Outlook 2007 modifying HTML


T

Terry R.

I create a newsletter for a company. At first I coded it by hand and
inserted it into my email client, Mozilla Thunderbird. The code looked
fine in all browsers and in TB. I sent the email to the client, who
sent the email to others. Outlook re-coded the email and completely
screwed it up. We tried a lot of options but nothing changed, every
time the coding messed up the formatting (CSS).

This month I thought I would send them an HTML file, with images linked
remotely. Outlook recoded the file, and messed it up again.

Is there a setting in Outlook to prevent this from happening? They are
using MSO 2007.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Terry R.
 
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P

Pat Willener

Can you give some examples what was "recoded" by Outlook?

How did your client send the message out - forward?
 
F

frier

How did they use the HTML? I send a newsletter and insert the HTML file and
it doesn't get messed up.

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I create a newsletter for a company.  At first I coded it by hand and
inserted it into my email client, Mozilla Thunderbird.  The code looked
fine in all browsers and in TB.  I sent the email to the client, who sent
the email to others.  Outlook re-coded the email and completely screwed it
up.  We tried a lot of options but nothing changed, every time the coding
messed up the formatting (CSS).
This month I thought I would send them an HTML file, with images linked
remotely.  Outlook recoded the file, and messed it up again.
Is there a setting in Outlook to prevent this from happening?  They are
using MSO 2007.
Thanks for any suggestions,

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T

Terry R.

The date and time was Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:33:37 PM, and on a
whim, Pat Willener pounded out on the keyboard:
Can you give some examples what was "recoded" by Outlook?

How did your client send the message out - forward?

Hi Pat,

Sure. Here is the HTML file I created and sent them:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html><head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css">
<meta name="Author" content="Terry Rather">
<title>The Crossing-February 2009 Newsletter</title>

<style type="text/css">
#mainWrapper
{width:750px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;text-align:center;font-family:
Candara,'GoudySans LT BT',sans-serif;}
#mastheadWrapper {border-bottom:thick solid rgb(153, 153,
0);text-align:left;}
#leftImage {float:left; height:160px; width:220px;}
#rightImage {float:right;padding-top:110px;}
#centerImageDiv {height:159px;font-family: Candara,'GoudySans LT
BT',sans-serif;font-size:100%;margin-left:250px;position:relative;}
#centerImage {position:absolute;top:60px;z-index:1;}
#contentDiv {clear:both;text-align:left; font-family: Candara,'GoudySans
LT BT',sans-serif;}
h4
{position:relative;top:1em;padding-bottom:.1em;z-index:2;font-weight:normal}
h2 {color: rgb(153, 153, 0);}
td {font-family: Candara,'GoudySans LT BT',sans-serif;}
table {font-family: Candara,'GoudySans LT BT',sans-serif;}
tbody {font-family: Candara,'GoudySans LT BT',sans-serif;}
</style>
</head>

<body style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
<div id="mainWrapper">
<img id="leftImage"
src="http://www.ratherco.com/public/tc/headergraphic.png" alt="Header
Graphic">
<div id="mastheadWrapper">
<img id="rightImage"
src="http://www.ratherco.com/public/tc/thecrossing.gif" alt="The Crossing">
<div id="centerImageDiv">
<img id="centerImage"
src="http://www.ratherco.com/public/tc/headergraphic2.gif">
<br>
<h4>The Crossing</h4>
<h4>Helping People Say Yes to God</h4>
</div>
</div>
<div id="contentDiv">
<h2>The Crossing Arts</h2>

<!--
REMOVE HEADER TABLE and incorporate it into table below 02-17-09
<table border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#999900" valign="top">Does God Really Need Us?</td>
<td align="right" bgcolor="#999900">By Trent Maddox&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
<td align="right" bgcolor="#999900" width="240px">February
2008<br></td></tr></tbody></table>
END OF TABLE HEADER REMOVED
-->

