folder ownership rights etc.

[RJK]

XP Home edition in my main desktop PC.
"ALL IN 1 HDD Docking" station is attached by USB lead, and into it is plugged a 60gb 2.5 hard disk from a Toshiba L40 10x Vista Laptop, as a slave drive. ( drive L:\ ) ...need to get off Sage accounts v12 VAT records and some photos.

Immediately Ghosted it to internal 500gb drive in my main PC ( E:\ ), for safekeeping

Now I will copy selected folders fron the Toshiba drive to my main PC 500gb drive E:\ ?

How do I avoid "Permission denied" etc. .....how do I take ownership of the Vista folders, to do with user accounts ...Vista "users" etc ?

regards, Richard

Many thanks in advance

 

[John Wunderlich]

XP Home edition in my main desktop PC.
"ALL IN 1 HDD Docking" station is attached by USB lead, and into
it is plugged a 60gb 2.5 hard disk from a Toshiba L40 10x Vista
Laptop, as a slave drive. ( drive L:\ ) ...need to get off Sage
accounts v12 VAT records and some photos.

Immediately Ghosted it to internal 500gb drive in my main PC ( E:\
), for safekeeping

Now I will copy selected folders fron the Toshiba drive to my main
PC 500gb drive E:\ ?

How do I avoid "Permission denied" etc. .....how do I take
ownership of the Vista folders, to do with user accounts ...Vista
"users" etc ?

regards, Richard

Many thanks in advance

"How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP"
< http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421 >

HTH,
John

 

[RJK]

XP Home edition in my main desktop PC.
"ALL IN 1 HDD Docking" station is attached by USB lead, and into
it is plugged a 60gb 2.5 hard disk from a Toshiba L40 10x Vista
Laptop, as a slave drive. ( drive L:\ ) ...need to get off Sage
accounts v12 VAT records and some photos.

Immediately Ghosted it to internal 500gb drive in my main PC ( E:\
), for safekeeping

Now I will copy selected folders fron the Toshiba drive to my main
PC 500gb drive E:\ ?

How do I avoid "Permission denied" etc. .....how do I take
ownership of the Vista folders, to do with user accounts ...Vista
"users" etc ?

regards, Richard

Many thanks in advance

"How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP"
< http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421 >

HTH,
John

Many thanks, ...here goes !!!

 

[Mayayana]

Strangely, I don't see the original post. A search
tells me it was made yesterday, but I only see the
Re.

For an easy way to change permissions en masse
on an NTFS drive, see here:

http://www.jsware.net/jsware/nt6fix.php5

It's a civilized version of what Microsoft recommends
doing through 2 tedious command-line programs. The
link John Wunderlich posted is basically the same thing
done through Explorer, if one only needs to change 1 or
2 items. In all cases the method is the same: Running
as Admin. one "takes ownership" of an item, then
edits permissions. (An admin. has power to take ownership,
which confers power to change permissions, but an admin.
does not have power to change permissions per se. Sounds
ridiculous, I know, but that's how it works.)

I don't really understand the task. A plugged-in Vista OS
is imaged to E drive and then part of it is copied to E drive?
It doesn't seem to make sense, but maybe I misunderstood.
If it were me, before going any further, I'd make sure both
disks are mainly FAT32 data partitions, in order to avoid the
permissions problems. There's no reason for XP to be more
than about 5-10 GB, and no reason for Vista/7 to be more
than about 30-40 GB... that is, there's no reason to risk losing
data just because the OS is lost through malware or some
such. The data shouldn't be on C drive in the first place.

