Ownership of Files and Folders

[Christopher McCulloch]

Heres the issue. I have my users "My Documents" folders
being redirected to my file server with exclusive rights
to the user so as nobody, not even myself can access the
folder or the files inside.

My instructor informed me that if I (the administrator)
take ownership of the folder that the user would get a
message stating that the ownership had been changed.

I have been testing this out and so far have not been able
to recreate a message to the user after I have taken
ownership.

The instructor also said that this has worked in the past
and might be an issue with service pack 4 (as this is the
first class to use SP4)

Any ideas are welcome, I'd like to figure this one out.

 

[Mike Mercogliano]

Never heard of this feature. How would the user receive a
message? Through a net send command. What happens if
they are not logged on? Again, no feature that I am aware
of.

-Mike

 

[SaltPeter]

Heres the issue. I have my users "My Documents" folders
being redirected to my file server with exclusive rights
to the user so as nobody, not even myself can access the
folder or the files inside.

My instructor informed me that if I (the administrator)
take ownership of the folder that the user would get a
message stating that the ownership had been changed.

Agreed, user should see a popup indicating change of ownership since the
user's folder doesn't inherit the parent folder's security and admin hasn't
the permission to read without the overide. It's how an NT based user folder
is kept private until the administrator overides ownership. The admin can't
give ownership away so user should receive feedback of ownership change upon
next user's access to folder.

I have been testing this out and so far have not been able
to recreate a message to the user after I have taken
ownership.

Have you examined the parent folder's ntfs security and the user folder's
security at server? Is inheritence disabled at user's folder? In folder's
security tab / Advanced button / uncheck Allow inheritable permissions.

The instructor also said that this has worked in the past
and might be an issue with service pack 4 (as this is the
first class to use SP4)

Don't tell me they are still having ntfs issues with SP4. Can anyone declare
that SP4 isn't duplicating this behaviour on their server(s)?

 

[SaltPeter]

Never heard of this feature. How would the user receive a
message? Through a net send command. What happens if
they are not logged on? Again, no feature that I am aware
of.

It's by design, an administrator can't give ownership away. The popup is not
a net message, it's something like a local AfxMessage() dialog put out by
the NTFS security manager at next access by user. The feature dates back to
early NT4. Since the admin can't even read the user's folder by default on a
properly designed ntfs document hierarchy, he or she must overide ownership
to gain access. It guarentees that the user's privacy to folder is asserted
but overideable.

 

[Christopher McCulloch]

According to her the next time the user opens the files
within that folder they are informed that the onwership
has been changed.