<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tbody>
<td colspan="2" bgcolor="#999900" valign="top">
<span style="position: left: 0px">Does God Really Need Us?</span>
<span style="position: relative; right: -110px">By Trent Maddox</span>
</td>
<td align="right" bgcolor="#999900">February 2008</td>
</tr>
<tr><td colspan="3">&nbsp;</td></tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" width="66%">
I actually tend to think that God doesn’t really need you, me, our
talents, or our time, to do His work. &nbsp;Think about it, a weekend
service at The Crossing without any of the Creative Arts people.
&nbsp;No band, no Powerpoint, no cool lighting… What if a staggered
service had to have a five minute coffee break in the middle because
things weren’t started on time… Would we still be able to have a
service? &nbsp;Could Tim turn on the sound system and a microphone to be
able to speak? Would God still be able to reach people? &nbsp;I think so.
<br><br>
The really crazy cool thing here is that in doing all these things
(sound, drama, video, etc) we actually get to use our talents to partner
WITH God to reach people. &nbsp;He could do it without any of us, but He
invites us to be a part.
<br><br>
That completely changes our attitude of serving, doesn’t it? &nbsp;We’re
not doing God a favor. We’re not here out of guilt. &nbsp;We’re not
entitled to anything. We’re here to be used how God wants to use us.
&nbsp;And trust me on this, His plan for us is way different than our
own plans.
<br><br>
For the coolest true story on partnering with God, ask JT (one of our
brand new singers) about his story on the first weekend he served here.
&nbsp;It’s so great. &nbsp;I don’t have room to tell it here, so ask him…
<br><br>
We are all so blessed to be doing what we’re doing.
</td>
<td>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
<td align="center" valign="center">
<img style="width: 320px; height: 240px;"
src="http://www.ratherco.com/public/tc/volunteers.jpg" alt="Volunteers">
<br>
<!-- Series at The Crossing -->
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="color: rgb(153, 153, 0);" valign="top" width="33%">
<b>Welcome to the Team!</b>
<br>
</td>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#999900" valign="top" width="40%">
<b>Creative Arts Staff</b>
<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" valign="top">
Please welcome our new creative arts volunteers
<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">
Lehua Coley: Creative Arts Pastor
<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">
Jeff Walker: Camera
<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">
<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">
Trent Maddox: Music Pastor
<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">
Scott Smith: Graphics
<br>
</td>
<td valign="top"><br>
</td>
<td valign="top">
Steve Erdeman: Audio &amp; Lighting
<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" valign="top">
Jason “JT” Toney: Music
<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">
Chris Detken: Video
<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" valign="top">
Brad Blevins: Audio
<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">
Brett Detken: Adult Programming
<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" valign="top">
Regina Richardson: Stage Manager
</td>
<td valign="top">
Nicole Romero: Video Production
<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" valign="top">
Chad Coates: Graphics
<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">
Lilly Moscoso: Arts Coordinator
<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" valign="top">
<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">
Deborah DiMicelli: Drama
<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" valign="top">
<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">
Jared Romero: Writing
<br>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<!-- REMOVED BROWN LINE FOR FEB 09
<div style="border-top: thick solid rgb(153, 153, 0); clear: both;
margin-top: 0px;"><br>
-->
<br>
<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" align="center" bgcolor="#999900" valign="top">
<b>Upcoming Events</b>
<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="middle"><img style="width: 320px; height: 240px;"
src="http://www.ratherco.com/public/tc/bentrenttim.jpg" alt="Trent, Tim,
Ben">
</td>
<td valign="middle">
Go Week: February 16-20
<br><br>
World Vision Tent: February 19-23
<br><br>
Dirty Little Secrets: New Series starting March 7 &amp; 8
<br><br>
Starting Point: March 8
<br><br>
Emerge Women’s Retreat: March 13-15
<br><br>
Baptisms: March 28 &amp; 29

