OT: Missing MVP's

[Sunny]

Thanks, so it is a "nothing" word
Here in Australia the term most commonly used is "bullshit"

"What is "Aesopian" ?"

It is a word used by people who wish to convey that they think they know
more than the average bear, or otherwise convey that the referred to
commentary is somewhat ambiguous.

Art [artfudd] Folden
--
"Sunny" wrote in message

Addition to my last:

O.K.

I looked at it.

But it seems to require logging in with a Windows Live Mail ID to a
"special" server.

No?

If so, why would anyone want to do that and open oneself up to all
sorts of
invasive techniques by hackers and government agents.

Do you REALLY think the General Public is so GULLIBLE?

Well, SOME folks certainly ARE. So you DO have some evidence for their
gullibility.

Microsoft even has a disclaimer that tells us the "Community Forums
NNTP
bridge" is not really a MS product -- or you're logging into a SERVER
that
is NOT a MS APPLICATION....

Or something of the sort...

It's Aesopian.

What is "Aesopian" ?

Someone at MS should learn to be a better MARKETER...

With TRANSPARENCY.

Nancy

 

[Db]

perhaps you should switch
from ellen degenerous to
opera.

you might win a car.

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DatabaseBen, Retired Professional

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[Db]

i meant oprah.

however, she is
a boring opera

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[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

glee wrote:

I stopped posting via the forums because I was not getting notifications
of replies

See "How do I manage the settings of my alerts?"
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help

Make sure that the emails aren't being filtered to your spamtrap/spam
folder.

...no one posting seemed to be able to find their posts for
follow-up

I'd say that well over 50% of my OPs find their way back. Some even finish
the thread!

...and posts were being 'marked as the answer' that did not
resolve the poster's issue...

The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by one
of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even if they're
repeating what someone else has already posted or something that has nothing
to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP stated XP). <sigh>

 

[Don Dewiel]

But, but..... even "Bullshit" has a useful purpose: "(literally) The feces
of a bull."
--
Don

Thanks, so it is a "nothing" word
Here in Australia the term most commonly used is "bullshit"

"What is "Aesopian" ?"

It is a word used by people who wish to convey that they think they know
more than the average bear, or otherwise convey that the referred to
commentary is somewhat ambiguous.

Art [artfudd] Folden
--
"Sunny" wrote in message

Addition to my last:

O.K.

I looked at it.

But it seems to require logging in with a Windows Live Mail ID to a
"special" server.

No?

If so, why would anyone want to do that and open oneself up to all sorts
of
invasive techniques by hackers and government agents.

Do you REALLY think the General Public is so GULLIBLE?

Well, SOME folks certainly ARE. So you DO have some evidence for their
gullibility.

Microsoft even has a disclaimer that tells us the "Community Forums NNTP
bridge" is not really a MS product -- or you're logging into a SERVER
that
is NOT a MS APPLICATION....

Or something of the sort...

It's Aesopian.

What is "Aesopian" ?

Someone at MS should learn to be a better MARKETER...

With TRANSPARENCY.

Nancy

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

;-))

You can be reading the message in the

Reading Pane or in its own window and Reply Group will send the
reply to the newsgroup. Reply is meant to go to the sender only and
most people munge their address anyway. I don't even keep the Reply
button on the toolbar to avoid a mistake.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

I think you've defined another bug ...er ... feature of WLM.

If you hit reply while IN the message from a newsgroup, it ONLY
goes to the person who sent it and not the group. As far as I can
tell (and yes, I tried all the usual keypresses) is that is the
only way to respond to the group - exit the message and reply to
group from the list without opening the message.

Sucks.




"Urlay Nook" wrote in message

Hello
I've noticed on this group (and on the XP group) that a lot of MVP's
replies
no longer appear.
For instance Winston on the WLM group and PA Bear and Shenan
Stanley on the
XP group.
Replies from them are included in further questions but I never see
there
original reply.
Have the MVP's gone to the forums.
Do I need to go to the forums to follow them.
John

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NJ State Dept of Health Polio Warning Wallet Card
http://pnnj.org/anesthesia/Anesthesia-Warning-Card.pdf (please pass
on)

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

;-D

--
~Ciao~
Cj.·´¯`:..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

NJ State Dept of Health Polio Warning Wallet Card
http://pnnj.org/anesthesia/Anesthesia-Warning-Card.pdf (please pass
on)

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

LMFAO

"What is "Aesopian" ?"

It is a word used by people who wish to convey that they think they
know more than the average bear, or otherwise convey that the
referred to commentary is somewhat ambiguous.

Art [artfudd] Folden
--
"Sunny" wrote in message

Addition to my last:

O.K.

I looked at it.

But it seems to require logging in with a Windows Live Mail ID to a
"special" server.

No?

If so, why would anyone want to do that and open oneself up to all
sorts of
invasive techniques by hackers and government agents.

Do you REALLY think the General Public is so GULLIBLE?

Well, SOME folks certainly ARE. So you DO have some evidence for
their
gullibility.

Microsoft even has a disclaimer that tells us the "Community Forums
NNTP
bridge" is not really a MS product -- or you're logging into a
SERVER that
is NOT a MS APPLICATION....

Or something of the sort...

It's Aesopian.

What is "Aesopian" ?

Someone at MS should learn to be a better MARKETER...

With TRANSPARENCY.