--
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| |
| > XP Home edition in my main desktop PC.
| > "ALL IN 1 HDD Docking" station is attached by USB lead, and into
| > it is plugged a 60gb 2.5 hard disk from a Toshiba L40 10x Vista
| > Laptop, as a slave drive. ( drive L:\ ) ...need to get off Sage
| > accounts v12 VAT records and some photos.
| >
| > Immediately Ghosted it to internal 500gb drive in my main PC ( E:\
| > ), for safekeeping
| >
| > Now I will copy selected folders fron the Toshiba drive to my main
| > PC 500gb drive E:\ ?
| >
| > How do I avoid "Permission denied" etc. .....how do I take
| > ownership of the Vista folders, to do with user accounts ...Vista
| > "users" etc ?
| >
| > regards, Richard
| >
| > Many thanks in advance
|
|
| "How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP"
| < http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421 >
|
| HTH,
| John

 

[Nil]

...(switching to top-posting ),

How about switching to "HTML Off"? Your posts are bloated to four times
their actual size with reams of unreadable unnecessary gunk, as you can
see below.

 

[Mayayana]

|
| How about switching to "HTML Off"? Your posts are bloated to four times
| their actual size with reams of unreadable unnecessary gunk, as you can
| see below.
|

Strange. I never use HTML. And I've never seen
my posts come out that way. It seems to be
something with your newsreader.

 

[Nil]

Strange. I never use HTML. And I've never seen
my posts come out that way. It seems to be
something with your newsreader.

It's not you, it's "RJK" and his Outlook Express settings. My
newsreader is not capable of adding HTML markup code where there is
none.

Your problem is not including an attribution line, which would have
made it clear who was responding to whose post.

 

[Mayayana]

| > Strange. I never use HTML. And I've never seen
| > my posts come out that way. It seems to be
| > something with your newsreader.
|
| It's not you, it's "RJK" and his Outlook Express settings. My
| newsreader is not capable of adding HTML markup code where there is
| none.
|

Maybe that's why I can't see his post. Perhaps
he's posting in HTML only? I see a Re that I replied
to, then I see you replying to me.

| Your problem is not including an attribution line, which would have
| made it clear who was responding to whose post.

Welcome to the 2oth century. That's why we have treeviews.

 

[Nil]

Maybe that's why I can't see his post. Perhaps
he's posting in HTML only? I see a Re that I replied
to, then I see you replying to me.

It looks like eternal-september has him filtered out, probably because
of the HTML.

Welcome to the 2oth century. That's why we have treeviews.

There's a reason attribution lines are used. Most people don't like
their words attributed to someone else. Making people guess who you're
responding to is guaranteed to cause confusion and misunderstanding,
and seems kind of rude to me. Tree views are a poor substitute and
don't always work, as you can see.

 

[RJK]

Oooh ! I always did keep my OE Tools | options | Send | News Sending Format
| radio button on "Plain text," ...when using MS NG's, ...and then MS
changed things around, or converted them to a web based interface etc., so
in order to continue in OE I put in MS's nntp bridge. I think I've only
ever stumbled onto these forums once or twice in using IE !!

regards, Richard

 

[RJK]

Hi Richard I'm assuming you're getting an "Access Denied" message. This
is how you take ownership in XP hope it will be the same for Vista never
liked Vista so I haven't done much with it.

First you must turn off *Simple File Sharing*, and then take ownership
of the folder:
1. Turn off Simple File Sharing:
a. Click *Start*, and then click *My Computer*.
b. On the *Tools* menu, click on *Folder Options*, and
then click on the *View* tab,
c. Under *Advanced Settings*, click to clear the *Use
simple file sharing (Recommended)* check box, then click *OK*

2. Right-click the folder that you want to take ownership of,
and then click *Properties,*
3. Click the *Security *tab, and then click *OK* on the
*Security* message, if one appears,

4. Click *Advanced*, and then click the *Owner* tab

5. In the *Name* list, click your user name, *Administrator
*if you are logged in as Administrator, or click the *Administrators*
group,

If you want to take ownership of the contents of that folder,
click to select the *Replace owner on subcontainers and objects *check
box,

6. Click *OK*,

You may recive the following error message, where -Folder-
is the name of the folder that you want to take ownership of:

You do not have permission to read the contents of
directory Folder. Do you want to replace the directory permissions with
permissions granting you full control? All permissions will be replaced
if you press Yes.

