Opinion of Registry fix / repair programs

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Guest

There are several Windows Registry fix / repair programs on the market such
as Registry Mechanic by PC Tools Software and RegistryFix by RegistryFix.com.
The limited freeware versions of these programs say that I have several
hundred fixable items in my registry but they won't fix the problems for free
since they want me to buy their $29.99 program.

Are these programs effective and are they SAFE for an intermediate level
user to use? My Compaq Presario V2000 bootup is very slow and the Registry
backup file is a huge 422.4 MB. I have heard that tampering with the
registry can be very dangerous and I am not a Windows expert.
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "PSRumbagh" <[email protected]>

| There are several Windows Registry fix / repair programs on the market such
| as Registry Mechanic by PC Tools Software and RegistryFix by RegistryFix.com.
| The limited freeware versions of these programs say that I have several
| hundred fixable items in my registry but they won't fix the problems for free
| since they want me to buy their $29.99 program.
|
| Are these programs effective and are they SAFE for an intermediate level
| user to use? My Compaq Presario V2000 bootup is very slow and the Registry
| backup file is a huge 422.4 MB. I have heard that tampering with the
| registry can be very dangerous and I am not a Windows expert.

Don't use them.
They can cause MORE problems then you are trying to resolve.
 
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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM

PSRumbagh said:
There are several Windows Registry fix / repair programs on the market
such
as Registry Mechanic by PC Tools Software and RegistryFix by
RegistryFix.com.
The limited freeware versions of these programs say that I have several
hundred fixable items in my registry but they won't fix the problems for
free
since they want me to buy their $29.99 program.

Are these programs effective and are they SAFE for an intermediate level
user to use? My Compaq Presario V2000 bootup is very slow and the
Registry
backup file is a huge 422.4 MB. I have heard that tampering with the
registry can be very dangerous and I am not a Windows expert.

They are not effective; they don't make Windows any faster.
They are not safe. If you let them delete whatever they think they should
the machine may not boot.
 
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Peter Foldes

They are very dangerous, They can cause everything from not able to boot to very serious issues. Having extra entries in your Registry does nothing to your system. It does not cause for you system to slow down on boot.

Most probable reason for the slow boot of your system is too many programs that are in the Start Up.
Check 1 st in your MSConfig\Startup and see how many and which ones you do not need at start up. Then check your Start up folder on Start\Programs \Start Up. Disable\Remove the ones that are not needed. I myself do not have any in either Msconfig or in Start Up.
Post back for further info if needed.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

PSRumbagh said:
There are several Windows Registry fix / repair programs on the
market such as Registry Mechanic by PC Tools Software and RegistryFix
by RegistryFix.com. The limited freeware versions of these programs
say that I have several hundred fixable items in my registry but they
won't fix the problems for free since they want me to buy their
$29.99 program.

Are these programs effective and are they SAFE for an intermediate
level user to use?


No and no.

I strongly recommend *against* the routine use of registry cleaners. Routine
cleaning of the registry isn't needed and
is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use a registry cleaner.
Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, having
unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit it may
have.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

PSRumbagh said:
There are several Windows Registry fix / repair programs on the market such
as Registry Mechanic by PC Tools Software and RegistryFix by RegistryFix.com.
The limited freeware versions of these programs say that I have several
hundred fixable items in my registry but they won't fix the problems for free
since they want me to buy their $29.99 program.

Are these programs effective and are they SAFE for an intermediate level
user to use?


No and No.

My Compaq Presario V2000 bootup is very slow .....


Have you scanned for malware? How many unnecessary applications do you
have running in the background? How often do you clean the hard drive
of temporary files and defrag it?

... and the Registry
backup file is a huge 422.4 MB.


Completely irrelevant, unless it's badly fragmented.


I have heard that tampering with the
registry can be very dangerous and I am not a Windows expert.


Very true.

What specific problems are you *actually experiencing* (not some
snake oil program's bogus listing of imaginary problems)?

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change. Having seen the results of inexperienced people
using automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user.

The only thing needed to safely clean your registry is knowledge
and Regedit.exe. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain
your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

Further, no one has ever demonstrated, to my satisfaction, that the
use of an automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good. There's certainly been
no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
or stability.

I always use Regedit.exe. I trust my own experience and judgment
far more than I would any automated registry cleaner. I strongly
encourage others to acquire the knowledge, as well.



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Rock

PSRumbagh said:
There are several Windows Registry fix / repair programs on the market
such
as Registry Mechanic by PC Tools Software and RegistryFix by
RegistryFix.com.
The limited freeware versions of these programs say that I have several
hundred fixable items in my registry but they won't fix the problems for
free
since they want me to buy their $29.99 program.

Are these programs effective and are they SAFE for an intermediate level
user to use? My Compaq Presario V2000 bootup is very slow and the
Registry
backup file is a huge 422.4 MB. I have heard that tampering with the
registry can be very dangerous and I am not a Windows expert.


I recommend against using it in the automatic mode. If you have knowledge
of the registry and use a registry cleaner to give advice on what could be
removed, and then research what the suggestions are and make an informed
decision, that's a better use.

On the other hand unused entries in the registry don't generally cause a
problem. The registry is not accessed sequentially so it doesn't matter if
there are a few hundred unused entries. In some cases when installing
software an entry from a previous installation and removal where the entry
is still there might cause a problem. But then deal with the problem when
it happens, not from the viewpoint of running a registry cleaner just for
the sake of "cleaning" the registry.
 
G

Guest

In general, I shy away from the regular use of "registry cleaners" - as it's
been my experience that eventually they'll delete something of importance and
hose the entire system.

Also, I only recommend using the manual registry cleaners (where you have to
select the entries to remove) - such as the last freeware version of JV16
PowerTools.

Finally, for a "tuneup" every 6 months or so, I recommend the registry
cleaner at http://safety.live.com. My basis for this is that it's the only
tool made by the folks who made the registry in the first place.

BTW - there's an excellent thread by MVP Bill Caster about this at this URL:
http://www.windowsbbs.com/showthread.php?t=61015

- John
 

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