OT: The real reason people use Linux

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DarkSentinel

The Lord said:
The real reason people don't want to use Linux is because it SUCKS. Just
FYI

You should qualify that statement. It sucks on the desktop side. As a
server, and development platform it works quite well. Since you are the The
Lord, perhaps you could wave your hand and make the smacktards here in the
group understand that..:)
 
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kevpan815

I Like The Fact That Beginning With Open Source Linux Ubuntu 8.04 Long Term
Support, I Will Now Finally Be Able 2 Duel Boot Between Windows Vista Service
Pack One And Open Source Linux Ubuntu 8.04 Long Term Support With Out Having
2 Create A Seperate Partition On The Hard Disk Drive, Just FYI.
 
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Lang Murphy

DarkSentinel said:
You should qualify that statement. It sucks on the desktop side. As a
server, and development platform it works quite well. Since you are the
The Lord, perhaps you could wave your hand and make the smacktards here in
the group understand that..:)


So what you're saying here is that Alias and all his Linux buds should be
posting in Windows Server forums, not Windows workstation forums. Makes
sense to me.

Lang
 
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Mick Murphy

Linux Live-CD can save Data from a crashed Windows hard drive.
But Windows can't do that!!!
 
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DarkSentinel

Lang Murphy said:
So what you're saying here is that Alias and all his Linux buds should be
posting in Windows Server forums, not Windows workstation forums. Makes
sense to me.

The smacktards are going to post no matter what I or anyone else does. Alias
and the rest of the retards contend that it is an alternative on the
desktop, which I pointed out was wrong. A less than 1% proves this beyond a
shadow of a doubt. But as the definition of insane indicates, they try the
same thing over and over and expect a different result. Maybe that is the
key. Linux on the desktop is only for the insane...;)

Seriously though, I am unbiased enough that I know everything has it's
strengths and it's weaknesses. Something the smacktards sorely lack no
matter how many times it is pointed out to them.
 
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Canuck57

DarkSentinel said:
You should qualify that statement. It sucks on the desktop side. As a
server, and development platform it works quite well. Since you are the
The Lord, perhaps you could wave your hand and make the smacktards here in
the group understand that..:)

If Vista on the desktop is to XP, is as the next MS server is going to be to
it's predecessors, this Linux/BSD/UNIX guy is going to be very busy.

And Linux makes a nice desktop. Going from XP or W2000 to say Fedora or Red
Hat is a whole lot easier than doing Vista. Certainly runs faster on 1/2
the hardware Vista takes.
 
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Canuck57

The Lord said:
The real reason people don't want to use Linux is because it SUCKS. Just
FYI

Does not cost them anything to try Linux but a blank DVD and a
download/burn. Legal too.

Vista sucks more.
 
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Canuck57

Linux Live-CD can save Data from a crashed Windows hard drive.
But Windows can't do that!!!

And backup a Windows system in record time over the network in a way that is
actually recoverable.

Windows idea is a checkpoint on the hard disk. I wonder how many know this
does not protect against hard disk crashes or drive corruptions.

Other methods of MS-Windows recovery, while they exist seem to end up with
registry issues and missing stuff.
 
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Stephan Rose

If Vista on the desktop is to XP, is as the next MS server is going to
be to it's predecessors, this Linux/BSD/UNIX guy is going to be very
busy.

And Linux makes a nice desktop. Going from XP or W2000 to say Fedora or
Red Hat is a whole lot easier than doing Vista. Certainly runs faster
on 1/2 the hardware Vista takes.

And the desktops are majorly advancing.

I took both the KDE4 and Gnome 2.22 alpha releases of Ubuntu for a spin
this weekend and I'm very impressed across the board.

KDE4 is the first version of KDE I'd actually consider using though it is
not, in my opinion, yet nearly as good as Gnome. Never cared much for
KDE3.

The new version of Gnome is just absolutely awesome. The new theme looks
and feels very nicely and performance has also received a significant
boost. I'm very happy with it.

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Stephan
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The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

Stephan said:
And the desktops are majorly advancing.

I took both the KDE4 and Gnome 2.22 alpha releases of Ubuntu for a spin
this weekend and I'm very impressed across the board.

KDE4 is the first version of KDE I'd actually consider using though it is
not, in my opinion, yet nearly as good as Gnome. Never cared much for
KDE3.

The new version of Gnome is just absolutely awesome. The new theme looks
and feels very nicely and performance has also received a significant
boost. I'm very happy with it.

Does it still remove some of the screensaver configuration options in
the gui?

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free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
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Canuck57

DarkSentinel said:
The smacktards are going to post no matter what I or anyone else does.
Alias and the rest of the retards contend that it is an alternative on the
desktop, which I pointed out was wrong. A less than 1% proves this beyond
a shadow of a doubt. But as the definition of insane indicates, they try
the same thing over and over and expect a different result. Maybe that is
the key. Linux on the desktop is only for the insane...;)

Seriously though, I am unbiased enough that I know everything has it's
strengths and it's weaknesses. Something the smacktards sorely lack no
matter how many times it is pointed out to them.

Really have you a going.

Linux is for the upcoming generation, selling new seats by the millions and
even M$ can't stop it. China or India, once XP is closed down, either MS
will let the "keys" slip or they will be wiped out like a fire hose washing
a rat down to the sewer.

http://www.laptopgiving.org/en/index.php

And they are not running Vista. If 2 in a million of these kids learn it
well, MS in in deep dodo. Linux is growing faster than you think. Just
think of all those PCs hat can't run Vista....but will run any Linux just
fine.

