OEM Windows XP Pro thru VMWare requires activation ???

X

xp_newbie

I recently purchased a new laptop with Windows XP Professional
pre-installed (came with nice and shiny COA sticker affixed to the
bottom). Unfortunately, it came pre-loaded with promotionware and other
bloatware that I really don't want on my computer, so I used the
excellent instructions provided on the following web site:

http://www.4saad.com/WhatsNew/Fresh_XP_Install

to create a clean-install CD and use it to perform a clean install.
According to that web site I should use the original key on the hard
drive, not the one on the sticker. I did just that (when prompted for a
key) and all went well, not asking for activation (it is OEM
pre-activated after all).

Then I realized that what I really want to do is use Windows XP for web
access only (using things that require the unsafe ActiveX, Internet
Explorer, Macromedia Flash and other entertainment oriented
technologies) and use Linux for productive work -- using Linux to host
VMWare (because Linux is more robust and runs VMWare faster than
Windows anyway).

I did just that: Wiped out the hard disk (again), then installed Linux,
then installed VMWare and then installed Windows XP (single copy!)
inside a VMWare virtual machine.

All went well - but now Windows XP asks for activation (which is
strange because the same exact OEM CD used for installing it on same
exact hardware first time did not ask for activation).

What is the explanation for this inconsistent behavior of Windows?

Is it possible that the OEM CD is simply tied to the exact original
hardware configuration (un-virtualized) and that by introducing a
slightly different hardware config (256MB RAM instead of 1GB phsically
installed on the laptop), the OEM pre-activation no longer works?

Thanks,
Alex
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

If you indeed modified the original manufacturer's
CD, then yes, you'll have to activate manually.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| I recently purchased a new laptop with Windows XP Professional
| pre-installed (came with nice and shiny COA sticker affixed to the
| bottom). Unfortunately, it came pre-loaded with promotionware and other
| bloatware that I really don't want on my computer, so I used the
| excellent instructions provided on the following web site:
|
| http://www.4saad.com/WhatsNew/Fresh_XP_Install
|
| to create a clean-install CD and use it to perform a clean install.
| According to that web site I should use the original key on the hard
| drive, not the one on the sticker. I did just that (when prompted for a
| key) and all went well, not asking for activation (it is OEM
| pre-activated after all).
|
| Then I realized that what I really want to do is use Windows XP for web
| access only (using things that require the unsafe ActiveX, Internet
| Explorer, Macromedia Flash and other entertainment oriented
| technologies) and use Linux for productive work -- using Linux to host
| VMWare (because Linux is more robust and runs VMWare faster than
| Windows anyway).
|
| I did just that: Wiped out the hard disk (again), then installed Linux,
| then installed VMWare and then installed Windows XP (single copy!)
| inside a VMWare virtual machine.
|
| All went well - but now Windows XP asks for activation (which is
| strange because the same exact OEM CD used for installing it on same
| exact hardware first time did not ask for activation).
|
| What is the explanation for this inconsistent behavior of Windows?
|
| Is it possible that the OEM CD is simply tied to the exact original
| hardware configuration (un-virtualized) and that by introducing a
| slightly different hardware config (256MB RAM instead of 1GB phsically
| installed on the laptop), the OEM pre-activation no longer works?
|
| Thanks,
| Alex
|
 
R

Ron Martell

I recently purchased a new laptop with Windows XP Professional
pre-installed (came with nice and shiny COA sticker affixed to the
bottom). Unfortunately, it came pre-loaded with promotionware and other
bloatware that I really don't want on my computer, so I used the
excellent instructions provided on the following web site:

http://www.4saad.com/WhatsNew/Fresh_XP_Install

to create a clean-install CD and use it to perform a clean install.
According to that web site I should use the original key on the hard
drive, not the one on the sticker. I did just that (when prompted for a
key) and all went well, not asking for activation (it is OEM
pre-activated after all).

Then I realized that what I really want to do is use Windows XP for web
access only (using things that require the unsafe ActiveX, Internet
Explorer, Macromedia Flash and other entertainment oriented
technologies) and use Linux for productive work -- using Linux to host
VMWare (because Linux is more robust and runs VMWare faster than
Windows anyway).

I did just that: Wiped out the hard disk (again), then installed Linux,
then installed VMWare and then installed Windows XP (single copy!)
inside a VMWare virtual machine.

All went well - but now Windows XP asks for activation (which is
strange because the same exact OEM CD used for installing it on same
exact hardware first time did not ask for activation).

What is the explanation for this inconsistent behavior of Windows?

Is it possible that the OEM CD is simply tied to the exact original
hardware configuration (un-virtualized) and that by introducing a
slightly different hardware config (256MB RAM instead of 1GB phsically
installed on the laptop), the OEM pre-activation no longer works?

Thanks,
Alex

Because VMWare isolates your virtual machine from the actual physical
hardware in your computer. Look at the hardware components listed in
Device Manager for your virtual install and compare these to the ones
actually installed in the machine.

The critical component in your instance is probably the motherboard
BIOS. If the VM install is not getting the proper motherboard BIOS
signature (the one from the actual laptop manufacturer) then you will
have the type of problems you are encountering.

Your OEM version is BIOS locked to the motherboard BIOS used by the
laptop manufacturer.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
X

xp_newbie

Ron, I think that you are right: The "system" seen by Windows XP Pro
running in my VMWare session is significantly different from the one
seen by Windows XP Pro when it was installed standalone.

I already said that at least the size of memory seen by the two
different XPs is different (256MB vs. 1GB) but actually there are many
more differences, the most noticeable one is the BIOS manufacturer and
version.

Since you said that my "OEM version is BIOS locked to the motherboard
BIOS used by the laptop manufacturer", this means that I have to use
the product key on the bottom of my laptop in order to activate WXP -
right?

Thanks,
Alex
 
X

xp_newbie

Carey said:
If you indeed modified the original manufacturer's
CD, then yes, you'll have to activate manually.

I didn't really modify anything. I just slipstreamed SP2 and added the
current hotfixes to make it easy for me to re-install XP should I need
it (all versions of Windows, including XP, are known to require fresh
re-install every now and then. Uninstalls are almost never full
uninstalls and they leave a not-so-well-behaving registry and system).

Is adding hotfixes to the \i386\svcpack subdirectory considered
modification?

Thanks,
Alex
 

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