7. Click *Yes*
8, Click *OK*, and then reapply the permissions and security
settings that you want for the folder and the folder contents,

This information came from this link
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881 I wrote it all down in case
someone couldn't get to this link.

Hi, many thanks for your response. I did read through most of MS's pages on
how to do this but, in the end, after using Norton Ghost 14.0 to restore
selected directories from an entire backup of the Laptop hard disk - to the
same hard disk, (different directories to the one containing the Ghost
backup of course), in my main desktop PC, I discovered that the "Permission
Denied," message no longer appeared when using Windows File Explorer to look
at file listings in folders that had been restored ! So either Norton had
dealt with it, in flight, ...or the permissions were naturally set to the
computer user account in the PC to which they were being restored ...I
haven't any idea !!

During my wading through the aforementioned MS articles on how to take
ownership of files and folders using XP Home edition, I did spot that one
had to boot into Safe Mode, to get at the Security tab | Replace owner on
subcontainers and objects settings etc. ..and that booting into Safe Mode
was not required is using XP Professional, to acces those folder Properties
! ...I think.

many thanks,

Richard

 

[RJK]

Hi Richard I'm assuming you're getting an "Access Denied" message. This
is how you take ownership in XP hope it will be the same for Vista never
liked Vista so I haven't done much with it.

First you must turn off *Simple File Sharing*, and then take ownership
of the folder:
1. Turn off Simple File Sharing:
a. Click *Start*, and then click *My Computer*.
b. On the *Tools* menu, click on *Folder Options*, and
then click on the *View* tab,
c. Under *Advanced Settings*, click to clear the *Use
simple file sharing (Recommended)* check box, then click *OK*

2. Right-click the folder that you want to take ownership of,
and then click *Properties,*
3. Click the *Security *tab, and then click *OK* on the
*Security* message, if one appears,

4. Click *Advanced*, and then click the *Owner* tab

5. In the *Name* list, click your user name, *Administrator
*if you are logged in as Administrator, or click the *Administrators*
group,

If you want to take ownership of the contents of that folder,
click to select the *Replace owner on subcontainers and objects *check
box,

6. Click *OK*,

You may recive the following error message, where -Folder-
is the name of the folder that you want to take ownership of:

You do not have permission to read the contents of
directory Folder. Do you want to replace the directory permissions with
permissions granting you full control? All permissions will be replaced
if you press Yes.

7. Click *Yes*
8, Click *OK*, and then reapply the permissions and security
settings that you want for the folder and the folder contents,

This information came from this link
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881 I wrote it all down in case
someone couldn't get to this link.

Hi, many thanks for your response. I did read through most of MS's pages on
how to do this but, in the end, after using Norton Ghost 14.0 to restore
selected directories from an entire backup of the Laptop hard disk - to the
same hard disk, (different directories to the one containing the Ghost
backup of course), in my main desktop PC, I discovered that the "Permission
Denied," message no longer appeared when using Windows File Explorer to look
at file listings in folders that had been restored ! So either Norton had
dealt with it, in flight, ...or the permissions were naturally set to the
computer user account in the PC to which they were being restored ...I
haven't any idea !!

During my wading through the aforementioned MS articles on how to take
ownership of files and folders using XP Home edition, I did spot that one
had to boot into Safe Mode, to get at the Security tab | Replace owner on
subcontainers and objects settings etc. ..and that booting into Safe Mode
was not required is using XP Professional, to acces those folder Properties
! ...I think.

many thanks,

Richard

 

[Nil]

Oooh ! I always did keep my OE Tools | options | Send | News
Sending Format | radio button on "Plain text," ...when using MS
NG's, ...and then MS changed things around, or converted them
to a web based interface etc., so in order to continue in OE I put
in MS's nntp bridge. I think I've only ever stumbled onto these
forums once or twice in using IE !!

Thanks! I guess some newsreaders will display html, but many won't,
including mine. And as as can elsewhere in this thread, the html
will get your messages blocked from some news servers.