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Will Sutton

I have OE and am now receiving obscene amounts of spam
with Microsoft updates etc. These all have viruses but my AV
program stops these but I want to stop the messages. So
I have set up a filter that deletes any message with Microsoft or MS
in the subject . Problem is that it wont stop these messages so
does anyone know the problem or the solution ?
 
/Will Sutton/ said:
I have OE and am now receiving obscene amounts of spam
with Microsoft updates etc. These all have viruses but my AV
program stops these but I want to stop the messages. So
I have set up a filter that deletes any message with Microsoft or MS
in the subject . Problem is that it wont stop these messages so
does anyone know the problem or the solution ?

If these are "Messenger" pop-ups, they can be banished by enabling the XP
built-in firewall (which should be done anyway). See HELP & SUPPORT for
easy instructions.

If this is a program that has been inadvertently installed on your PC,
running ADAware may enable its removal. http://www.lavasoftusa.com
Read the instructions, download, install and run the program. The basic
utility is free. Or try Spybot from http://www.safer-networking.org/

If the pop-ups are site-related - the page that is being visited - then a
pop-up blocker may help. http://google.com Search for "ad blocker".
Or install and use a new-generation browser that has pop-up blocking,
such as the Mozilla suite from http://mozilla.org. Also has a built-in
news/mail client.

It will selectively block pop-ups and images, and is much more
customizable than I.E. For more, check in with these groups…

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/Will Sutton/ said:


If these are "Messenger" pop-ups, they can be banished by enabling the XP
built-in firewall (which should be done anyway). See HELP & SUPPORT for
easy instructions.

If this is a program that has been inadvertently installed on your PC,
running ADAware may enable its removal. http://www.lavasoftusa.com
Read the instructions, download, install and run the program. The basic
utility is free. Or try Spybot from http://www.safer-networking.org/

If the pop-ups are site-related - the page that is being visited - then a
pop-up blocker may help. http://google.com Search for "ad blocker".
Or install and use a new-generation browser that has pop-up blocking,
such as the Mozilla suite from http://mozilla.org. Also has a built-in
news/mail client.

It will selectively block pop-ups and images, and is much more
customizable than I.E. For more, check in with these groups…

sor
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Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails that have been faked
and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update , MS Internet Security
Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .

What I cant understand is why when you put in message rules that state the
message should be deleted if the subject contains Microsoft, MS etc wont
work ?
 
If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to the point where it's
really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service Provider and change
your email address. Then take steps to use safe email practices so that you
might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:

1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT account when registering
software, or any online registration where your email address is required.
Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail account address. Don't
use your real email address when posting to news groups. Addresses are
auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.

2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email addresses from the infected
PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the virus/worm itself. So,
if you understand how not to open unsolicited attachments, and what file
attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your system, and use a good
antivirus program and update your definitions frequently: If you have
people in your address book who don't practice the same safe email practices
that you do, when you get the hotmail email address, give those people your
hotmail email address.
 
I have a new email address but I also need the one been bombarded
for a while longer. The thing is the majority of the messages have either
"MS" or "Microsoft" in the heading yet the filters won't stop the email.
So if OE can't do the job what is a good freeware program that will.?



t.cruise said:
If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to the point where it's
really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service Provider and change
your email address. Then take steps to use safe email practices so that you
might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:

1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT account when registering
software, or any online registration where your email address is required.
Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail account address. Don't
use your real email address when posting to news groups. Addresses are
auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.

2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email addresses from the infected
PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the virus/worm itself. So,
if you understand how not to open unsolicited attachments, and what file
attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your system, and use a good
antivirus program and update your definitions frequently: If you have
people in your address book who don't practice the same safe email practices
that you do, when you get the hotmail email address, give those people your
hotmail email address.
--

T.C.
t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com
Remove [NoSpam] to reply


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Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails that have been faked
and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update , MS Internet Security
Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .

What I cant understand is why when you put in message rules that state the
message should be deleted if the subject contains Microsoft, MS etc wont
work ?
 
please ignore as I have found the right newsgroup to post in


Will Sutton said:
I have a new email address but I also need the one been bombarded
for a while longer. The thing is the majority of the messages have either
"MS" or "Microsoft" in the heading yet the filters won't stop the email.
So if OE can't do the job what is a good freeware program that will.?



t.cruise said:
If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to the point where it's
really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service Provider and change
your email address. Then take steps to use safe email practices so that you
might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:

1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT account when registering
software, or any online registration where your email address is required.
Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail account address. Don't
use your real email address when posting to news groups. Addresses are
auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.

2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email addresses from the infected
PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the virus/worm itself. So,
if you understand how not to open unsolicited attachments, and what file
attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your system, and use a good
antivirus program and update your definitions frequently: If you have
people in your address book who don't practice the same safe email practices
that you do, when you get the hotmail email address, give those people your
hotmail email address.
--

T.C.
t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com
Remove [NoSpam] to reply


Will Sutton said:
/Will Sutton/ said:

I have OE and am now receiving obscene amounts of spam
with Microsoft updates etc. These all have viruses but my AV
program stops these but I want to stop the messages. So
I have set up a filter that deletes any message with Microsoft or MS
in the subject . Problem is that it wont stop these messages so
does anyone know the problem or the solution ?

If these are "Messenger" pop-ups, they can be banished by enabling
the
XP
built-in firewall (which should be done anyway). See HELP & SUPPORT for
easy instructions.

