Ooops! Poor Windoze

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Jeffrey said:
I suppose linux has no way of defragging a HD then? Heaven help you!

No need to defrag a disk with Linux on it.
So your saying the correct anti-malware programs should be updated
manually? Whats wrong with one that does it automatically???

Most anti malware programs like Spybot and AdAware have to be updated
manually. Linux has no need for such apps.
I don't think there's a single programs or OS out there that has never
been updated or won't be updated. I suppose your still running version
1.0 of ubuttoo?

I thought we were talking about security updates. Linux, by its very
nature, hasn't the security problems that Windows has.
I would hope you would know their available if you were the one
installing them in the first place.

Some apps that need updating manually and knowing that updates exist:

Java

Adobe Reader

Spybot Search and Destroy

AdAware

Spywareblaster

Crap Cleaner

Windows itself unless you foolishly think that auto updates is the best
thing since sliced bread.

etc., etc., etc.
Actually, I believe once everyone starts writing software for vista it
will be the same way.

Don't hold your breath.
It already downloads 3rd party driver updates.

Ones you would be foolish to download when newer ones can be found at
the manufacturer's web site. Hardware drivers on Windows Updates are
notorious for being months behind the latest drivers and most likely
older than the ones you have now.
You obviously don't.

Jeff

I don't think so, chum.

Alias
 
Justin said:
BS. All lies. You are adding up all Windows updates and comparing them
to one distro of linux. Get a clue.

I quote what you snipped:

I wrote:

"Windows is much less secure than Linux. This is an irrefutable fact so
stop trying."

You replied:

"Another irrefutable fact [Alias' note: this is where Justin agrees with
me that Linux is more secure than Windows and that that is an
irrefutable fact] (one we're actually talking about) is that linux
requires security patches just like every other OS. So stop trying."

Then use something like crap cleaner where you can designate cookies you
want to keep. Handy little program that one. With Ubuntu, one little
reboot clears temp files you're not using.
It's ok alias, we all know you talk out of your rear.

Is this your idea of a bed side manner, Justin?
I have no
intention of deleting files that will just be downloaded again for each
site I normally visit.

See above and learn how to maintain your Windows properly.
Next time, make sure you clearly state WHICH
temp files.

I have very little that I see any need to keep and those that I need to
keep are protected nicely by crap cleaner.
Such as? As usual this makes no sense. File handling is file handling.
What's going to happen? Is the power going to turn off in the middle of
defragging? So what! Information is WRITTEN before it's removed.

OK, OK, this may be a good feature of the new Windows but, being as it's
totally unnecessary with Ubuntu ... not a big selling point over Ubuntu.

LOL! What do you use MS NO Care and Defender?
In your dreams! So this is your defense? Weak!

OK, I'm game, which ones do you use?
Never?


Hundreds? BS. All lies. Nothing but lies come from you.

I've download quite a few for Office, hundreds. Do you think you're
talking to someone that has no experience with Windows Updates?
Wow! So ubuntu knocks on every vendors door and get all patches from
them? All hundreds of thousands of vendors?

BS.

I repeat, it updates your entire computer, all the programs, drivers,
*everything*. Groovy, yes? A reinstall of the OS, updates and programs
the other day took me under two hours and most of that required no user
input. A real nice walk in the park compared to reinstalling Windows.
Exactly! Nothing was your point.

See above.
So this is your point? Because it does not take me HOURS to protect a
machine then I know nothing?

You do realize that everyone can read this right?

Hilarious!!!

See above. Read it carefully.

Alias
 
Frank said:
Alias wrote:

<-------------delete bs & lies-------------->

You told us Ubuttoo was totally secure. Now I find this is simply not true.
What's the real truth?

http://www.heise-security.co.uk/news/78522

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56306

Getting Security Updates

"This is probably a stupid question, but I'll ask anyway. I've seen
quite a few ubuntu notices and updates on security sites recently...."

