Office 2007

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Suzanne S. Barnhill

But you don't have to use "phil" as an AutoCorrect prompt for
"philosophical." You can use anything you like, such as "phix," say, or
anything else that you wouldn't ordinarily type as a word. This is good
practice for AutoText as well, so that you're not bothered by ScreenTips
when you don't want them.
 
B

Bob Buckland ?:-\)

You can download and install the Windows version of Open Office
http://openoffice.org at no cost. That's probably a better marker for how it would handle your needs and existing documents. There
are converters available for the Office 2007 XML files with the Open Office Oasis ones as well as older file types.

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That's actually kinda funny ...

I've just read through the year-old thread "how do i enable the old
menu bar" where many of the shortcomings of Office2007 have been
discussed, especially right after its release, and it does little to
enhance confidence in the new version.

But: I'm looking longingly at the recently introduced tiny notebook
computer (with 7" screen , 512 Mb RAM and 4 Gb storage, weighing 2
lbs., and a $350 price tag -- I don't want to get too specific lest
everyone suddenly rush off and sign up on the waiting list for the
$500 model that will have double those memory amounts in the same-size
unit) that runs on Linux and comes with 40 apps including OpenOffice
(plus, it says it can run XP Pro if you already own the disk). I
downloaded the 500-page OpenOffice manual, and it _looks_ like it can
do just about everything I'm used to (probably not Track Changes, but
that's not the sort of thing one would do on the road anyway). (I've
never had a reason to use a spreadsheet, so Excel is irrelevant.)

Am I missing something? Does OpenOffice have drawbacks I won't
discover until I try to start doing something a little sophisticated?

(I guess for me specifically, I need to know if it supports Unicode,
right-to-left, and character scripts.)

Thanks all! >>
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Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
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grammatim

Thanks ... I suspect it might be like moving from FrameMaker (Mac) to
Word (Windows), which I had to do when I got a job with a publisher
who only uses PCs and put one in my house. And I never moved to OS X
because Adobe bought out FrameMaker (for the purpose of destroying it)
and refused to make the upgrade leap. And, as I may have mentioned,
even though it released a recent Windows version, didn't give it
Unicode ability. That is, I'll miss some things but get used to its
new ways.

I wonder whether the Windows and Linux versions feel the same --
WinWord's keyboard shortcuts are rather different from MacWord;s, for
instance.
 
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Graham Mayor

Aeneas said:
Some, who take the time to read about what Office 2007 offers, will
decide it doesn't suit their needs and decide not to buy it; many
others will be impressed and buy it. Typically, those in the latter
group will take the time to learn the new user interface and how to
take advantage of other new features (both of which can be very
frustrating) and, in most cases, be rewarded for their efforts.

Others will have Office 2007 forced upon them by a decision of company
management. Some will refuse to spend the time to learn the new
interface and take advantage of the new features; instead they will
incessantly complain, often blaming the "evil empire (Microsoft)" or
their stupid bosses. Most who choose to endure the frustration of
learning the new software will be richly rewarded for their efforts.

I did not get involved in the beta trials - life's too short - but I have
been using Office 2007 since the launch and it certainly has merit, but for
those coming to it with an in-depth knowledge of the earlier version, the
change is traumatic. I now use it more or less continuously, but there is no
doubt I am less productive than I was with the earlier version, and when
faced with any complicated task it is usually simpler to start Word 2003
(which I still have available) and use that.

I personally think that Microsoft squandered good will from its vast user
base with this unneccessary change by not providing a backward compatible
user interface. Patrick Schmid's excellent Ribbon Customizer
http://ribboncustomizer.com/ goes some way to bridge the gap, but frankly
it gets in the way of learning the new layout.

Business will have a huge training implication to consider along with the
cost of the change. Users cannot simply abandon 2003 and start up work the
next day with 2007 without training or time to learn. Some users will have
been with the familiar Word layout for more than ten years. Ten years of
familiarity takes a lot of putting aside just for a pretty new face.