If this is a program that has been inadvertently installed on your PC,
running ADAware may enable its removal. http://www.lavasoftusa.com
Read the instructions, download, install and run the program. The basic
utility is free. Or try Spybot from http://www.safer-networking.org/

If the pop-ups are site-related - the page that is being visited -
then
a
pop-up blocker may help. http://google.com Search for "ad blocker".
Or install and use a new-generation browser that has pop-up blocking,
such as the Mozilla suite from http://mozilla.org. Also has a built-in
news/mail client.

It will selectively block pop-ups and images, and is much more
customizable than I.E. For more, check in with these groups.

sor
s

Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails that have been faked
and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update , MS Internet Security
Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .

What I cant understand is why when you put in message rules that state the
message should be deleted if the subject contains Microsoft, MS etc wont
work ?
 
/Will Sutton/ said:
I have a new email address but I also need the one been bombarded
for a while longer. The thing is the majority of the messages have either
"MS" or "Microsoft" in the heading yet the filters won't stop the email.
So if OE can't do the job what is a good freeware program that will.?

The Mozilla suite. http://mozilla.org

I have three filters configured: a whitelist (or desired recipients); a
filter for a mailing list, and a blacklist - screening all html.

Virtually no unwanted mail gets through.

There is also automatic filtering that 'learns' what is and is not wanted.
 
yGreetings:

In the last month or so I have been receiving spam that is not only vulgar and disgusting, it is illegal!! No matter how many times I have removed form email from their list, nothing works. I do not know where these freaks get people's emails. I suppose where any other spammer would. And this mail is just shy of child pornagraphy. I have written to microsoft. No response.
Their must be something I can do. I want to report them, because if they are saying things such as "the "little girl" next door. I am sure they will show pedifiles where to go to see that horror!!!!
Please, help me.

Thank you
Moondove
--
"I am building a road along side the clouds...."
Lakhota Prayer


t.cruise said:
If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to the point where it's
really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service Provider and change
your email address. Then take steps to use safe email practices so that you
might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:

1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT account when registering
software, or any online registration where your email address is required.
Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail account address. Don't
use your real email address when posting to news groups. Addresses are
auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.

2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email addresses from the infected
PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the virus/worm itself. So,
if you understand how not to open unsolicited attachments, and what file
attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your system, and use a good
antivirus program and update your definitions frequently: If you have
people in your address book who don't practice the same safe email practices
that you do, when you get the hotmail email address, give those people your
hotmail email address.
--

T.C.
t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com
Remove [NoSpam] to reply


Will Sutton said:
Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails that have been faked
and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update , MS Internet Security
Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .

What I cant understand is why when you put in message rules that state the
message should be deleted if the subject contains Microsoft, MS etc wont
work ?
 
NEVER - use the opt-out option on emails, it's just a veiled
way to verify the address is valid/active. Opting out, just ends
up generating even more Spam.

Log in to your ISP's account management page. All or most
have server side Spam control. But in some cases you have
to enable or configure it.

Once an account is exposed or on Spammer's lists, the only
cure is to close that address and create a new one. Many are
reluctant to close long standing accounts. In that case get a
filtering application ( Norton Anti-Spam, MailWasher,etc)

Always "Munge" your address for newsgroup postings. This
stops/limits newsgroup harvesters from getting your address
from Usenet newsgroups. Munging adds characters or strings
to the address making it invalid. It usually is something that
clearly denotes a Munge like NoSpam or similar text.

Over 60% of all email traffic is now considered Spam.


Moondove said:
yGreetings:

In the last month or so I have been receiving spam that is not only vulgar
and disgusting, it is illegal!! No matter how many times I have removed
form email from their list, nothing works. I do not know where these
freaks get people's emails. I suppose where any other spammer would.
And this mail is just shy of child pornagraphy. I have written to
microsoft. No response.
Their must be something I can do. I want to report them, because if they
are saying things such as "the "little girl" next door. I am sure they
will show pedifiles where to go to see that horror!!!!
Please, help me.

Thank you
Moondove
--
"I am building a road along side the clouds...."
Lakhota Prayer


t.cruise said:
If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to the point where
it's
really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service Provider and change
your email address. Then take steps to use safe email practices so that
you
might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:

1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT account when
registering
software, or any online registration where your email address is
required.
Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail account address.
Don't
use your real email address when posting to news groups. Addresses are
auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.

2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email addresses from the
infected
PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the virus/worm itself.
So,
if you understand how not to open unsolicited attachments, and what file
attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your system, and use a
good
antivirus program and update your definitions frequently: If you have
people in your address book who don't practice the same safe email
practices
that you do, when you get the hotmail email address, give those people
your
hotmail email address.
--

T.C.
t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com
Remove [NoSpam] to reply


Will Sutton said:
/Will Sutton/ said:

I have OE and am now receiving obscene amounts of spam
with Microsoft updates etc. These all have viruses but my AV
program stops these but I want to stop the messages. So
I have set up a filter that deletes any message with Microsoft or
MS
in the subject . Problem is that it wont stop these messages so
does anyone know the problem or the solution ?

If these are "Messenger" pop-ups, they can be banished by enabling
the XP
built-in firewall (which should be done anyway). See HELP & SUPPORT
for
easy instructions.