Earthquakes affect security...!

http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/12/earthquake-in-taiwan-affects-ubuntu-security-updates.html


In the mean time I just love flipping this cube thingie in Ubuttoo.
Flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip flip, flip, flip, flip,
flip, flip, flip, flop, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip flip, flip,
flip, flip, flip, flip, flip,flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip,
flip...OMG...this could be addicting...flip, flip, flip, flip, flip,
flip, flip, flip flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flop, flip,
flip, flip, flip, flip, flip flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip,
flip,flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip....Wow, I'm beginning to
feel like Dr. Strangelove.

Anyway alias (you're an ex-patriot right?) why don't you use your real
name? Hiding from someone or some agency? You don't have any wants &
warrants from the good'old US of A do you?
Whatever...you said we could run MS Office (which version...2007?) &
Adobe Photoshop (version CS3...?) on Ubuttoo.
Please take us through the step-by-step process of doing that, ok?
Many thanks!
In the meantime I'll just keep on flippin..flip, flip, flip, flip, flip,
flip, flip, flip flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flop, flip,
flip, flip, flip, flip, flip flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip,
flip,flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip...ok, time for me to get
back to work!
Frank

You deserve Windows.

Alias
 
................

Blah blah and blah.

Facts are alais, linux has security issues. You can make excuses and
apologize for linux all you want. But the reality remains that it has holes
and always will. All you need is one.

Plus all your BS and lies about having to spend HOURS maintaining Windows is
also complete and utter garbage. It doesn't surprise me that use an app
named CRAP. It's suites you well. However I do not need any such garbage.

So, once again you have many people telling you how wrong you are. Go ahead
alias, tell us again how right you THINK you are. What a joke.

Well, after waiting SIX HOURS for that crap ubuntu to download making sure
TWICE that this was selected:

"Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM,
AthlonTM, SempronTM)"

My initial attempt to install it failed. It told me to get a 32bit version.
Seeing as how there is a specific 64bit selection on the site.....WTF DID I
DOWNLOAD?!?!?!? The 128bit version? Or maybe the 16bit version?

What a total/complete waste of my time!!!! What did I get for it? The
knowledge that my test machine doesn't support "long".

Yeah, I can see how the average person that CAN'T get Vista to work is going
to get this pile of crap to work.
 
Alias said:
You deserve Windows.

Alias

ubudubu is a complete piece of crap. The "Standard personal computer (x86
architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)" will not install
on my Pentium 4 machines. Pathetic.

In fact, alias deserves ubudubu.
 
Justin said:
...............

Blah blah and blah.

Facts are alais, linux has security issues. You can make excuses and
apologize for linux all you want. But the reality remains that it
has holes and always will. All you need is one.

Plus all your BS and lies about having to spend HOURS maintaining
Windows is also complete and utter garbage. It doesn't surprise me
that use an app named CRAP. It's suites you well. However I do not
need any such garbage.
So, once again you have many people telling you how wrong you are. Go
ahead alias, tell us again how right you THINK you are. What a
joke.
Well, after waiting SIX HOURS for that crap ubuntu to download making
sure TWICE that this was selected:

"Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM,
AthlonTM, SempronTM)"

My initial attempt to install it failed. It told me to get a 32bit
version. Seeing as how there is a specific 64bit selection on the
site.....WTF DID I DOWNLOAD?!?!?!? The 128bit version? Or maybe the
16bit version?
What a total/complete waste of my time!!!! What did I get for it? The
knowledge that my test machine doesn't support "long".

Yeah, I can see how the average person that CAN'T get Vista to work
is going to get this pile of crap to work.

Actually most Linux distros install easily and perfectly if you know what
you're doing. :)
 
Justin said:
ubudubu is a complete piece of crap. The "Standard personal computer
(x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)" will not
install on my Pentium 4 machines. Pathetic.

In fact, alias deserves ubudubu.

Huh?

You OK, Justin?

Alias
 
Justin said:
...............

Blah blah and blah.

Facts are alais, linux has security issues. You can make excuses and
apologize for linux all you want. But the reality remains that it has
holes and always will. All you need is one.

Plus all your BS and lies about having to spend HOURS maintaining
Windows is also complete and utter garbage. It doesn't surprise me that
use an app named CRAP. It's suites you well. However I do not need any
such garbage.

