old dos s/w program

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eleaticus

I have proved insufficient in finding web solution, so please tell me:

how to get my old DOS database program running on XP? The error message is
that it is trying to access the hard drive??

That's true!

As far as I know there is no firewall, the AVG is out on this inherited
system

Thanks

oren
 
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SC Tom

eleaticus said:
I have proved insufficient in finding web solution, so please tell me:

how to get my old DOS database program running on XP? The error
message is that it is trying to access the hard drive??

That's true!

As far as I know there is no firewall, the AVG is out on this
inherited system

Thanks

oren

Cna you tell us the name of the program? Someone here may have had some
experience in getting it to run on XP.
 
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John John - MVP

eleaticus said:
I have proved insufficient in finding web solution, so please tell me:

how to get my old DOS database program running on XP? The error message is
that it is trying to access the hard drive??

That's true!

The program is trying to gain direct access to the hardware, that was
quite common on old DOS applications but Windows XP does not permit
direct disk or hardware access. Try running the application in a
virtual machine or in DOSBox.

John
 
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User66

eleaticus said:
I have proved insufficient in finding web solution, so please tell me:

how to get my old DOS database program running on XP? The error message is
that it is trying to access the hard drive??

That's true!

As far as I know there is no firewall, the AVG is out on this inherited
system

Thanks

oren

Just do the following to open a DOS window



1. Click 'START', 'All Programs', 'Accessories',' Command Prompt', to open the DOS screen with DOS
prompts C:\

2. Type 'CD\'

3. Type 'CD\your data base directory name'

4. Type either the Batch File or the Database Program name to execute

5. You can expand the little DOS directory by right clicking the 'Command Prompt', and Maximizing
the page.

6. Hope your Batch file is not set for the D: drive, if so change it to C: drive and run the Batch
file



Have fun


- User66
 
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eleaticus

edfair said:
How did you install it on XP?

One database I use requires the install to be made under DOS (dos
machine)and all the installed files copied into the program directory on
the XP machine with a desktop shortcut pointing to the app.

darn. I don't remember if I copied from CD or installed.

Thanks for these suggestions.

oren
 
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eleaticus

John John - MVP said:
The program is trying to gain direct access to the hardware, that was
quite common on old DOS applications but Windows XP does not permit
direct disk or hardware access. Try running the application in a
virtual machine or in DOSBox.

Virtual machine. Will do.

DOSBox? Commercial, I'm guessing. Will see.

Thanks

oren
 
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eleaticus

User66 said:
Just do the following to open a DOS window



1. Click 'START', 'All Programs', 'Accessories',' Command Prompt', to open the DOS screen with DOS
prompts C:\

2. Type 'CD\'

3. Type 'CD\your data base directory name'

4. Type either the Batch File or the Database Program name to execute

5. You can expand the little DOS directory by right clicking the 'Command Prompt', and Maximizing
the page.

6. Hope your Batch file is not set for the D: drive, if so change it to C: drive and run the Batch
file

If I get you, the execuatables are on the/a CD?

And the data are ...?

Thanks

heh heh

oren
 
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John John - MVP

eleaticus said:
If I get you, the execuatables are on the/a CD?

CD is a command, he means to use the Change Directory (CD) command to
navigate to the folder where your DOS application is installed. In any
case the information that he gave you is incorrect, the XP Command
Prompt (cmd.exe) IS NOT DOS, a lot of people think that because it
"looks" like the old DOS console that it must be DOS, they think that
DOS runs on XP as it did on Windows 9x, it doesn't.

John
 
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Twayne

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eleaticus said:
I have proved insufficient in finding web solution, so please tell me:

how to get my old DOS database program running on XP? The error
message is that it is trying to access the hard drive??

That's true!

As far as I know there is no firewall, the AVG is out on this
inherited system

Thanks

oren

Have you tried win 98 or 95 Compatability mode?

What is the name of the database program?