Nancy

--
~Ciao~
Cj.·´¯`:..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

NJ State Dept of Health Polio Warning Wallet Card
http://pnnj.org/anesthesia/Anesthesia-Warning-Card.pdf (please pass
on)

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

I think [NNTP Bridge] has a decided advantage...

But only if you sync your newsreader with your forums immediately
before you start posting replies.

If you compose your replies while working offline, you're at a
distinct advantage

PAB you mean work "WORK OFFLINE?" composiing emails, and responses herein??

and whatever info you eventually post may well

have been superseded by other replies to the thread posted after you
last synchronized with the forum. [Trust me on this, Ken.]

--
~Ciao~
Cj.·´¯`:..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

NJ State Dept of Health Polio Warning Wallet Card
http://pnnj.org/anesthesia/Anesthesia-Warning-Card.pdf (please pass
on)

 

[Shenan Stanley]

+0.5
(I'll still try to use the web interface on occasion.)

 

[Ildhund]

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message news:#[email protected]...

The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even if they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something that has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP stated XP). <sigh>

Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably not very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where the moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like this:
OP: How do I do this?
Me: Like this.
[days or weeks later]
Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
@noel: Thanks!
(There's no threading, so the @s are required.)
OK, that might convince the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back, we'll never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is marked as answer.

One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering - blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
He may get more than he bargained for.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) <<

There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of the
MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of the
OP.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even
if they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something
that has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP
stated XP). <sigh>

Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably
not very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where
the moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like
this:
OP: How do I do this?
Me: Like this.
[days or weeks later]
Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
@noel: Thanks!
(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) OK, that might convince
the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back,
we'll never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is
marked as answer.

One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering -
blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
He may get more than he bargained for.

 

[Ron Sommer]

Answers can show the threading.
Windowslivehelp does not offer threading.

--
Ron Sommer
MS MVP- Windows Live Mail

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message

There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of the
MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of the
OP.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even if
they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something that
has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP stated XP).
<sigh>

Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably not
very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where the
moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like this:
OP: How do I do this?
Me: Like this.
[days or weeks later]
Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
@noel: Thanks!
(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) OK, that might convince
the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back, we'll
never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is marked as
answer.

One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering -
blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
He may get more than he bargained for.

 

[Ildhund]

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message

There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of the MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of the OP.

Not at windowslivehelp.com, there isn't. No settings at all except language and time zone - and the time zone one's broken.
--
Noel
[who can't be bothered to indent the rest]

The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even
if they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something
that has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP
stated XP). <sigh>

Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably
not very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where
the moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like
this:
OP: How do I do this?
Me: Like this.
[days or weeks later]
Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
@noel: Thanks!
(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) OK, that might convince
the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back,
we'll never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is
marked as answer.

One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering -
blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
He may get more than he bargained for.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message



Not at windowslivehelp.com, there isn't. No settings at all except
language and time zone - and the time zone one's broken.

OK. I stay away from there.
--
~Bruce

The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even
if they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something
that has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP
stated XP). <sigh>

Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably
not very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where
the moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like
this:
OP: How do I do this?
Me: Like this.
[days or weeks later]
Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
@noel: Thanks!
(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) OK, that might convince
the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back,
we'll never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is
marked as answer.

One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering -
blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
He may get more than he bargained for.

 

[Nancy Jackman]

There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of the
MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of the
OP.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
-----------------------------------------------

Yes, that's often a problem here...

Again for obvious reasons.

Nancy Jackman

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message

There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of the
MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of the
OP.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even if
they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something that
has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP stated XP).
<sigh>

Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably not
very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where the
moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like this:
OP: How do I do this?
Me: Like this.
[days or weeks later]
Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
@noel: Thanks!
(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) OK, that might convince
the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back, we'll
never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is marked as
answer.

One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering -
blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
He may get more than he bargained for.

 

[glee]

inline....

glee wrote:


See "How do I manage the settings of my alerts?"
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help

But do they have a setting to change your email address for the alerts?
Nowhere I can see. If you want to change the email address for alert
delvery, you have to set up a new Live ID to log in with. Pfft...

Make sure that the emails aren't being filtered to your spamtrap/spam
folder.

They never showed up anywhere.

I'd say that well over 50% of my OPs find their way back. Some even
finish the thread!
Zowie!



The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even
if they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something
that has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP
stated XP). <sigh>

Yes, idiots is the word I was looking for.....

I also see the forums support only IE and Firefox...."Others may work,
but some features may not function as expected." After all this time,
MS still can't figure how to code web sites to "standards".....here
comes that word I was looking for again....

 

[milt]

I also see the forums support only IE and Firefox...."Others may work,
but some features may not function as expected." After all this time, MS
still can't figure how to code web sites to "standards".....here comes
that word I was looking for again....

Well, in the same way that MS sets their own standards in trying to
force people to forums instead of newsgroups. MS sets their own
standards with web standards as well. They think they are big enough
that they can set the standards and everyone will have to follow them.

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

But do they have a setting to change your email address for the alerts?


http://alerts.live.com/Alerts/MyAlerts.aspx

then [Edit delivery] (on the desired provider)

then [Edit your e-mail settings] (if that is what you want to change)


---

 

[Ildhund]

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

http://alerts.live.com/Alerts/MyAlerts.aspx
then [Edit delivery] (on the desired provider)
then [Edit your e-mail settings] (if that is what you want to change)

Have you tried that? As far as I can see, all I can edit is the /settings/ for that e-mail account (as it says). No way to change it...