So, once again you have many people telling you how wrong you are. Go
ahead alias, tell us again how right you THINK you are. What a joke.

Well, after waiting SIX HOURS for that crap ubuntu to download making
sure TWICE that this was selected:

"Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM,
AthlonTM, SempronTM)"

My initial attempt to install it failed. It told me to get a 32bit
version. Seeing as how there is a specific 64bit selection on the
site.....WTF DID I DOWNLOAD?!?!?!? The 128bit version? Or maybe the
16bit version?

What a total/complete waste of my time!!!! What did I get for it? The
knowledge that my test machine doesn't support "long".

Yeah, I can see how the average person that CAN'T get Vista to work is
going to get this pile of crap to work.

You're blustering, old son. I saw an eight year old install Ubuntu the
other day with no problems. Maybe you need to get an eight year old to
install it for you.

Alias
 
Alias said:
You deserve Windows.

Alias

You know, you're absolutely correct. In fact, I'm all flipped out! I
gave the Ubuttoo cubie thingie to one of my associates and his 5 yr old
kid just loves it!
You might even say "he's flippin out" over it!
Frank
 
Alias said:
You're blustering, old son. I saw an eight year old install Ubuntu the
other day with no problems. Maybe you need to get an eight year old to
install it for you.

Alias

Yeah, that must be it. Boot from CD and select install to get error
message. I can see where I went wrong!

Excuses, excuses...
 
Alias said:
Interesting.

Alias

Did you read it? It is hilarious and stunningly accurate at the same
time. Below is one of my favorite parts:

" Imagine a crossroads where four competing auto dealerships are
situated. One of them (Microsoft) is much, much bigger than the others.
It started out years ago selling three-speed bicycles (MS-DOS); these
were not perfect, but they worked, and when they broke you could easily
fix them.

There was a competing bicycle dealership next door (Apple) that one day
began selling motorized vehicles--expensive but attractively styled cars
with their innards hermetically sealed, so that how they worked was
something of a mystery.

The big dealership responded by rushing a moped upgrade kit (the
original Windows) onto the market. This was a Rube Goldberg contraption
that, when bolted onto a three-speed bicycle, enabled it to keep up,
just barely, with Apple-cars. The users had to wear goggles and were
always picking bugs out of their teeth while Apple owners sped along in
hermetically sealed comfort, sneering out the windows. But the
Micro-mopeds were cheap, and easy to fix compared with the Apple-cars,
and their market share waxed.

Eventually the big dealership came out with a full-fledged car: a
colossal station wagon (Windows 95). It had all the aesthetic appeal of
a Soviet worker housing block, it leaked oil and blew gaskets, and it
was an enormous success. A little later, they also came out with a
hulking off-road vehicle intended for industrial users (Windows NT)
which was no more beautiful than the station wagon, and only a little
more reliable.

Since then there has been a lot of noise and shouting, but little has
changed. The smaller dealership continues to sell sleek Euro-styled
sedans and to spend a lot of money on advertising campaigns. They have
had GOING OUT OF BUSINESS! signs taped up in their windows for so long
that they have gotten all yellow and curly. The big one keeps making
bigger and bigger station wagons and ORVs.

On the other side of the road are two competitors that have come along
more recently.

One of them (Be, Inc.) is selling fully operational Batmobiles (the
BeOS). They are more beautiful and stylish even than the Euro-sedans,
better designed, more technologically advanced, and at least as reliable
as anything else on the market--and yet cheaper than the others.

With one exception, that is: Linux, which is right next door, and which
is not a business at all. It's a bunch of RVs, yurts, tepees, and
geodesic domes set up in a field and organized by consensus. The people
who live there are making tanks. These are not old-fashioned, cast-iron
Soviet tanks; these are more like the M1 tanks of the U.S. Army, made of
space-age materials and jammed with sophisticated technology from one
end to the other. But they are better than Army tanks. They've been
modified in such a way that they never, ever break down, are light and
maneuverable enough to use on ordinary streets, and use no more fuel
than a subcompact car. These tanks are being cranked out, on the spot,
at a terrific pace, and a vast number of them are lined up along the
edge of the road with keys in the ignition. Anyone who wants can simply
climb into one and drive it away for free.