If this is a program that has been inadvertently installed on your
PC,
running ADAware may enable its removal. http://www.lavasoftusa.com
Read the instructions, download, install and run the program. The
basic
utility is free. Or try Spybot from http://www.safer-networking.org/

If the pop-ups are site-related - the page that is being visited -
then a
pop-up blocker may help. http://google.com Search for "ad
blocker".
Or install and use a new-generation browser that has pop-up blocking,
such as the Mozilla suite from http://mozilla.org. Also has a
built-in
news/mail client.

It will selectively block pop-ups and images, and is much more
customizable than I.E. For more, check in with these groups.

sor
s

Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails that have been
faked
and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update , MS Internet
Security
Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .

What I cant understand is why when you put in message rules that state
the
message should be deleted if the subject contains Microsoft, MS etc
wont
work ?
 
Moondove this is a hugh problem and it seems to be getting worse. As you
know hackers can easily 'steal' your email address and make it seem as if
'you' have sent the original email. However, they have a very crafty way of
covering their tracks so it is not always possible to find out where the
email originated. The first thing you should 'never' do is click on the
unsubscribe link on the email or reply to the email. All that that does is
confirms that your email address is 'live' and this, then, gives the people
sedning the mail an ideal opportunity to flood you mail box.
You could try creating spam rules to prevent the files arriving in your
email box. Alternatively simply delete them without openning the mail at
all. You may also get a hint of where the mail is coming from by looking
carefully at the email header. Try looking at the reply address to see if it
looks genuine. Also look to see if and ISP name is available. Never complain
to the person who sent the email because you will get nowhere - well you
will probably get more email! Always complain the ISP. They control the mail
and can terminate the sender's agreement. If you are using hotmail lock it
down so that nothing gets through only the people in your contact list.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
www.freelanceit.glowinternet.net
Moondove said:
yGreetings:

In the last month or so I have been receiving spam that is not only vulgar
and disgusting, it is illegal!! No matter how many times I have removed
form email from their list, nothing works. I do not know where these
freaks get people's emails. I suppose where any other spammer would.
And this mail is just shy of child pornagraphy. I have written to
microsoft. No response.
Their must be something I can do. I want to report them, because if they
are saying things such as "the "little girl" next door. I am sure they
will show pedifiles where to go to see that horror!!!!
Please, help me.

Thank you
Moondove
--
"I am building a road along side the clouds...."
Lakhota Prayer


t.cruise said:
If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to the point where
it's
really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service Provider and change
your email address. Then take steps to use safe email practices so that
you
might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:

1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT account when
registering
software, or any online registration where your email address is
required.
Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail account address.
Don't
use your real email address when posting to news groups. Addresses are
auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.

2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email addresses from the
infected
PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the virus/worm itself.
So,
if you understand how not to open unsolicited attachments, and what file
attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your system, and use a
good
antivirus program and update your definitions frequently: If you have
people in your address book who don't practice the same safe email
practices
that you do, when you get the hotmail email address, give those people
your
hotmail email address.
--

T.C.
t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com
Remove [NoSpam] to reply


Will Sutton said:
/Will Sutton/ said:

I have OE and am now receiving obscene amounts of spam
with Microsoft updates etc. These all have viruses but my AV
program stops these but I want to stop the messages. So
I have set up a filter that deletes any message with Microsoft or
MS
in the subject . Problem is that it wont stop these messages so
does anyone know the problem or the solution ?

If these are "Messenger" pop-ups, they can be banished by enabling
the XP
built-in firewall (which should be done anyway). See HELP & SUPPORT
for
easy instructions.

If this is a program that has been inadvertently installed on your
PC,
running ADAware may enable its removal. http://www.lavasoftusa.com
Read the instructions, download, install and run the program. The
basic
utility is free. Or try Spybot from http://www.safer-networking.org/

If the pop-ups are site-related - the page that is being visited -
then a
pop-up blocker may help. http://google.com Search for "ad
blocker".
Or install and use a new-generation browser that has pop-up blocking,
such as the Mozilla suite from http://mozilla.org. Also has a
built-in
news/mail client.

It will selectively block pop-ups and images, and is much more
customizable than I.E. For more, check in with these groups.

sor
s

Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails that have been
faked
and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update , MS Internet
Security
Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .

What I cant understand is why when you put in message rules that state
the
message should be deleted if the subject contains Microsoft, MS etc
wont
work ?
 
In
Moondove said:
In the last month or so I have been receiving spam that is not only
vulgar and disgusting, it is illegal!! No matter how many times I
have removed form email from their list,


By "removed form email from their list," I assume you mean that
you replied to the message, choosing to "opt out" of their
messages.

That's the worst thing you could do. *Never* do this with spam.
It does nothing but confirm that they reached a valid address.

nothing works. I do not
know where these freaks get people's emails. I suppose where any
other spammer would. And this mail is just shy of child
pornagraphy. I have written to microsoft. No response.


Writing to Microsoft can't possibly help. They are not the
spammers and can't do anything to help you. That's like writing
to General Motors, complaining about the potholes on the road you
drive your Chevrolet on.


Their must
be something I can do. I want to report them, because if they are
saying things such as "the "little girl" next door. I am sure they
will show pedifiles where to go to see that horror!!!!


There are basically only two kinds of things you can do.

