Omega drivers for Nvidia are AXED!?!

[Pluvious]

Found this on 3drage which came from Driver Heaven :

"Alot has been going on behind the scenes recently guys with Nvidia
regarding Omegas drivers and it looks like Omega might be forced to
stop making them. This is due to Nvidia hard handed tactics and not
wanting anyone to alter or touch their driver code in any way. Omega
has even had to remove Nvidia logos from his site or legal action will
be taken. This could possibly if taken further close these sites, so
we really have no option."


Gee... I wonder why Nvidia doesnt want someone hacking around in the
driver sets?.. .. could it be that someone might find some
"optimizing"? Pathetic.


Pluvious

 

[Blaedmon]

could be, could be not. could be that Nvidia is sick of lamers screwing up
things in the drivers and giving them a bad name? could be.

 

[Derek Wildstar]

Found this on 3drage which came from Driver Heaven :

"Alot has been going on behind the scenes recently guys with Nvidia
regarding Omegas drivers and it looks like Omega might be forced to
stop making them. This is due to Nvidia hard handed tactics and not
wanting anyone to alter or touch their driver code in any way. Omega
has even had to remove Nvidia logos from his site or legal action will
be taken. This could possibly if taken further close these sites, so
we really have no option."


Gee... I wonder why Nvidia doesnt want someone hacking around in the
driver sets?.. .. could it be that someone might find some
"optimizing"? Pathetic.


Pluvious

Or they do not want their valuable IP rights diluted by allowing
unauthorized modifcations by what could be the appearance of
semi-sanctioning.

 

[Raptor]

Found this on 3drage which came from Driver Heaven :

"Alot has been going on behind the scenes recently guys with Nvidia
regarding Omegas drivers and it looks like Omega might be forced to
stop making them. This is due to Nvidia hard handed tactics and not
wanting anyone to alter or touch their driver code in any way. Omega
has even had to remove Nvidia logos from his site or legal action will
be taken. This could possibly if taken further close these sites, so
we really have no option."


Gee... I wonder why Nvidia doesnt want someone hacking around in the
driver sets?.. .. could it be that someone might find some
"optimizing"? Pathetic.


Pluvious

Sounds like Nvidia is getting a little edgy. Think this "3Dmark" driver
<cough> enhancing episode had anything to do with it? Ever since I went
over to the dark side last chip cycle (9700pro) I could care less *what*
Nvidia does really.

 

[who be dat?]

could be that Nvidia is sick of lamers screwing up
things in the drivers and giving them a bad name? could be.

They can't do any worse than Nvidia has done...

Chris Smith

 

[NoRemorse]

-
William stood up, at show-n-tell, and said:


I can't wait to get that card. Price is still a little to high, right now,
for me. Buddy has the 9500 and, after running the GF4 Ti's for awhile, he's
totally ditched nVidia. I'm not far behind that path. Of course, I'm sure
that in another year or so nVidia will be top dog again...and the cycle will
continue. What I'm reading/hearing about the FX line does not really
impress me, at all.

This reminds me of all the hype about Geforce FX before it was launched.
Like it was supposed to replace an entire ILM render farm. Riiiiiiiiight.

 

[K]

They can't do any worse than Nvidia has done...

ATI have..

K

 

[Doug Hook]

could be, could be not. could be that Nvidia is sick of lamers screwing up
things in the drivers and giving them a bad name?

This guy that makes the Omega drivers is definetly not a lamer. I have run
most of his driver sets for a while (nvidia and ATI both) with no problems
at all. Nvidia are just too uptight.

 

[Doug Hook]

I can't wait to get that card. Price is still a little to high, right now,
for me. Buddy has the 9500 and, after running the GF4 Ti's for awhile, he's
totally ditched nVidia. I'm not far behind that path. Of course, I'm sure
that in another year or so nVidia will be top dog again...and the cycle will
continue. What I'm reading/hearing about the FX line does not really
impress me, at all.

My 9800pro 128 meg is the best piece of computer hardware I ever bought.

 

[J.Clarke]

This guy that makes the Omega drivers is definetly not a lamer. I have
run most of his driver sets for a while (nvidia and ATI both) with no
problems at all. Nvidia are just too uptight.

You can tell that in their attitude toward Linux. They need to make up
their minds whether they are in the software or the hardware business.

 

[Baked]

Gee... I wonder why Nvidia doesnt want someone hacking around in the
driver sets?.. .. could it be that someone might find some
"optimizing"? Pathetic.

Who cares? (only fanboys)

 

[bp]

Who cares? (only fanboys)

Only fanboys don't care. fanboy

 

[Toby Groves]

could be, could be not. could be that Nvidia is sick of lamers screwing up
things in the drivers and giving them a bad name? could be.

ROFLMAO!!!

Others giving them a bad name!?

Give me a break, they've done themselves more damage than anyone else
ever could have.

 

[Toby Groves]

Sounds like Nvidia is getting a little edgy. Think this "3Dmark" driver
<cough> enhancing episode had anything to do with it? Ever since I went
over to the dark side last chip cycle (9700pro) I could care less *what*
Nvidia does really.