Then there are the implications for all the specialised processes using vba,
many of which will have to be re-written. Autotext no longer works properly
because of the lack of autocomplete (though potentially it is much better),
and it is much more difficult to customize the interface to suit personal
work practices. Even custom labels have to be re-compiled (though to be fair
that happened also at the change from Word 2000 to 2002). Only the XML file
format is really worth the effort, and that could have been added to 2003 as
the compatibility pack shows.

Excel too I now find much more difficult to use, though as I do not use it
to anything like the extent I use Word I can live with that. Only Outlook
and Publisher seem to have benefited from the changes and that is because
they have not been changed so much and the changes have been largely
beneficial. And I simply refuse to update FrontPage.

I am not averse to change and I am quite happy to learn new software if the
changes are truly beneficial. I am afraid that here the cosmetic changes are
not justified by the results. The old military expression 'bullshit baffles
brains' is well served by Office 2007 :(


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Phil

re Graham Mayor below

Thanks for all that. I agree with every word you say - Outlook2007 is
OK, an improvement I feel, but everything else is a disaster. I've
used WORD for at least 10 years, have written 2 books and god knows
how much else with it - thoroughly conversant with contents lists,
styles, change tracking, footnotes/endnotes, multi-section documents,
etc. Now its taking me weeks to get familiar with all this in 2007
and in every case so far, once i've found how to do it, I find it
harder and more awkward than it used to be. One major drawback in 2003
- very large documents - the 'Master Document' facility was a well
known shambles so I assumed it would be fixed. Has it? Not as far as I
can see.

I agree with Graham that one just has to keep both versions
available. Though I note that if I use WORD2003, next time I load
WORD2007 there's a 2 minute delay while something gets reconfigured.
Any way to stop that?

Phil
 
B

Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Phil,

There wasn't any specific focused work on the Master Documents area (originally added to match one in WordPerfect <g>). Some folks
have reported it being more stable than previously, which may be from the change to the new file formats and to some work on
stability in numbering and styles.

You can reduce the 'between versions' setup run behavior with the NoReReg registry key setting covered in the 'Multiple versions of
Word' section of http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928091

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re Graham Mayor below

Thanks for all that. I agree with every word you say - Outlook2007 is
OK, an improvement I feel, but everything else is a disaster. I've
used WORD for at least 10 years, have written 2 books and god knows
how much else with it - thoroughly conversant with contents lists,
styles, change tracking, footnotes/endnotes, multi-section documents,
etc. Now its taking me weeks to get familiar with all this in 2007
and in every case so far, once i've found how to do it, I find it
harder and more awkward than it used to be. One major drawback in 2003
- very large documents - the 'Master Document' facility was a well
known shambles so I assumed it would be fixed. Has it? Not as far as I
can see.

I agree with Graham that one just has to keep both versions
available. Though I note that if I use WORD2003, next time I load
WORD2007 there's a 2 minute delay while something gets reconfigured.
Any way to stop that?

Phil >>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
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grammatim

Does that suggest that Master Document in 2003 might work better on
the new format? Though, I installed the Compatibility Pack and don't
see any change at all in Word -- .docx didn't suddenly appear in the
Save As menu, for instance. I suppose I have to wait until someone
sends me a .docx file to see if it will open.
 
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Phil

Thanks Bob that seems to do the trick nicely. I notice Msoft as usual
issue all the usual warnings...

For WORD, EXCEL, ACCESS it now seems to work thus: Whatever version
was last loaded (2003 or 2007), if I double click a DOC, XLS, MDB file
then that version (2003 or 2007) gets used. Which is fine.

I wonder why Msoft never seem to think in terms of making life as easy
as possible for users? If they dis, they might think to mention these
things and not leave people to rummage round to find out!

I did have a quick look at OpenOffice but feel nervous about going
that route, it seems to spell even more change - different file
formats for example, and I tried to load a MDB database with BASE and
it freaked out and just disappeared. And my EXCEL XLS charts looked
very weird. I was impressed with the intuitively obvious UI,
reminiscent of Office2003.

Phil
 
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Graham Mayor

Master Document has not changed.
If you install the compatibility pack you should have Save As Word 2007
Document in the Save As dialog.

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