Customers come to this crossroads in throngs, day and night. Ninety
percent of them go straight to the biggest dealership and buy station
wagons or off-road vehicles. They do not even look at the other dealerships.

Of the remaining ten percent, most go and buy a sleek Euro-sedan,
pausing only to turn up their noses at the philistines going to buy the
station wagons and ORVs. If they even notice the people on the opposite
side of the road, selling the cheaper, technically superior vehicles,
these customers deride them cranks and half-wits.

The Batmobile outlet sells a few vehicles to the occasional car nut who
wants a second vehicle to go with his station wagon, but seems to
accept, at least for now, that it's a fringe player.

The group giving away the free tanks only stays alive because it is
staffed by volunteers, who are lined up at the edge of the street with
bullhorns, trying to draw customers' attention to this incredible
situation. A typical conversation goes something like this:

Hacker with bullhorn: "Save your money! Accept one of our free tanks! It
is invulnerable, and can drive across rocks and swamps at ninety miles
an hour while getting a hundred miles to the gallon!"

Prospective station wagon buyer: "I know what you say is
true...but...er...I don't know how to maintain a tank!"

Bullhorn: "You don't know how to maintain a station wagon either!"

Buyer: "But this dealership has mechanics on staff. If something goes
wrong with my station wagon, I can take a day off work, bring it here,
and pay them to work on it while I sit in the waiting room for hours,
listening to elevator music."

Bullhorn: "But if you accept one of our free tanks we will send
volunteers to your house to fix it for free while you sleep!"

Buyer: "Stay away from my house, you freak!"

Bullhorn: "But..."

Buyer: "Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?"

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"hahaha...oh, I do detect a hint of jealousy or what! Where Darrell
actually helps people all you do is beg for attention. Shame on you! Go
get professional psychological clinical help with your obvious problems
and stop your bandwidth sucking bullshit postings in this ng. (rip,
snort, belch, burp, chuckle)"

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
Doris said:
Alias wrote:




And Windoze deserves Frankie. A pair of love birds, like 2 pees in a
porta-potty.

Love and Kisses,
Doris


Oh Doris, I heard you and alias have been secretly meeting. That's ok,
everybody needs someone even if they are...well...we won't go there now
will we.
Your secret is safe with me!
Tata.
Frank
 
Nina said:
Did you read it? It is hilarious and stunningly accurate at the same
time. Below is one of my favorite parts:

" Imagine a crossroads where four competing auto dealerships are
situated. One of them (Microsoft) is much, much bigger than the others.
It started out years ago selling three-speed bicycles (MS-DOS); these
were not perfect, but they worked, and when they broke you could easily
fix them.

There was a competing bicycle dealership next door (Apple) that one day
began selling motorized vehicles--expensive but attractively styled cars
with their innards hermetically sealed, so that how they worked was
something of a mystery.

The big dealership responded by rushing a moped upgrade kit (the
original Windows) onto the market. This was a Rube Goldberg contraption
that, when bolted onto a three-speed bicycle, enabled it to keep up,
just barely, with Apple-cars. The users had to wear goggles and were
always picking bugs out of their teeth while Apple owners sped along in
hermetically sealed comfort, sneering out the windows. But the
Micro-mopeds were cheap, and easy to fix compared with the Apple-cars,
and their market share waxed.

Eventually the big dealership came out with a full-fledged car: a
colossal station wagon (Windows 95). It had all the aesthetic appeal of
a Soviet worker housing block, it leaked oil and blew gaskets, and it
was an enormous success. A little later, they also came out with a
hulking off-road vehicle intended for industrial users (Windows NT)
which was no more beautiful than the station wagon, and only a little
more reliable.

Since then there has been a lot of noise and shouting, but little has
changed. The smaller dealership continues to sell sleek Euro-styled
sedans and to spend a lot of money on advertising campaigns. They have
had GOING OUT OF BUSINESS! signs taped up in their windows for so long
that they have gotten all yellow and curly. The big one keeps making
bigger and bigger station wagons and ORVs.

On the other side of the road are two competitors that have come along
more recently.