If you want me to cease my 2 cents on MS, no problem, cut the FUD. Like a
world with many people, there are many OSes. We don't have to be Adolf
about it.
 
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Canuck57

Stephan Rose said:
And the desktops are majorly advancing.

I took both the KDE4 and Gnome 2.22 alpha releases of Ubuntu for a spin
this weekend and I'm very impressed across the board.

KDE4 is the first version of KDE I'd actually consider using though it is
not, in my opinion, yet nearly as good as Gnome. Never cared much for
KDE3.

The new version of Gnome is just absolutely awesome. The new theme looks
and feels very nicely and performance has also received a significant
boost. I'm very happy with it.

I must admit, I haven't really given KDE it's paces in 2-3 years. Probably
should just for grins.

But will have to wait until I get Beryl. Haven't given that a serious
workout yet.
 
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Stephan Rose

Really have you a going.

Linux is for the upcoming generation, selling new seats by the millions
and even M$ can't stop it. China or India, once XP is closed down,
either MS will let the "keys" slip or they will be wiped out like a fire
hose washing a rat down to the sewer.

http://www.laptopgiving.org/en/index.php

And they are not running Vista. If 2 in a million of these kids learn
it well, MS in in deep dodo. Linux is growing faster than you think.
Just think of all those PCs hat can't run Vista....but will run any
Linux just fine.

That precise case happened in my very office with a co-worker of mine.
She had top options:

1. Buy a low-spec machine with vista on it that would run like a dog for
$600 as that's all she could afford.

2. Keep her current computer and throw Linux on it and save the $600.

She chose #2 and is very happy with it. Matter of fact, happy enough to
where her son did the same thing...and I've been approached by others in
the office about doing that.

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Stephan
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Lang Murphy

DarkSentinel said:
The smacktards are going to post no matter what I or anyone else does.
Alias and the rest of the retards contend that it is an alternative on the
desktop, which I pointed out was wrong. A less than 1% proves this beyond
a shadow of a doubt. But as the definition of insane indicates, they try
the same thing over and over and expect a different result. Maybe that is
the key. Linux on the desktop is only for the insane...;)

Seriously though, I am unbiased enough that I know everything has it's
strengths and it's weaknesses. Something the smacktards sorely lack no
matter how many times it is pointed out to them.


Cannot argue with your last paragraph. I've tried numerous nix distros over
the years as Windows desktop replacements and have always found them
lacking. That's just personal opinion; If others find them sufficient, more
power to them. Just don't use this forum as a soapbox on which one spews
personal opinion regarding OS's. That is not what this forum is for,
regardless of some folks rationalization for politicizing OS's here. "I'm
just trying to help." Please. What bullsh*t.

Lang
 
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DarkSentinel

Canuck57 said:
If Vista on the desktop is to XP, is as the next MS server is going to be
to it's predecessors, this Linux/BSD/UNIX guy is going to be very busy.

Indeed. Replacing Apache servers with IIS more than likely. If you keep up
with the market share for each, Apache has fallen dramatically, while IIS
has risen. So by all means do what more and more people are doing. Install
IIS...:)
And Linux makes a nice desktop. Going from XP or W2000 to say Fedora or
Red Hat is a whole lot easier than doing Vista. Certainly runs faster on
1/2 the hardware Vista takes.

It runs on half the hardware because basically all the 25,000 free programs
available are half-assed. So if the programs are half as capable, then you
only need half the hardware. I HAVE ran Linux (Can provide screenshots). I
HAVE supported Linux in a corporate environment. And I can tell you, as a
desktop productivity machine, it DOES suck.
 
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dennis@home

That precise case happened in my very office with a co-worker of mine.
She had top options:

1. Buy a low-spec machine with vista on it that would run like a dog for
$600 as that's all she could afford.

2. Keep her current computer and throw Linux on it and save the $600.

She chose #2 and is very happy with it. Matter of fact, happy enough to
where her son did the same thing...and I've been approached by others in
the office about doing that.

Stupid really.. her old machine was capable of doing what she wanted without
any changes anyway.
So she went through the pain of learning something new for no reason at all.
And you put her through it.
 
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Stephan Rose

Stupid really.. her old machine was capable of doing what she wanted
without any changes anyway.
So she went through the pain of learning something new for no reason at
all. And you put her through it.

Actually her old machine was so infested with viruses, malware and
spamware that it was not in a usable state. And seeing how she is
extremely happy with her system now, what pain did she go through? She
was happy using it and learning it. No pain there.

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PotsOn

DarkSentinel said:
Indeed. Replacing Apache servers with IIS more than likely. If you keep up
with the market share for each, Apache has fallen dramatically, while IIS
has risen. So by all means do what more and more people are doing. Install
IIS...:)


It runs on half the hardware because basically all the 25,000 free
programs available are half-assed. So if the programs are half as capable,
then you only need half the hardware. I HAVE ran Linux (Can provide
screenshots). I HAVE supported Linux in a corporate environment. And I can
tell you, as a desktop productivity machine, it DOES suck.
Only when put in an idiots hands like you. For the rest of us, GNU/Linux is
the best desktop productivity machine by far. But, really, there is no
sense in arguing with YOU about this. You don't understand GNU/Linux, nor
the power it offers. MS Fanboys cannot be believed.

Cheers.

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