1. Use spam-filtering techniques or software on your computer or
switch to an ISP who has good spam-filtering software.

2. Change your E-mail address, and this time be much more careful
about who you give it you and what web-sites you enter it on.
 
Moondove said:
yGreetings:

In the last month or so I have been receiving spam that is not only
vulgar and disgusting, it is illegal!! No matter how many times I
have removed form email from their list, nothing works. I do not
know where these freaks get people's emails. I suppose where any
other spammer would. And this mail is just shy of child
pornagraphy. I have written to microsoft. No response. Their must
be something I can do. I want to report them, because if they are
saying things such as "the "little girl" next door. I am sure they
will show pedifiles where to go to see that horror!!!!
Please, help me.

Thank you
Moondove

1. NEVER opt-out. You just confirm a valid email address. Valid email
addresses are gold.

2. Pornography is not illegal, per se. Objectionable material is not illegal
either. It is that classified as "Obscene" that is illegal.

3. spamcop.net has a mechanism for "reporting" the spammer to his ISP.
Usually this does not good at all.
 
It's getting better not worse. Porn spam is decreasing and mortage spam (how boring) is increasing.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.counterpunch.org/bageant06132004.html
John Barnett MVP said:
Moondove this is a hugh problem and it seems to be getting worse. As you
know hackers can easily 'steal' your email address and make it seem as if
'you' have sent the original email. However, they have a very crafty way of
covering their tracks so it is not always possible to find out where the
email originated. The first thing you should 'never' do is click on the
unsubscribe link on the email or reply to the email. All that that does is
confirms that your email address is 'live' and this, then, gives the people
sedning the mail an ideal opportunity to flood you mail box.
You could try creating spam rules to prevent the files arriving in your
email box. Alternatively simply delete them without openning the mail at
all. You may also get a hint of where the mail is coming from by looking
carefully at the email header. Try looking at the reply address to see if it
looks genuine. Also look to see if and ISP name is available. Never complain
to the person who sent the email because you will get nowhere - well you
will probably get more email! Always complain the ISP. They control the mail
and can terminate the sender's agreement. If you are using hotmail lock it
down so that nothing gets through only the people in your contact list.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
www.freelanceit.glowinternet.net
Moondove said:
yGreetings:

In the last month or so I have been receiving spam that is not only vulgar
and disgusting, it is illegal!! No matter how many times I have removed
form email from their list, nothing works. I do not know where these
freaks get people's emails. I suppose where any other spammer would.
And this mail is just shy of child pornagraphy. I have written to
microsoft. No response.
Their must be something I can do. I want to report them, because if they
are saying things such as "the "little girl" next door. I am sure they
will show pedifiles where to go to see that horror!!!!
Please, help me.

Thank you
Moondove
--
"I am building a road along side the clouds...."
Lakhota Prayer


t.cruise said:
If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to the point where
it's
really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service Provider and change
your email address. Then take steps to use safe email practices so that
you
might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:

1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT account when
registering
software, or any online registration where your email address is
required.
Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail account address.
Don't
use your real email address when posting to news groups. Addresses are
auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.

2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email addresses from the
infected
PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the virus/worm itself.
So,
if you understand how not to open unsolicited attachments, and what file
attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your system, and use a
good
antivirus program and update your definitions frequently: If you have
people in your address book who don't practice the same safe email
practices
that you do, when you get the hotmail email address, give those people
your
hotmail email address.
--

T.C.
t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com
Remove [NoSpam] to reply



/Will Sutton/ said:

I have OE and am now receiving obscene amounts of spam
with Microsoft updates etc. These all have viruses but my AV
program stops these but I want to stop the messages. So
I have set up a filter that deletes any message with Microsoft or
MS
in the subject . Problem is that it wont stop these messages so
does anyone know the problem or the solution ?

If these are "Messenger" pop-ups, they can be banished by enabling
the
XP
built-in firewall (which should be done anyway). See HELP & SUPPORT
for
easy instructions.

If this is a program that has been inadvertently installed on your
PC,
running ADAware may enable its removal. http://www.lavasoftusa.com
Read the instructions, download, install and run the program. The
basic
utility is free. Or try Spybot from http://www.safer-networking.org/

If the pop-ups are site-related - the page that is being visited -
then
a
pop-up blocker may help. http://google.com Search for "ad
blocker".
Or install and use a new-generation browser that has pop-up blocking,
such as the Mozilla suite from http://mozilla.org. Also has a
built-in
news/mail client.

It will selectively block pop-ups and images, and is much more
customizable than I.E. For more, check in with these groups.

sor
s

Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails that have been
faked
and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update , MS Internet
Security
Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .

What I cant understand is why when you put in message rules that state
the
message should be deleted if the subject contains Microsoft, MS etc
wont
work ?
 
Greetings --

While it's not possible to completely eliminate spam (unsolicited
commercial email), there are some precautions and steps you can take
to minimize it's impact:

1) Never, ever post your real email address to publicly accessible
forums or newsgroups, such as this one. For years now, spammers have
been using software utilities to scan such places to harvest email
addresses. It's a simple matter to disguise your posted email address
so that these software "bots" can't obtain anything useful. For
example, insert some obviously bogus characters or words into your
reply address, for example: "(e-mail address removed)."

2) Never, ever reply to any spam you receive, even to "unsubscribe"
or "remove" yourself from the spammers' address lists; you'll only
compound the problem. If spammers had any intention of honoring the
your desire not to receive spam, they wouldn't have become spammers in
the first place. When you reply to a spammer, all you're doing is
confirming that he/she has a valid, marketable email address.