How much longer do you expect it to matter if you're running without AV or
firewall? At least turn on the XP firewall for gosh sake!
I predict your computer will crash hard shortly - work fast! A lot of
drive-bys are looking into your open ports.


HTH,

Twayne
 
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ANONYMOUS

It looks like you have a classic problem of dos programs running in XP with
SP2 or higher. I was running Borland Pascal on XP SP2 at one time and the
solution was to make the installed directory of the program readable and
writeable by everybody. To do this you need to make the folder "share this
folder on the network" and also "Allow network users to change my files".

Database, by its very nature is dynamic and so the data is changed
dynamically and so the folder should be writeable.

hth
 
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eleaticus

John John - MVP said:
CD is a command, he means to use the Change Directory (CD) command to
navigate to the folder where your DOS application is installed. In any
case the information that he gave you is incorrect, the XP Command
Prompt (cmd.exe) IS NOT DOS, a lot of people think that because it
"looks" like the old DOS console that it must be DOS, they think that
DOS runs on XP as it did on Windows 9x, it doesn't.

John

hmmm.

thanks

oren
 
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eleaticus

Twayne said:
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Have you tried win 98 or 95 Compatability mode?

What is the name of the database program?

How much longer do you expect it to matter if you're running without AV or
firewall? At least turn on the XP firewall for gosh sake!
I predict your computer will crash hard shortly - work fast! A lot of
drive-bys are looking into your open ports.

Oh oh!

filepro in all compat modes.

thanks
 
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eleaticus

ANONYMOUS said:
It looks like you have a classic problem of dos programs running in XP with
SP2 or higher. I was running Borland Pascal on XP SP2 at one time and the
solution was to make the installed directory of the program readable and
writeable by everybody. To do this you need to make the folder "share this
folder on the network" and also "Allow network users to change my files".

Database, by its very nature is dynamic and so the data is changed
dynamically and so the folder should be writeable.

ok. sounds good/possible.

oren
 
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Twayne

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There IS DOS on windows, and even Microsoft documents and recognizes it.
Would you call a piece of cake not cake because the whole cake isn't there?
You might rename it to a "piece of cake", b ut it's still cake.
The fact that it's a subset of the commonly known DOS commands does not
make it not a DOS.
The fact that its total repertoire of commands exceeds the old DOS
commands my many magnitudes does not say it's not DOS.
"DOS" is a name, NOT an operating sytem in these senses and there is
nothing I've seen where people often think anything about whether XP is
"running on" DOS! They simply haven't noticed that MS in their infinite
wisdom chose to rename it to a Command Prompt, but even MS describes it as A
DOS window.

Should a program try to use any of the removed DOS capabilities, or write
directly to disk which XP forbids, etc., then it's going to fail.
Compatability mode can help that in some cases but not all.
 
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John John - MVP

Twayne said:
There IS DOS on windows, and even Microsoft documents and recognizes
it. Would you call a piece of cake not cake because the whole cake isn't
there? You might rename it to a "piece of cake", b ut it's still cake.
The fact that it's a subset of the commonly known DOS commands does
not make it not a DOS.
The fact that its total repertoire of commands exceeds the old DOS
commands my many magnitudes does not say it's not DOS.
"DOS" is a name, NOT an operating sytem in these senses and there is
nothing I've seen where people often think anything about whether XP is
"running on" DOS! They simply haven't noticed that MS in their infinite
wisdom chose to rename it to a Command Prompt, but even MS describes it
as A DOS window.

Once again your are deliberately trying to muddle the issue, read the
subject header: "old dos s/w program". The OP is trying to run an old
16-bit DOS application, you ranting on that the 32-bit command processor
is DOS is not helping anything, you can't run any DOS applications in
the native command processor. When people speak of DOS they think back
to the old IBM DOS or the MS-DOS 16-bit operating systems and
applications. There is no DOS in Windows XP, all 16-bit applications
run inside a 32-bit virtual DOS machine.

John
 
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Could it possibly be that registry cleaners act on Twaynes brain instead of
his computer?
 

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