Ongoing printer costs

[Henry SC]

I'm looking at a couple of printers - the HP 6122 and the Canon i470 (these
are models available in the UK and they may have different names elsewhere).

I'm curious to know the "refillability" of their printer cartridges - does
anyone have experience of doing so with either of these machines, as I'd
rather not pay the full whack for new cartridges every time they get low?

Many thanks.

 

[Bill]

I'm looking at a couple of printers - the HP 6122 and the Canon i470 (these
are models available in the UK and they may have different names elsewhere).

I'm curious to know the "refillability" of their printer cartridges - does
anyone have experience of doing so with either of these machines, as I'd
rather not pay the full whack for new cartridges every time they get low?

I would look at the Canon i550, i850, s820 and s750 models...they all
use individual ink tanks and can be refilled easier than the i470 or HP
6122 which both use tri-colour ink cartridges.

The i850 would produce the best photos, if you're curious.

 

[Yianni]

You should either consider the JetTec Canon range as they have a larger
ink

reservoir and smaller sponge area - much better design and price.
Or consider refilling with the Jetset ink range - but in any case go for a
Canon.
As at www.inkylink.co.uk

I think you own this board for advertising. It's annoying.

On the other hand you "advertise" good "things" that worth nothing. You said
many times about Jettec bigger reservoir. Have you ever tried to do a yield
test? Bigger jettek reservoir balances the bad ink! Because of the ink the
printer consumes more ink. Have you ever seen any label about higher
yield??? Not the ink quantity makes the quality, neither ink quantity means
alwarys higher yield.
For your information I have seen inks that consumed double than oem (not the
jettec). Jettec consumed a percentage more than oem.

 

[Tony1thatmatters]

It cannot be annoying when its purpose is to help those who need it. In any
case when annoyed take your nose out and ignore the post: it could become an
obsession.
Dealers and distributors collect mass facts from thousand of clients and
some of us pass that on.
And when you make statements on yield and consumption it may be best to back
that with credentials - otherwise it could be construed as plain peevish
wittering.
In the case of Canon and reservior size it is kinduf logical - Canon have it
wrong. Yes we constantly monitor yield tests - and JetTec formulars are
surprisingly similar to Epson and Canon.
And in a week or so surprise - genuine Lightfast pigmented ink: by popular
demand.
But I'm sure you'll find something picky and wrong with that. Jut fancy it
could get up the noses of kitchen table dealers flogging dye inks for
pigment ink designed printers.
It may take masses of self control but you really should ignore items where
your superior knowledge leaves you jaded and bored.
Those who need suggestions only ask because they don't know - and the
Internet breeds them at around 10,000 per day. Unfortunately some of the
quasi expert advice they are given is perfunctory and dare we say it -
insular and biased.
The sig is there to prove we back up thoughtful advice. But , if you have
any other problems such as English structure - I'd be pleased to possibly
help. At www.inkylink.co.uk
Tony

 

[Taliesyn]

I think you own this board for advertising. It's annoying.

On the other hand you "advertise" good "things" that worth nothing. You said
many times about Jettec bigger reservoir. Have you ever tried to do a yield
test? Bigger jettek reservoir balances the bad ink! Because of the ink the
printer consumes more ink. Have you ever seen any label about higher
yield??? Not the ink quantity makes the quality, neither ink quantity means
alwarys higher yield.
For your information I have seen inks that consumed double than oem (not the
jettec). Jettec consumed a percentage more than oem.

You stated: "Bigger jettek reservoir balances the bad ink!"....

Your bizarre and intentionally malicious, misinformed comments are
MORE than irritating. THEY'RE NOT WANTED! A printer will only use
the exact amount of ink drops it is programmed to spit out or clean
the print head with, and not one drop more or less, regardless of what
you put in the cartridge - Canon ink, Jet Tec ink, or Kool-Aid ;-)

Jet Tec is one of the more respected companies. And from what I've
read, Europe's #1 producer of compatible inkjet cartridges. In fact
I just saw them advertised in Canada now. My own favorite supplier
of cartridges and bulk inks is Atlantic Inkjet (there, that should
irritate you!).

I admire the larger Jet Tec cartridges and ingenious snap-back-on
covers over the exit holes. These cartridges are made especially
for refillers like us. Canon cartridges are made smaller because
they want you to buy more (there's no reason for the sponge to
be that large). I would like to get some Jet Tec in the BCI-3e
cartridge-type.

-Taliesyn

 

[Tony1thatmatters]

for refillers like us. Canon cartridges are made smaller because
they want you to buy more (there's no reason for the sponge to
be that large). I would like to get some Jet Tec in the BCI-3e
cartridge-type.

-Taliesyn

That's pretty simple go here www.inkylink.co.uk
Tony

 

[Taliesyn]

That's pretty simple go here www.inkylink.co.uk
Tony

Thanks, I appreciate the help.

-Taliesyn

 

[Yianni]

You stated: "Bigger jettek reservoir balances the bad ink!"....

A printer will only use
the exact amount of ink drops it is programmed to spit out or clean
the print head with, and not one drop more or less, regardless of what
you put in the cartridge - Canon ink, Jet Tec ink, or Kool-Aid ;-)

You are totaly wrong. Ink consumption depends on ink's surface tension, (and
then on viscosity). The size of each dropplet is formulated depends on
surface tension of the ink. The lower the surface tension the bigger the
dropplets. Trust me I know what I say... If you want I have documents for
that. I have seen an ink consumed twice than another one.
On the other hand, if you see ALL the sponge/void type cartridges in the
market (begining from epson so20047, ...49, ...38, etc, to canon, etc, -I
could mention at least 15 different coded such type cartridges-) the sponge
is the 1/3 of the cart, and 2/3 the void. There is DO a spesific reason for
that!