3) Be especially leery of any offers from websites for free software,
services, information, etc, that require your email address, or that
require your email address so you can "login" to access the offered
service and/or information. Many such sites are supplementing their
income by collecting addresses to sell to the spammers. (Of course,
not all such sites have under-handed motives; it's a judgment call.
If the offer seems "too good to be true," it's most likely a scam.)

4) DO forward any and all spam, with complete headers, to the
originating ISP with a complaint. Not all ISPs will make an effort to
shut down the spammers, but many will. One tool that makes forwarding
such complaints fairly simple is SpamCop (http://spamcop.net).

4) Another useful tool is MailWasher (http://www.mailwasher.net).
This utility allows you to preview your email before downloading it
from the server. Spammers can even be blacklisted, so that any future
emails from them will be automatically deleted from the server.

5) Within Outlook Express, add any spammers to your Blocked Senders
list, so the their messages are automatically deleted from the server
without being downloaded to your PC.


Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


Moondove said:
yGreetings:

In the last month or so I have been receiving spam that is not only
vulgar and disgusting, it is illegal!! No matter how many times I
have removed form email from their list, nothing works. I do not know
where these freaks get people's emails. I suppose where any other
spammer would. And this mail is just shy of child pornagraphy. I
have written to microsoft. No response.
Their must be something I can do. I want to report them, because if
they are saying things such as "the "little girl" next door. I am
sure they will show pedifiles where to go to see that horror!!!!
Please, help me.

Thank you
Moondove
--
"I am building a road along side the clouds...."
Lakhota Prayer


t.cruise said:
If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to the point where it's
really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service Provider and change
your email address. Then take steps to use safe email practices so that you
might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:

1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT account when registering
software, or any online registration where your email address is required.
Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail account address. Don't
use your real email address when posting to news groups. Addresses are
auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.

2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email addresses from the infected
PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the virus/worm itself. So,
if you understand how not to open unsolicited attachments, and what file
attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your system, and use a good
antivirus program and update your definitions frequently: If you have
people in your address book who don't practice the same safe email practices
that you do, when you get the hotmail email address, give those people your
hotmail email address.
--

T.C.
t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com
Remove [NoSpam] to reply


Will Sutton said:
/Will Sutton/ said:

I have OE and am now receiving obscene amounts of spam
with Microsoft updates etc. These all have viruses but my AV
program stops these but I want to stop the messages. So
I have set up a filter that deletes any message with Microsoft or MS
in the subject . Problem is that it wont stop these messages so
does anyone know the problem or the solution ?

If these are "Messenger" pop-ups, they can be banished by
enabling the
XP
built-in firewall (which should be done anyway). See HELP & SUPPORT for
easy instructions.

If this is a program that has been inadvertently installed on your PC,
running ADAware may enable its removal. http://www.lavasoftusa.com
Read the instructions, download, install and run the program. The basic
utility is free. Or try Spybot from http://www.safer-networking.org/

If the pop-ups are site-related - the page that is being
visited - then
a
pop-up blocker may help. http://google.com Search for "ad blocker".
Or install and use a new-generation browser that has pop-up blocking,
such as the Mozilla suite from http://mozilla.org. Also has a built-in
news/mail client.

It will selectively block pop-ups and images, and is much more
customizable than I.E. For more, check in with these groups.

sor
s

Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails that have been faked
and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update , MS Internet Security
Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .

What I cant understand is why when you put in message rules that state the
message should be deleted if the subject contains Microsoft, MS etc wont
work ?
 
Thank you so very much for all your sound advice. What was concerning me the most is that this is my private email, one that only family members know. But like you said if I put it anywhere I am sure they can snactch it.

I do appreciate your taking the time to help.
Pilamayaye (thank you)
Moondove
--
"I am building a road along side the clouds...."
Lakhota Prayer


Bruce Chambers said:
Greetings --

While it's not possible to completely eliminate spam (unsolicited
commercial email), there are some precautions and steps you can take
to minimize it's impact:

1) Never, ever post your real email address to publicly accessible
forums or newsgroups, such as this one. For years now, spammers have
been using software utilities to scan such places to harvest email
addresses. It's a simple matter to disguise your posted email address
so that these software "bots" can't obtain anything useful. For
example, insert some obviously bogus characters or words into your
reply address, for example: "(e-mail address removed)."

2) Never, ever reply to any spam you receive, even to "unsubscribe"
or "remove" yourself from the spammers' address lists; you'll only
compound the problem. If spammers had any intention of honoring the
your desire not to receive spam, they wouldn't have become spammers in
the first place. When you reply to a spammer, all you're doing is
confirming that he/she has a valid, marketable email address.

3) Be especially leery of any offers from websites for free software,
services, information, etc, that require your email address, or that
require your email address so you can "login" to access the offered
service and/or information. Many such sites are supplementing their
income by collecting addresses to sell to the spammers. (Of course,
not all such sites have under-handed motives; it's a judgment call.
If the offer seems "too good to be true," it's most likely a scam.)

4) DO forward any and all spam, with complete headers, to the
originating ISP with a complaint. Not all ISPs will make an effort to
shut down the spammers, but many will. One tool that makes forwarding
such complaints fairly simple is SpamCop (http://spamcop.net).