<br>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<!-- Brown line -->
<div style="border-top: thick solid rgb(153, 153, 0); clear: both;
margin-top: 0px;"><br>
<div style="font-family: Candara,'GoudySans LT BT',sans-serif; color:
rgb(153, 153, 0);" align="center">
Service Times
<br><br>
Saturday @ 5:30 in the Tent
<br><br>
Sunday @ 8:30 in the Loft, 9:30 in the Tent, 10:00 in the Loft, 11:00 in
the Tent and 11:30 in the Loft
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body></html>

***END OF HAND CODING

Here is what OUTLOOK did to it when I sent it to them and they sent a
new email with only the attachment:

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
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that God
doesn’t really need you, me, our talents, or our time, to do His work.
&nbsp;Think about it, a weekend service at The Crossing without any
of the
Creative Arts people. &nbsp;No band, no Powerpoint, no cool lighting…
What if
a staggered service had to have a five minute coffee break in the middle
because things weren’t started on time… Would we still be able to have a
service? &nbsp;Could Tim turn on the sound system and a microphone to
be able
to speak? Would God still be able to reach people? &nbsp;I think so. <br>
<br>
The really crazy cool thing here is that in doing all these things
(sound,
drama, video, etc) we actually get to use our talents to partner WITH
God to
reach people. &nbsp;He could do it without any of us, but He invites
us to be
a part. <br>
<br>
That completely changes our attitude of serving, doesn’t it?
&nbsp;We’re not
doing God a favor. We’re not here out of guilt. &nbsp;We’re not
entitled to
anything. We’re here to be used how God wants to use us. &nbsp;And
trust me
on this, His plan for us is way different than our own plans. <br>

<br>
For the coolest true story on partnering with God, ask JT (one of our
brand
new singers) about his story on the first weekend he served here.
&nbsp;It’s
so great. &nbsp;I don’t have room to tell it here, so ask him… <br>
<br>
We are all so blessed to be doing what we’re doing.
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<td colspan=2 valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Jason “JT” Toney: Music
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Chris Detken: Video
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style='mso-yfti-irow:5'>
<td colspan=2 valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Brad Blevins: Audio
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Brett Detken: Adult
Programming <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style='mso-yfti-irow:6'>
<td colspan=2 valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Rod Carrido:
Camera<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Nicole Romero: Video
Production <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style='mso-yfti-irow:7'>
<td colspan=2 valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Chad Coates: Graphics
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Lilly Moscoso: Arts
Coordinator <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style='mso-yfti-irow:8'>
<td colspan=2 valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Deborah DiMicelli: Drama
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style='mso-yfti-irow:9;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
<td colspan=2 valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Jared Romero: Writing
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>

</tr>
</table>

<p class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<!-- REMOVED BROWN LINE FOR FEB 09
<div style="border-top: thick solid rgb(153, 153, 0); clear: both;
margin-top: 0px;"><br>
-->

<table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%"

style='width:100.0%;mso-cellspacing:1.5pt;mso-yfti-tbllook:1184;mso-padding-alt:
1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes'>
<td colspan=2 valign=top style='background:#999900;padding:1.5pt
1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span

style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman"'>Upcoming
Events</span></b><span
style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

</td>
</tr>
<tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-no-proof:yes'><img
width=320
height=240 id="_x0000_i1025"
src="http://www.ratherco.com/public/tc/bentrenttim.jpg" alt="Trent,
Tim, Ben"></span><span

style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Dirty Little Secrets: New
Series
starting March 7 &amp; 8 <br>

<br>
Starting Point: March 8 <br>
<br>
Emerge Women’s Retreat: March 13-15 <br>
<br>
Baptisms: March 28 &amp; 29 <o:p></o:p></span></p>

</td>
</tr>
</table>

<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #999900 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in
0in 0in'><!-- Brown line -->

<p class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
style='font-family:"Candara","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman";
color:#999900'>Service Times <br>
<br>
Saturday @ 5:30 in the Tent <br>
<br>
Sunday @ 8:30 in the Loft, 9:30 in the Tent, 10:00 in the Loft, 11:00 in the
Tent and 11:30 in the Loft <o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

</body>

</html>

***END OF OUTLOOK RECODING

If this isn't the most ridiculous thing you've ever seen, I'd be surprised.