Jet Tec is one of the more respected companies. And from what I've
read, Europe's #1 producer of compatible inkjet cartridges. In fact
I just saw them advertised in Canada now. My own favorite supplier
of cartridges and bulk inks is Atlantic Inkjet (there, that should
irritate you!).

I know that Korean jettec is #1 in sales in Europe or at least in the top
places. I know also Atlantic company. But it isn't polite to say for myself,
is it? Sorry, my English is not much good to express better what I mean. I
never trust persons which if they found a place fills up it with
advertisments.

I admire the larger Jet Tec cartridges and ingenious snap-back-on
covers over the exit holes. These cartridges are made especially
for refillers like us. Canon cartridges are made smaller because
they want you to buy more (there's no reason for the sponge to
be that large). I would like to get some Jet Tec in the BCI-3e
cartridge-type.

The snap-back plug is usefull, but don't forget that the original oem plug
could be used with a tape or rubber band.
When you buy some jettec bci-3 carts, remember to measure yield (if you
could, because it's a bit complicated, you need a presice weight scale).

My disagreement is about "advertising" in this ng, see bellow the three last
advertisements of Tony1thatmatters! They don't have much to add in this ng.
The only he says is that my products are the best. What will happen if 20
more resellers, manufacturers or distributors in the world "discover" this
ng??? It's ok, someone to post a notice once or twice, but...
Do you want tomorrow all the bellow companies to advertise here? They are
few I could recall:

jettec
ramora
cbr
rjettek
red shark
static control
printchip ltd
kmp
oliser
graphic utilities
greenman
electrojet
inklab
mmc
lyson
pelekan
greentec
printrite
g&g
katun
farbax
printstar
, etc.

 

[Taliesyn]

You are totaly wrong. Ink consumption depends on ink's surface tension, (and
then on viscosity). The size of each dropplet is formulated depends on
surface tension of the ink. The lower the surface tension the bigger the
dropplets. Trust me I know what I say... If you want I have documents for
that. I have seen an ink consumed twice than another one.
On the other hand, if you see ALL the sponge/void type cartridges in the
market (begining from epson so20047, ...49, ...38, etc, to canon, etc, -I
could mention at least 15 different coded such type cartridges-) the sponge
is the 1/3 of the cart, and 2/3 the void. There is DO a spesific reason for
that!

If Tony says the cartridges are 1/4 (or whatever) larger, we believe
him, because they physically are. You can buy one and see for yourself.

If you say Jet Tec is "bad ink" (your words), can you show us official,
signed chemical/physical analysis that shows the viscosity/surface
tension of Jet Tec ink to be inferior to OEMs? Without this proof you
are talking hot air and not taken seriously.

I know that Korean jettec is #1 in sales in Europe or at least in the top
places. I know also Atlantic company. But it isn't polite to say for myself,
is it? Sorry, my English is not much good to express better what I mean. I
never trust persons which if they found a place fills up it with
advertisments.

If someone asks in this newsgroup, what is a good printer. And you
say Lexmark Z99 ;-). Isn't that an advertisement? Of course it is!
There's a narrow line between help, recommendations and advertisement,
so live with it. Because you only use OEM cartridges, you have no
right to interfere with others who may have a use for Jet Tec (inkylink)
or Atlantic Inkjet, or some other service. And I seriously doubt your
posts are helping anyone right now.

The snap-back plug is usefull, but don't forget that the original oem plug
could be used with a tape or rubber band.
When you buy some jettec bci-3 carts, remember to measure yield (if you
could, because it's a bit complicated, you need a presice weight scale).

I'm simply interested in these cartridges. I refill for under a Dollar a
cartridge. So who the hell cares at that price how many pages I get with
a fill. A quick estimate tells me that it costs me about .002 cents per
page. Is that low enough? That's not 2 cents by the way, check the
decimal point!

My disagreement is about "advertising" in this ng, see bellow the three last
advertisements of Tony1thatmatters! They don't have much to add in this ng.
The only he says is that my products are the best. What will happen if 20
more resellers, manufacturers or distributors in the world "discover" this
ng??? It's ok, someone to post a notice once or twice, but...
Do you want tomorrow all the bellow companies to advertise here? They are
few I could recall:

jettec
ramora
cbr
rjettek
red shark
static control
printchip ltd
kmp
oliser
graphic utilities
greenman
electrojet
inklab
mmc
lyson
pelekan
greentec
printrite
g&g
katun
farbax
printstar
, etc.

Are you paranoid of brand names or something. I read all the posts and
don't even recall seeing any of the names except Lyson recently. They
make wonderful inks, by the way. And I'm sure with great viscosity and
surface tension. ;-)

-Taliesyn

 

[Smith]

Go with the hp6122 duplex great text and photos
Easy to refill

 

[Yianni]

I read all the posts and don't even recall seeing any of the names except

Lyson recently. They make wonderful inks, by the way. And I'm sure with
great viscosity and surface tension. ;-)

This is what reputable companies do, just a notice just one-two posts. And
of course Lyson is a leader in inkjet inks.
By the way, I suspect your are in UK, aren't you. If yes, it's easier to try
Lyson inks, if you intend to try them, please let me know, I'm interested
very much. And if you can send me some Lyson samples, I offer to send
you twice the quantities from an amercan manufacturer.

 

[Yianni]

From a newer post I realised you are in Canada, so forget lyson.

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