4) Another useful tool is MailWasher (http://www.mailwasher.net).
This utility allows you to preview your email before downloading it
from the server. Spammers can even be blacklisted, so that any future
emails from them will be automatically deleted from the server.

5) Within Outlook Express, add any spammers to your Blocked Senders
list, so the their messages are automatically deleted from the server
without being downloaded to your PC.


Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


Moondove said:
yGreetings:

In the last month or so I have been receiving spam that is not only
vulgar and disgusting, it is illegal!! No matter how many times I
have removed form email from their list, nothing works. I do not know
where these freaks get people's emails. I suppose where any other
spammer would. And this mail is just shy of child pornagraphy. I
have written to microsoft. No response.
Their must be something I can do. I want to report them, because if
they are saying things such as "the "little girl" next door. I am
sure they will show pedifiles where to go to see that horror!!!!
Please, help me.

Thank you
Moondove
--
"I am building a road along side the clouds...."
Lakhota Prayer


t.cruise said:
If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to the point where it's
really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service Provider and change
your email address. Then take steps to use safe email practices so that you
might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:

1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT account when registering
software, or any online registration where your email address is required.
Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail account address. Don't
use your real email address when posting to news groups. Addresses are
auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.

2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email addresses from the infected
PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the virus/worm itself. So,
if you understand how not to open unsolicited attachments, and what file
attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your system, and use a good
antivirus program and update your definitions frequently: If you have
people in your address book who don't practice the same safe email practices
that you do, when you get the hotmail email address, give those people your
hotmail email address.
--

T.C.
t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com
Remove [NoSpam] to reply



/Will Sutton/ said:

I have OE and am now receiving obscene amounts of spam
with Microsoft updates etc. These all have viruses but my AV
program stops these but I want to stop the messages. So
I have set up a filter that deletes any message with Microsoft or MS
in the subject . Problem is that it wont stop these messages so
does anyone know the problem or the solution ?

If these are "Messenger" pop-ups, they can be banished by enabling the
XP
built-in firewall (which should be done anyway). See HELP & SUPPORT for
easy instructions.

If this is a program that has been inadvertently installed on your PC,
running ADAware may enable its removal. http://www.lavasoftusa.com
Read the instructions, download, install and run the program. The basic
utility is free. Or try Spybot from http://www.safer-networking.org/

If the pop-ups are site-related - the page that is being visited - then
a
pop-up blocker may help. http://google.com Search for "ad blocker".
Or install and use a new-generation browser that has pop-up blocking,
such as the Mozilla suite from http://mozilla.org. Also has a built-in
news/mail client.

It will selectively block pop-ups and images, and is much more
customizable than I.E. For more, check in with these groups.

sor
s

Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails that have been faked
and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update , MS Internet Security
Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .

What I cant understand is why when you put in message rules that state the
message should be deleted if the subject contains Microsoft, MS etc wont
work ?
 
Greetings --

You're welcome.

Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


Moondove said:
Thank you so very much for all your sound advice. What was
concerning me the most is that this is my private email, one that
only family members know. But like you said if I put it anywhere I am
sure they can snactch it.
 
Moondove said:
Thank you so very much for all your sound advice. What was
concerning me the most is that this is my private email, one that
only family members know. But like you said if I put it anywhere I
am sure they can snactch it.

I do appreciate your taking the time to help.
Pilamayaye (thank you)
Moondove
Greetings --

While it's not possible to completely eliminate spam (unsolicited
commercial email), there are some precautions and steps you can take
to minimize it's impact:

1) Never, ever post your real email address to publicly accessible
forums or newsgroups, such as this one. For years now, spammers have
been using software utilities to scan such places to harvest email
addresses. It's a simple matter to disguise your posted email
address so that these software "bots" can't obtain anything useful.
For example, insert some obviously bogus characters or words into
your reply address, for example: "(e-mail address removed)."

2) Never, ever reply to any spam you receive, even to "unsubscribe"
or "remove" yourself from the spammers' address lists; you'll only
compound the problem. If spammers had any intention of honoring the
your desire not to receive spam, they wouldn't have become spammers
in the first place. When you reply to a spammer, all you're doing is
confirming that he/she has a valid, marketable email address.

3) Be especially leery of any offers from websites for free
software, services, information, etc, that require your email
address, or that require your email address so you can "login" to
access the offered service and/or information. Many such sites are
supplementing their income by collecting addresses to sell to the
spammers. (Of course, not all such sites have under-handed motives;
it's a judgment call. If the offer seems "too good to be true," it's
most likely a scam.)

4) DO forward any and all spam, with complete headers, to the
originating ISP with a complaint. Not all ISPs will make an effort
to shut down the spammers, but many will. One tool that makes
forwarding such complaints fairly simple is SpamCop
(http://spamcop.net).

4) Another useful tool is MailWasher (http://www.mailwasher.net).
This utility allows you to preview your email before downloading it
from the server. Spammers can even be blacklisted, so that any
future emails from them will be automatically deleted from the
server.

5) Within Outlook Express, add any spammers to your Blocked Senders
list, so the their messages are automatically deleted from the server
without being downloaded to your PC.


Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


Moondove said:
yGreetings:

In the last month or so I have been receiving spam that is not only
vulgar and disgusting, it is illegal!! No matter how many times I
have removed form email from their list, nothing works. I do not
know where these freaks get people's emails. I suppose where any
other spammer would. And this mail is just shy of child
pornagraphy. I have written to microsoft. No response.
Their must be something I can do. I want to report them, because if
they are saying things such as "the "little girl" next door. I am
sure they will show pedifiles where to go to see that horror!!!!
Please, help me.

Thank you
Moondove
--
"I am building a road along side the clouds...."
Lakhota Prayer


:

If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to the point where it's
really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service Provider and change
your email address. Then take steps to use safe email practices so that you
might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:

1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT account when registering
software, or any online registration where your email address is required.
Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail account address. Don't
use your real email address when posting to news groups. Addresses are
auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.

2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email addresses from the infected
PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the virus/worm itself. So,
if you understand how not to open unsolicited attachments, and what file
attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your system, and use a good
antivirus program and update your definitions frequently: If you have
people in your address book who don't practice the same safe email practices
that you do, when you get the hotmail email address, give those people your
hotmail email address.
--

T.C.
t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com
Remove [NoSpam] to reply



/Will Sutton/ said:

I have OE and am now receiving obscene amounts of spam
with Microsoft updates etc. These all have viruses but my AV
program stops these but I want to stop the messages. So
I have set up a filter that deletes any message with Microsoft or MS
in the subject . Problem is that it wont stop these messages so
does anyone know the problem or the solution ?

If these are "Messenger" pop-ups, they can be banished by
enabling the XP built-in firewall (which should be done anyway).
See HELP & SUPPORT for
easy instructions.

If this is a program that has been inadvertently installed on your PC,
running ADAware may enable its removal. http://www.lavasoftusa.com
Read the instructions, download, install and run the program. The basic
utility is free. Or try Spybot from http://www.safer-networking.org/

If the pop-ups are site-related - the page that is being visited
- then a pop-up blocker may help. http://google.com Search
for "ad blocker".
Or install and use a new-generation browser that has pop-up blocking,
such as the Mozilla suite from http://mozilla.org. Also has a built-in
news/mail client.

It will selectively block pop-ups and images, and is much more
customizable than I.E. For more, check in with these groups.

sor
s

Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails that have been faked
and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update , MS Internet Security
Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .

What I cant understand is why when you put in message rules that state the
message should be deleted if the subject contains Microsoft, MS etc wont
work ?
The quickest way to get off the spammers list is obviously to change your
E-Mail address. Failing that, get a free little program that allows you to
review your E-mail on the ISP Server and delete it right there. The program
Name is E-Mail Remover 3.0. While most sites say it only works with Windows
versions through 2000, I have been using it on XP Home without problems. You
can get it here: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/emremover.html
 
Remember the news reports this past week, an AOL employee
sold 92 million email addresses to a spammer for $100,000.
Even though they are under arrest, they had already been
sold and copied several times. AOL is not secure at all,
logon and change your accounts passwords, create a new email
address.