They're in a complete spin atm. Timeline goes like this:

1. GF4 rules the roost, working on NV30, all is rosy.
2. 9700 appears way earlier than expected, kicks shit out of GF4
3. NV30 majorly delayed due to fabrication problems
4. NV30 final silicon at target speeds found to be slower than 9700
5. Forced to launch "overclocked" version of NV30 as 5800Ultra to beat 9700
6. 5800Ultra met with howls of laughter and derision by press
7. 9800 arrives to rub salt in
8. Resort to using driver cheats to make lacklustre cards look better
9. Driver cheats exposed, vilified by the press and public over debacle
9. NV35 arrives, what NV30 should have been, but way too expensive


Basically they can't do anything right atm. The NV30 was a complete joke. The
NV35 may be a good card, but it's horrendously expensive compared to the
competition, and I imagine has pissed off a good few 5800 Ultra owners. They've
been caught blatantly cheating with their drivers in a pathetic attempt to make
their kit look better and now they're just panicking.

 

[ginfest]

They're in a complete spin atm. Timeline goes like this:

1. GF4 rules the roost, working on NV30, all is rosy.
2. 9700 appears way earlier than expected, kicks shit out of GF4
3. NV30 majorly delayed due to fabrication problems
4. NV30 final silicon at target speeds found to be slower than 9700
5. Forced to launch "overclocked" version of NV30 as 5800Ultra to beat 9700
6. 5800Ultra met with howls of laughter and derision by press
7. 9800 arrives to rub salt in
8. Resort to using driver cheats to make lacklustre cards look better
9. Driver cheats exposed, vilified by the press and public over debacle
9. NV35 arrives, what NV30 should have been, but way too expensive

FUD snipped
Timeline:
NV outsells and outperforms all others
ATI finally get a good run with the 9700 in spite of the hardware failings
and driver incompatabilities with many games
NV30 announced
ATI fanbois get the shivers and all the old feelings of inadequecy
reappear-decision is made to spread FUD about NV thruout the web, leaders
are paid ATI syncophants
9800 is announced to fix some of the 9700 failings, hardware is more
expensive while basically the same core, drivers still are borked
NV30 fails miserably
NV35 is announced, ATI fanbois really worried, campaign of disinformation
continues, ATI drivers still s**k
From the start of the timeline, thru all the releases and BS, NV still
outsells ATI, NV drivers "just work" while ATI users need to use the Omega
drivers just to get by
Oh and BTW, all Omega does to either driver is change settings that can be s
et with Rivatuner, such as LOD increases, thereby getting better IQ with
less performance-now how is the loss of Omega altered NV drivers going to
hurt?

 

[Toby Groves]

<snip FUD and lies>

ROFLMAO!

 

[@ndrew]

They're in a complete spin atm. Timeline goes like this:

1. GF4 rules the roost, working on NV30, all is rosy.
2. 9700 appears way earlier than expected, kicks shit out of GF4
3. NV30 majorly delayed due to fabrication problems
4. NV30 final silicon at target speeds found to be slower than 9700
5. Forced to launch "overclocked" version of NV30 as 5800Ultra to beat 9700
6. 5800Ultra met with howls of laughter and derision by press
7. 9800 arrives to rub salt in
8. Resort to using driver cheats to make lacklustre cards look better
9. Driver cheats exposed, vilified by the press and public over debacle
9. NV35 arrives, what NV30 should have been, but way too expensive


Basically they can't do anything right atm. The NV30 was a complete joke. The
NV35 may be a good card, but it's horrendously expensive compared to the
competition, and I imagine has pissed off a good few 5800 Ultra owners. They've
been caught blatantly cheating with their drivers in a pathetic attempt to make
their kit look better and now they're just panicking.

What a load of crud ... simple fact all the companies cheat on drivers.
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTEx

Anyone who believes reviews on graphic cards on sites that use factory
samples is in cloud cuckoo land. That is most reviews btw.

Honestly both are good card manufacturers .. I own a Radeon 9800 Pro and
like it a lot, prioir to that owned Nvidia cards and even a Voodoo in the
old days.

Statements like the above show how immature some people are in their bias
towards one product ... sheesh.

And I will carry on the crosspost even though it is against my grain (sorry
for those who don't like them).

@ndrew

 

[neopolaris]

FUD snipped
Timeline:
NV outsells and outperforms all others
ATI finally get a good run with the 9700 in spite of the hardware failings
and driver incompatabilities with many games
NV30 announced
ATI fanbois get the shivers and all the old feelings of inadequecy
reappear-decision is made to spread FUD about NV thruout the web, leaders
are paid ATI syncophants
9800 is announced to fix some of the 9700 failings, hardware is more
expensive while basically the same core, drivers still are borked
NV30 fails miserably
NV35 is announced, ATI fanbois really worried, campaign of disinformation
continues, ATI drivers still s**k
From the start of the timeline, thru all the releases and BS, NV still
outsells ATI, NV drivers "just work" while ATI users need to use the Omega
drivers just to get by
Oh and BTW, all Omega does to either driver is change settings that can be s
et with Rivatuner, such as LOD increases, thereby getting better IQ with
less performance-now how is the loss of Omega altered NV drivers going to
hurt?

Well put. I'm surpised the ati newsgroup can keep up with all the posted
problems on their board. What a mess.