One of them (Be, Inc.) is selling fully operational Batmobiles (the
BeOS). They are more beautiful and stylish even than the Euro-sedans,
better designed, more technologically advanced, and at least as reliable
as anything else on the market--and yet cheaper than the others.

With one exception, that is: Linux, which is right next door, and which
is not a business at all. It's a bunch of RVs, yurts, tepees, and
geodesic domes set up in a field and organized by consensus. The people
who live there are making tanks. These are not old-fashioned, cast-iron
Soviet tanks; these are more like the M1 tanks of the U.S. Army, made of
space-age materials and jammed with sophisticated technology from one
end to the other. But they are better than Army tanks. They've been
modified in such a way that they never, ever break down, are light and
maneuverable enough to use on ordinary streets, and use no more fuel
than a subcompact car. These tanks are being cranked out, on the spot,
at a terrific pace, and a vast number of them are lined up along the
edge of the road with keys in the ignition. Anyone who wants can simply
climb into one and drive it away for free.

Customers come to this crossroads in throngs, day and night. Ninety
percent of them go straight to the biggest dealership and buy station
wagons or off-road vehicles. They do not even look at the other
dealerships.

Of the remaining ten percent, most go and buy a sleek Euro-sedan,
pausing only to turn up their noses at the philistines going to buy the
station wagons and ORVs. If they even notice the people on the opposite
side of the road, selling the cheaper, technically superior vehicles,
these customers deride them cranks and half-wits.

The Batmobile outlet sells a few vehicles to the occasional car nut who
wants a second vehicle to go with his station wagon, but seems to
accept, at least for now, that it's a fringe player.

The group giving away the free tanks only stays alive because it is
staffed by volunteers, who are lined up at the edge of the street with
bullhorns, trying to draw customers' attention to this incredible
situation. A typical conversation goes something like this:

Hacker with bullhorn: "Save your money! Accept one of our free tanks! It
is invulnerable, and can drive across rocks and swamps at ninety miles
an hour while getting a hundred miles to the gallon!"

Prospective station wagon buyer: "I know what you say is
true...but...er...I don't know how to maintain a tank!"

Bullhorn: "You don't know how to maintain a station wagon either!"

Buyer: "But this dealership has mechanics on staff. If something goes
wrong with my station wagon, I can take a day off work, bring it here,
and pay them to work on it while I sit in the waiting room for hours,
listening to elevator music."

Bullhorn: "But if you accept one of our free tanks we will send
volunteers to your house to fix it for free while you sleep!"

Buyer: "Stay away from my house, you freak!"

Bullhorn: "But..."

Buyer: "Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?"

So true!

Alias
 
Justin said:
Yeah, that must be it. Boot from CD and select install to get error
message. I can see where I went wrong!

You need to provide more information but it sounds like you didn't burn
the CD properly and/or downloaded the wrong version for your computer.
Excuses, excuses...

That's all you seem to have, excuses. Found an eight year old to help
you yet?

Alias
 
Alias said:
You need to provide more information but it sounds like you didn't burn
the CD properly and/or downloaded the wrong version for your computer.


That's all you seem to have, excuses. Found an eight year old to help you
yet?

Alias

HAHAHAHA!!! Your pathetic attempt to spin that has failed. Nice try
though....eh, not really.
 
Justin said:
HAHAHAHA!!! Your pathetic attempt to spin that has failed. Nice try
though....eh, not really.

Please address content if you can and try to refrain from resorting to
personal attacks.

I guess you haven't found an eight year old to help you install Unbuntu.
Maybe a neighborhood kid has the time to help you out?

Alias
 
Alias said:
Please address content if you can and try to refrain from resorting to
personal attacks.

I guess you haven't found an eight year old to help you install Unbuntu.
Maybe a neighborhood kid has the time to help you out?

Alias

It can't be installed. I downloaded it twice and it gives the same error
when you select install on boot. There is nothing for an 8 year old, I mean
there is nothing for you to do.

Go ahead alias, let's here all your excuses for linux! Or you can always
cry like a baby about attacks. That always helps you to avoid embarrassing
situations.
 
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