By the very nature of email, THEY will guess many addresses
and you will get spam that was computer generated to
"everybody@ msn.com " or "unknown reader @ yahoo.com" with
the real email address in a Bcc as a random generated
algorithm.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| Moondove wrote:
| > Thank you so very much for all your sound advice. What
was
| > concerning me the most is that this is my private email,
one that
| > only family members know. But like you said if I put it
anywhere I
| > am sure they can snactch it.
| >
| > I do appreciate your taking the time to help.
| > Pilamayaye (thank you)
| > Moondove
| >
| >> Greetings --
| >>
| >> While it's not possible to completely eliminate
spam (unsolicited
| >> commercial email), there are some precautions and steps
you can take
| >> to minimize it's impact:
| >>
| >> 1) Never, ever post your real email address to
publicly accessible
| >> forums or newsgroups, such as this one. For years now,
spammers have
| >> been using software utilities to scan such places to
harvest email
| >> addresses. It's a simple matter to disguise your
posted email
| >> address so that these software "bots" can't obtain
anything useful.
| >> For example, insert some obviously bogus characters or
words into
| >> your reply address, for example: "(e-mail address removed)."
| >>
| >> 2) Never, ever reply to any spam you receive, even to
"unsubscribe"
| >> or "remove" yourself from the spammers' address lists;
you'll only
| >> compound the problem. If spammers had any intention of
honoring the
| >> your desire not to receive spam, they wouldn't have
become spammers
| >> in the first place. When you reply to a spammer, all
you're doing is
| >> confirming that he/she has a valid, marketable email
address.
| >>
| >> 3) Be especially leery of any offers from websites for
free
| >> software, services, information, etc, that require your
email
| >> address, or that require your email address so you can
"login" to
| >> access the offered service and/or information. Many
such sites are
| >> supplementing their income by collecting addresses to
sell to the
| >> spammers. (Of course, not all such sites have
under-handed motives;
| >> it's a judgment call. If the offer seems "too good to
be true," it's
| >> most likely a scam.)
| >>
| >> 4) DO forward any and all spam, with complete headers,
to the
| >> originating ISP with a complaint. Not all ISPs will
make an effort
| >> to shut down the spammers, but many will. One tool
that makes
| >> forwarding such complaints fairly simple is SpamCop
| >> (http://spamcop.net).
| >>
| >> 4) Another useful tool is MailWasher
(http://www.mailwasher.net).
| >> This utility allows you to preview your email before
downloading it
| >> from the server. Spammers can even be blacklisted, so
that any
| >> future emails from them will be automatically deleted
from the
| >> server.
| >>
| >> 5) Within Outlook Express, add any spammers to your
Blocked Senders
| >> list, so the their messages are automatically deleted
from the server
| >> without being downloaded to your PC.
| >>
| >>
| >> Bruce Chambers
| >> --
| >> Help us help you:
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever
count on
| >> having both at once. - RAH
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>> yGreetings:
| >>>
| >>> In the last month or so I have been receiving spam
that is not only
| >> vulgar and disgusting, it is illegal!! No matter how
many times I
| >> have removed form email from their list, nothing works.
I do not
| >> know where these freaks get people's emails. I suppose
where any
| >> other spammer would. And this mail is just shy of
child
| >> pornagraphy. I have written to microsoft. No
response.
| >>> Their must be something I can do. I want to report
them, because if
| >> they are saying things such as "the "little girl" next
door. I am
| >> sure they will show pedifiles where to go to see that
horror!!!!
| >>> Please, help me.
| >>>
| >>> Thank you
| >>> Moondove
| >>> --
| >>> "I am building a road along side the clouds...."
| >>> Lakhota Prayer
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> "t.cruise" wrote:
| >>>
| >>>> If the amount of SPAM email messages has escalated to
the point
| >> where it's
| >>>> really bothering you: Get with your Internet Service
Provider and
| >> change
| >>>> your email address. Then take steps to use safe
email practices
| >> so that you
| >>>> might prevent or limit SPAM in the future, such as:
| >>>>
| >>>> 1. Get a free hotmail email account, and use THAT
account when
| >> registering
| >>>> software, or any online registration where your email
address is
| >> required.
| >>>> Lists are sold, so let those lists have your hotmail
account
| >> address. Don't
| >>>> use your real email address when posting to news
groups.
| >> Addresses are
| >>>> auto-harvested from these groups for SPAM.
| >>>>
| >>>> 2. Many of the newer viruses/worms seek email
addresses from the
| >> infected
| >>>> PC, and harvest them, and auto-send SPAM and/or the
virus/worm
| >> itself. So,
| >>>> if you understand how not to open unsolicited
attachments, and
| >> what file
| >>>> attachments to never open, to avoid infection on your
system, and
| >> use a good
| >>>> antivirus program and update your definitions
frequently: If you
| >> have
| >>>> people in your address book who don't practice the
same safe email
| >> practices
| >>>> that you do, when you get the hotmail email address,
give those
| >> people your
| >>>> hotmail email address.
| >>>> --
| >>>>
| >>>> T.C.
| >>>> t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com
| >>>> Remove [NoSpam] to reply
| >>>>
| >>>>
message
| >>>> | >>>>>
| >>>>> | >>>>>> /Will Sutton/ said:
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>> I have OE and am now receiving obscene amounts of
spam
| >>>>>>> with Microsoft updates etc. These all have viruses
but my AV
| >>>>>>> program stops these but I want to stop the
messages. So
| >>>>>>> I have set up a filter that deletes any message
with
| >> Microsoft or MS
| >>>>>>> in the subject . Problem is that it wont stop
these messages
| >> so
| >>>>>>> does anyone know the problem or the solution ?
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> If these are "Messenger" pop-ups, they can be
banished by
| >>>>>> enabling the XP built-in firewall (which should be
done anyway).
| >>>>>> See HELP &
| >> SUPPORT for
| >>>>>> easy instructions.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> If this is a program that has been inadvertently
installed on
| >> your PC,
| >>>>>> running ADAware may enable its removal.
| >> http://www.lavasoftusa.com
| >>>>>> Read the instructions, download, install and run
the program.
| >> The basic
| >>>>>> utility is free. Or try Spybot from
| >> http://www.safer-networking.org/
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> If the pop-ups are site-related - the page that is
being visited
| >>>>>> - then a pop-up blocker may help.
http://google.com Search
| >>>>>> for "ad
| >> blocker".
| >>>>>> Or install and use a new-generation browser that
has pop-up
| >> blocking,
| >>>>>> such as the Mozilla suite from http://mozilla.org.
Also has a
| >> built-in
| >>>>>> news/mail client.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> It will selectively block pop-ups and images, and
is much more
| >>>>>> customizable than I.E. For more, check in with
these groups.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
sor
| >>>>>>
s| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Should have made it clearer, these are actual emails
that have
| >> been faked
| >>>>> and use the headings like Microsoft Security Update
, MS
| >> Internet Security
| >>>>> Patch etc and all contain those dreaded viruses .
| >>>>>
| >>>>> What I cant understand is why when you put in
message rules that
| >> state the
| >>>>> message should be deleted if the subject contains
Microsoft, MS
| >> etc wont
| >>>>> work ?
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> ---
| >>>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
| >>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system
(http://www.grisoft.com).
| >>>> Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release
Date: 4/9/2004
| The quickest way to get off the spammers list is obviously
to change your
| E-Mail address. Failing that, get a free little program
that allows you to
| review your E-mail on the ISP Server and delete it right
there. The program
| Name is E-Mail Remover 3.0. While most sites say it only
works with Windows
| versions through 2000, I have been using it on XP Home
without problems. You
| can get it here:
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/emremover.html
|
| --
| Gene K
|
|
 

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