Terry R.
 
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Terry R.

The date and time was Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:44:53 PM, and on a
whim, Diane Poremsky [MVP] pounded out on the keyboard:
How did they use the HTML? I send a newsletter and insert the HTML file and
it doesn't get messed up.

Hi Diane,

They didn't "use" anything. The first newsletter I sent as an email.
The sent the email as "new" and Outlook put it's touches on it and
ruined it. The second newsletter was given to them as an HTML "file".
They sent the attached file out and Outlook again decided to recode the
document.

Beside adding hundreds of lines of useless code, the tables turned out
relatively okay. But the CSS code I inserted was completely screwed up.

Maybe your HTML isn't very complicated and Outlook doesn't stumble. But
it does a lousy job of handling CSS.

Terry R.
 
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Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]

Maybe your HTML isn't very complicated and Outlook doesn't stumble. But
it does a lousy job of handling CSS.

Outlook 2007 uses Word's rendering engine instead of IE's engine, so it
doesn't obey CSS like a web browser does. You want to read this:
<http://download.microsoft.com/downl...6b4ca0c2/Outlook2007EmailEditorWhitepaper.doc>

This contains links to other articles as well, namely
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338201.aspx and
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338200.aspx

This tool will help you compose HTML that will look correct in Word:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...08-0F86-431E-8BD5-EF0E9CE26A3A&displaylang=en>
 
T

Terry R.

The date and time was Friday, February 27, 2009 5:12:16 AM, and on a
whim, Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook] pounded out on the keyboard:
Outlook 2007 uses Word's rendering engine instead of IE's engine, so it
doesn't obey CSS like a web browser does. You want to read this:
<http://download.microsoft.com/downl...6b4ca0c2/Outlook2007EmailEditorWhitepaper.doc>

This contains links to other articles as well, namely
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338201.aspx and
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338200.aspx

This tool will help you compose HTML that will look correct in Word:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...08-0F86-431E-8BD5-EF0E9CE26A3A&displaylang=en>

Hi Brian,

We don't want to use Word for composing. It creates horribly bloated
code, as you can see by what I sent Pat. And I prefer to use CSS on
more and more coding. Because OL/W doesn't "obey" CSS, it's just not
supposed to be used?

What makes OL think it can recode a file that was an attachment? Who
thought that up?


Terry R.
 
B

Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]

We don't want to use Word for composing. It creates horribly bloated
code, as you can see by what I sent Pat. And I prefer to use CSS on more
and more coding. Because OL/W doesn't "obey" CSS, it's just not supposed
to be used?

If you expect to see a particular appearance in Outlook, you'll need to use
methods that Outlook can render.
What makes OL think it can recode a file that was an attachment? Who
thought that up?

I don't believe this happened. Outlook will not change attachments. No
mail client does. You'd have to provide proof. I don't think your prior
message with supposed before/after data constitutes that proof since you
didn't provide the raw data from the message transmission.
 
T

Terry R.

The date and time was Friday, February 27, 2009 7:40:37 AM, and on a
whim, Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook] pounded out on the keyboard:
If you expect to see a particular appearance in Outlook, you'll need to use
methods that Outlook can render.

It's not an Outlook rendering problem per se. Hardly everyone uses OL.
It renders great on many different clients I tried sending it to, only
MS clients can't render it.

And sending an HTML file I thought would allow everyone to view the
"proper rendering" in a browser. But since OL decided it needed to
improve the code, the rendering was a disaster for the CSS coding.
I don't believe this happened. Outlook will not change attachments. No
mail client does. You'd have to provide proof. I don't think your prior
message with supposed before/after data constitutes that proof since you
didn't provide the raw data from the message transmission.

