Other Browser(s) Security Issue

[R. McCarty]

Just as a counterpoint on the rush to adopt "Other" Browsers to be
safe on the Internet...check the following
http://www.betanews.com/article/Spoofing_Flaw_Found_in_Non_IE_Browsers/1107797563

'Nothing implied by this posting, & definitely not trying to ignite another
Hot-Button Thread.'

 

[Yves Leclerc]

The only reason it has been recommended to use other browsers than IE, is
the fact that security holes are found in it. Now, with the popularity of
the other browsers, the security holes in "those" are also coming out.
Therefore, there does not seem to be a secured Windows web browser out
there! Sure they may say that there is secure but take a closer look at the
percentage of the browser "market" that they say they have. Theirs are just
not in wide enough use.

 

[Dan]

If you use SpywareBlaster, then the user can see that security issues are in
the thousands with IE and only in the hundreds with Mozilla Firefox. The
firefox browser is not a complete solution of course but it provides needed
competition to the marketplace which in turn will spur innovation and is good
for all businesses especially Microsoft for some reason.

: Just as a counterpoint on the rush to adopt "Other" Browsers to be
: safe on the Internet...check the following
:
http://www.betanews.com/article/Spoofing_Flaw_Found_in_Non_IE_Browsers/1107797563
:
: 'Nothing implied by this posting, & definitely not trying to ignite another
: Hot-Button Thread.'
:
:

 

[R. McCarty]

Agree totally - Microsoft should be actively working on IE-7.0, &
forget the Longhorn timeline. If for no other reason than Tab(ed)
browsing. I just get questions daily from customers who want to
know whether to drop IE for Firefox. I try to explain that anything
with as much code as a browser is always open to some obscure
exploit that gets uncovered. It's a perpetual Cat-&-Mouse game.
Safe browsing habits, correct tools and a little PC hardening will
help most everyone stay safer on web.

 

[Dan]

Exactly! I even go to the extreme of disconnecting my ethernet cable just a
bit so it still stays in the port but does not have an active connection.
This tip was actually a suggestion from Microsoft. I guess that just goes to
show that Microsoft knows their operating systems are not perfect in terms of
security.

: Agree totally - Microsoft should be actively working on IE-7.0, &
: forget the Longhorn timeline. If for no other reason than Tab(ed)
: browsing. I just get questions daily from customers who want to
: know whether to drop IE for Firefox. I try to explain that anything
: with as much code as a browser is always open to some obscure
: exploit that gets uncovered. It's a perpetual Cat-&-Mouse game.
: Safe browsing habits, correct tools and a little PC hardening will
: help most everyone stay safer on web.
:
: : > If you use SpywareBlaster, then the user can see that security issues are
: > in
: > the thousands with IE and only in the hundreds with Mozilla Firefox. The
: > firefox browser is not a complete solution of course but it provides
: > needed
: > competition to the marketplace which in turn will spur innovation and is
: > good
: > for all businesses especially Microsoft for some reason.
: >
: > : > : Just as a counterpoint on the rush to adopt "Other" Browsers to be
: > : safe on the Internet...check the following
: > :
: >
http://www.betanews.com/article/Spoofing_Flaw_Found_in_Non_IE_Browsers/1107797563
: > :
: > : 'Nothing implied by this posting, & definitely not trying to ignite
: > another
: > : Hot-Button Thread.'
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

 

[Stan Brown]

Just as a counterpoint on the rush to adopt "Other" Browsers to be
safe on the Internet...check the following
http://www.betanews.com/article/Spoofing_Flaw_Found_in_Non_IE_Browsers/1107797563

The flaw (at least as explained in the article) is nonsense. "The
link is translated into the code, which looks like
pаypal.com." -- except a is not coded that way in a URL. If a
were coded in a URL it would be %67. I don't know which "non-
Microsoft browsers" are referred to, but Mozilla refuses the URL
with "www.p&.com could not be found."

But even supposing the article documented a genuine security flaw,
it's a _lot_ more likely to get fixed a _lot_ quicker in Mozilla
than in MSIE; and at least Mozilla isn't designed to be insecure as
MSIE is. ("Can you say ActiveX? I knew that you could.")

'Nothing implied by this posting, & definitely not trying to ignite another
Hot-Button Thread.'

Uh-huh.

 

[Stan Brown]

The only reason it has been recommended to use other browsers than IE, is
the fact that security holes are found in it. Now, with the popularity of
the other browsers, the security holes in "those" are also coming out.
Therefore, there does not seem to be a secured Windows web browser out
there!

That's true.

But because there is no perfect lock, do you say that one lock for
your home is as good as another? Of course not; you get the one
that is harder to break into. Seems to me the situation is the same
with browsers: there is no perfect browser but one is markedly,
dangerously, less secure than the others.

 

[R. McCarty]

Un-Huh - What ? - I've stated my reasons for posting the alert. Which
by the way Opera has already addressed with 7.54u2 release. Instead
of these Winks-&-Nods why can't people just say what's on their mind.
Since when is an inference more articulate than a straight forward
statement.
Even Kurt steps up to the plate and swings, instead of bunting around
an issue.

 

[Dan]

Kurt doesn't fear people which is a good thing.

: Un-Huh - What ? - I've stated my reasons for posting the alert. Which
: by the way Opera has already addressed with 7.54u2 release. Instead
: of these Winks-&-Nods why can't people just say what's on their mind.
: Since when is an inference more articulate than a straight forward
: statement.
: Even Kurt steps up to the plate and swings, instead of bunting around
: an issue.
:
: : > "R. McCarty" wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
: >>Just as a counterpoint on the rush to adopt "Other" Browsers to be
: >>safe on the Internet...check the following
:797563
: >
: > The flaw (at least as explained in the article) is nonsense. "The
: > link is translated into the code, which looks like
: > pаypal.com." -- except a is not coded that way in a URL. If a
: > were coded in a URL it would be %67. I don't know which "non-
: > Microsoft browsers" are referred to, but Mozilla refuses the URL
: > with "www.p&.com could not be found."
: >
: > But even supposing the article documented a genuine security flaw,
: > it's a _lot_ more likely to get fixed a _lot_ quicker in Mozilla
: > than in MSIE; and at least Mozilla isn't designed to be insecure as
: > MSIE is. ("Can you say ActiveX? I knew that you could.")
: >
: >>'Nothing implied by this posting, & definitely not trying to ignite
: >>another
: >> Hot-Button Thread.'
: >
: > Uh-huh.
: >
: > --
: >
: > Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
: > http://OakRoadSystems.com/
:
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