARK when the computer is shut-down from Windows XP.

Just to make sure, I set the KBDPWR, and USBPWR jumpers to the "ON"
position, and tried again. No dice!

The only other difference between the systems is that the P4P800S is
using a PCI LAN card with the on-board LAN disabled, and the P4P800 is
using the built-in LAN.

I noted the LOTS of people had problems with this, but no one I could
find posted back a solution to the problem!

I welcome ALL ideas and suggestions, and I PROMISE to post back if
your advice corrects the problem!

Thanks!

When there are no lights, it means the PHY interface on the
Ethernet chip is not powered, is being held in reset by the hardware,
or has been programmed to stay off. I see in Google, that people
have managed to get 3C940 to work, but no recipe was provided.

According to the manual, you cannot use Asus Instant Music feature
without that feature disabling the wakeup stuff.

A suggestion from Microsoft:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246821

AFAIK, the Windows ACPI code should own responsibility for
setting this up in hardware, before the machine is suspended.
When using ACPI, the BIOS has to "cooperate", by not messing
with the settings after Windows has programmed them.

If you can wake the machine from keyboard or USB, then it
sounds like a Windows settings problem.

http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76506&highlight=p4p800+3c940+wake
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95281&highlight=3c940+wake
(proof that OS is partially responsible...)
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57620&highlight=3c940+wake

I have seen a few reports of toasted 3C940, so complete
failures are another symptom for that chip.

One posting I read, suggests that for the 3C940 to be guaranteed
to WOL, from cold power off, it would need a serial EEPROM
connected to the side of it. Some LAN chips have the ability to
read a small private serial EEPROM chip, just after power is applied
to the chip. That is an option for the circuit design, which might
be provided on a stand alone 3C940 PCI LAN card, but is not done
on a motherboard. On a motherboard, the BIOS is responsible for
setting up the LAN chip, but of course the BIOS is not necessarily
alive to program the LAN chip after a power failure. And using the
BIOS "Restore on Power Loss" feature, to get the BIOS alive after
a power failure, is not exactly the same thing (I mean the machine
may end up booting that way). In any case, we are talking about
waking the 3C940 while in S3 standby, which you would hope, would
be easier to achieve.

Paul

 

[NewMan]

I decided to try this on my machine. I enabled the on-board LAN in my
P4P800S, which is a Realtek RTL8139.

The "stock" MS Drivers did not even have a setting to wake on
anything!

So I went to the RealTek site, and downloaded the latest OEM drivers
(6/13/2002). Now there is the following 3 options which I have set as
follows:

WakeUp on ARP/Ping - Enable
WakeUp on Link Change - Disable
WakeUp using APM Mode - Enable

And both "Allow this device to bring computer..." and "Allow
windows..." are selected.

The BIOS has the instant music feature Disabled,

And suspend is set as S1 (POS) Only

Wake by PCI devices is Enabled.

Power Button is set to "suspend".

And it does not matter what I do, the on-board NIC goes dark as soon
as the system is shut down.

I am also using the latest beta BIOS on this machine as well!

So now I am stuck! It seams that all the ASUS boards with on-board
NICs are having this problem. So what the heck am I doing wrong???
Especially when I can get this to work with a PCI based NIC!

HELP!

 

[Paul]

I decided to try this on my machine. I enabled the on-board LAN in my
P4P800S, which is a Realtek RTL8139.

The "stock" MS Drivers did not even have a setting to wake on
anything!

So I went to the RealTek site, and downloaded the latest OEM drivers
(6/13/2002). Now there is the following 3 options which I have set as
follows:

WakeUp on ARP/Ping - Enable
WakeUp on Link Change - Disable
WakeUp using APM Mode - Enable

And both "Allow this device to bring computer..." and "Allow
windows..." are selected.

The BIOS has the instant music feature Disabled,

And suspend is set as S1 (POS) Only

Wake by PCI devices is Enabled.

Power Button is set to "suspend".

And it does not matter what I do, the on-board NIC goes dark as soon
as the system is shut down.

I am also using the latest beta BIOS on this machine as well!

So now I am stuck! It seams that all the ASUS boards with on-board
NICs are having this problem. So what the heck am I doing wrong???
Especially when I can get this to work with a PCI based NIC!

HELP!

"WakeUp using APM Mode - Enable"

Try it with that setting disabled.

Paul

 

[NewMan]

That got it!

As soon as I set "WakeUp using APM Mode - Disable" in windows, my
P4P800S system will now respond to the magic packet again.

Interesting to note that the on-board LAN still appears to go dark. A
close examination show that the PCI NIC has two LEDs - a green and a
yellow, where the yellow shows active on power down. But the on-board
NIC only has a green LED which goes dark on dower down.

So, with my P4P800 system, this could be a windows driver issue!

I will check the 3com web site, and give it a try tomorrow.

Thanks for the help Paul, now stay tuned! I need to get those other
users up and running.

Cheers

 

[NewMan]

OK, so I stayed even later....

Downloaded the latest driver from the ASUS web site.

Original driver was V 1.0.0.42

ASUS current 1.0.0.46

Windows did NOT want to install it because it was not WHQL or
digitally signed.

I forced the situation, and reset to "Magic Packet".

WORKS!!!!!!!!

No problem.

But I will double check it tomorrow to make sure I was not dreaming.


What a pain in the neck.

Thanks again for the help.

 

[Paul]

OK, so I stayed even later....

Downloaded the latest driver from the ASUS web site.

Original driver was V 1.0.0.42

ASUS current 1.0.0.46

Windows did NOT want to install it because it was not WHQL or
digitally signed.

I forced the situation, and reset to "Magic Packet".

WORKS!!!!!!!!

No problem.

But I will double check it tomorrow to make sure I was not dreaming.


What a pain in the neck.

Thanks again for the help.

I bet you'll get a good night's sleep tonight, not having to
think about that again

Paul

 

[NewMan]

Ohhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhh.

I bet you'll get a good night's sleep tonight, not having to
think about that again

Paul