Are you saying I'm lying? Outlook DID change it. I sent the file. They
saved the file to their Desktop and then attached via an Outlook email.
And the results are what you can see in the paste I gave to Pat. I
opened the source on the original and the attachment sent by OL and you
can see for yourself what OL did to the attached file.


Terry R.
 
T

Terry R.

The date and time was Friday, February 27, 2009 7:40:37 AM, and on a
whim, Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook] pounded out on the keyboard:
If you expect to see a particular appearance in Outlook, you'll need to use
methods that Outlook can render.


I don't believe this happened. Outlook will not change attachments. No
mail client does. You'd have to provide proof. I don't think your prior
message with supposed before/after data constitutes that proof since you
didn't provide the raw data from the message transmission.

Brian,

I just sent the HTML file to my email at that company and opened it in
OL. I saved the file to the Desktop and opened it in IE and Notepad.
It was not modified and displayed as coded. I then sent the file back
to myself and checked the file again. It was not modified.

I am going to have to physically watch them go through the motions next
time, to see what is causing the issue.

I can only say it's happened twice, and both times I've given them
instructions on what to do. Why the code was changed the first time,
and then the HTML file was modified this time, I can't say.

I will report back when I learn more.

Thank you,


Terry R.
 
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Pat Willener

Terry said:
The date and time was Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:33:37 PM, and on a
whim, Pat Willener pounded out on the keyboard:


Hi Pat,

Sure. Here is the HTML file I created and sent them:

<details snipped>

When I look at the 2nd version, it appears to me that the text was
edited - with Word - and that Word did the recoding.

What happens if the client just sends on your message with Outlook, and
not let it touch by Word?
 
T

Terry R.

The date and time was Sunday, March 01, 2009 6:56:20 PM, and on a whim,
Pat Willener pounded out on the keyboard:
<details snipped>

When I look at the 2nd version, it appears to me that the text was
edited - with Word - and that Word did the recoding.

What happens if the client just sends on your message with Outlook, and
not let it touch by Word?

Hi Pat,

I instructed them to save the file to their Desktop from my email, and
then to send it out in OL as an attachment. They didn't open it in
Word, that's my point. Since OL uses Word for composing and rendering,
that's where I thought the issue was.

I will hopefully meet with the ones sending out the email so I can
monitor exactly what they're doing, or find out where my file is getting
hi-jacked and re-coded.




Terry R.
 
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Terry R.

The date and time was Sunday, March 01, 2009 6:56:20 PM, and on a whim,
Pat Willener pounded out on the keyboard:
<details snipped>

When I look at the 2nd version, it appears to me that the text was
edited - with Word - and that Word did the recoding.

What happens if the client just sends on your message with Outlook, and
not let it touch by Word?

Hi Pat,

I have researched this further. Outlook re-codes any HTML email on
Reply or Forward. I have tested this multiple times and the results are
the same every time.

I sent the hand coded HTML email to the client. When the source is
viewed on receipt in OL, it is coded as I sent it.

When the email is replied to or forwarded, OL re-codes the entire email.
And since Word is the composer in OL, the output is twice the size and
the code gets broken.

Regarding the attached HTML file being re-coded, some email clients
display attachments inline. And a text document or HTML attachment will
not even appear as an attachment, but as part of the message body. The
client uses a web database program for selecting recipients. During
that process, the attachment is read as an HTML email rather than a
separate attachment, and then the Word Editor destroys the code.

Is there any way to stop this? I looked through the options but can't
find anything.

The real joke is that in the "Mail Format" tab, there is the checked
option, "Reduce the file size of the message by removing formatting
information that is not necessary to display the email message". And
here Word is doubling the size of the file and corrupting the code.

Thanks,

Terry R.
 

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