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wojo
Yes you can do a Repair you just can't do an upgrade install.
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Ron Martell
Balderdash. Hogwash. Malarkey.
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"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
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Ron Martell
Balderdash. Hogwash. Malarkey.
The net is full of cracks for $10 shareware programs.
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"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
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kurttrail
Ron said:
As far as I'm concerned, I think anyone that would do an OS upgrade on their
own computer has an effin' screw loose. Too many people have too many
problems with upgrades, if not immediately, some time down the road.
Are you admitting to doing upgrades with your own personal computer?
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wojo
Now there's some words you don't see too often in conversation anymore. 
Not often enough in THIS thread.
Not often enough in THIS thread.
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Alias
Ron Martell said:
How would you know?
Copying cassette tapes didn't stop the music industry, nor did VHS cripple
the movie industry. Copying Windows 98 isn't going to stop Microsoft. *If*
they want to stop piracy, just lower the price. If they want to have high
prices and thereby make piracy profitable, piracy won't be stopped. Simple
economics.
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Alias;
Possibly "Simple economics", however it is up to the owner to decide
how and at what cost to distribute the product.
People that think just because the price is to high and pirate
something are nothing more than thieves.
It has been said many times.
Cost does nothing to justify theft.
People choose to be thieves or not.
Microsoft or any other business for that matter is in no way the
cause.
People make and are responsible for their own choices.
Possibly "Simple economics", however it is up to the owner to decide
how and at what cost to distribute the product.
People that think just because the price is to high and pirate
something are nothing more than thieves.
It has been said many times.
Cost does nothing to justify theft.
People choose to be thieves or not.
Microsoft or any other business for that matter is in no way the
cause.
People make and are responsible for their own choices.
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Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
It means that an OEM WinXP CD cannot be used to upgrade from an
earlier OS, such as Win98. A generic OEM CD can be used to perform
repairs, to include a repair installation over itself.
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It means that an OEM WinXP CD cannot be used to upgrade from an
earlier OS, such as Win98. A generic OEM CD can be used to perform
repairs, to include a repair installation over itself.
Bruce Chambers
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kurttrail
Jupiter said:
In monopolistic markets. In competitive markets, it's price that is usually
somewhat a matter of what the market will bear.
When the market will no longer bear the price, piracy happens. Piracy will
always happen. Just like their will always be theives. But what MS & the
BSA trust are trying to FUD everyone into believing is that "fair use" is
piracy too, by means of an anonymous post-purchase "shrink-wrap license"
that they have no intention of ever enforcing on private individual by legal
means.
"Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted work for a 'fair use'; the
copyright owner does not possess the exclusive right to such a use." - US
Supreme Court
But corporations aren't responsible for their's? LOL! MS, and the rest of
the BSA Junta, with their EULAs, are trying to create a whole new class of
"pirates" where none existed before, those that "fairly use" their copies of
legally purchased software.
MS, & the BSA KKK, should prove that they have the right to limit an
individual's legal right to "fair use" first, before any person believes it.
I didn't know we ammended the constitution to let copyright owners rewrite
the laws of Congress, and the rulings of the judicial branch, by
"shrink-wrap license?"
When ya'll can prove that a copyright owners rights hold more legal weight
in my home than my rights, give me a call, because until then MS could claim
anything that it wants, but that doesn't change what I have every right to
do under the law with my copies of copyrighted material for my private
non-commercial use in my home.
If MS wants to start kicking in towards the mortgage, that would be another
story, but MS has no right to tell me what I can and can not do with my
copies of copyright software in my home, until they can prove it through the
due process of law, by the preponderance of the evidence. Until they got
the balls to put their money where their EULA is, MS is just a boy crying
"Wolf" over and over again. Why should any rational human being believe
them anymore?
Better watch out for that wolf, Juppy Mouse! ROFL!
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
SNIPPED the garbage...oh well nothing to comment on!
Good bye kurttrail
Good bye kurttrail
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kurttrail
Jupiter said:
Translated out of the MicroMoron into reality:
"SNIPPED the stuff I'm incapable of comprehending, let alone, rationally
discussing...oh well I don't have much of a brain to begin with!"
If it were only true! Guten Nacht, Juppy Maus!
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DILIP
Thanks guys.
Bruce Chambers said:
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Ron Martell
The doctrine of FAIR USE is described at 17 U.S.C. Section 107.
"Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106 and 106A, the fair use
of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or
phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for
purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching
(including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or
research, is not an infringement of copyright.
In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case
is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use
is of a commercial nature or is for or nonprofit educational purposes,
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work,
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to
the copyrighted work as a whole, and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of
the copyrighted work."
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"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
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Ron Martell
kurttrail said:
My own computer was upgraded from Windows 3.x to Windows 95 original
to Windows 95B to Windows 98 Gold to Windows 98 SE to Windows Me to
Windows XP Home to Windows XP Pro. It is also configured to
multi-boot and I also have Windows 98SE and Windows Me installed on it
but I use Windows XP at least 99 and 44/100% of the time.
In the same time period (approx 10 years) it went through at least 5
motherboard & CPU changes plus numerous hard drive changes and
uncounted other peripherals (modems, CDROMs, CDRWs, DVDs, Printers,
Network cards, Video cards, etc.)
Windows XP Pro boots up in less than 60 seconds (currently running a
1.7 ghz Celeron with 512 mb of RAM on an AOpen motherboard with SiS
chipset). My list of installed programs almost fills the entire
screen (4 columns at 1024 x 768) and they all work.
It does help to have at least some knowledge about what you are doing.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
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kurttrail
Ron said:
Totally non-commercial.
And for private non-commercial use by an indivdual, the courts have allowed
the copying & use of the entire copyrighted work as a "fair use."
None, Zip, Zilch. WinXP's retail sales are so piss poor, that MS hasn't
released retail sales figures since January 2002, just 4 months after XP's
release, so by giving up the fight against its software being "fairly used"
for private non-commercial use, MS would probably increase retail sales of
WinXP.
Thanks for playing Ron.
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kurttrail
Ron said:
Well then you should organize that Start Menu of yours so that it doesn't
fill up the whole screen.
You're insane, Ron. The XP you're running has been upgraded since 3.x, no
clean installs? Don't you know how to transfer your settings to a clean
installation or something? Have you tried a clean install of XP to compare
it to?
Something smells very fishy in B.C.
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Bruce Chambers
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You're welcome.
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You're welcome.
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DILIP
Well then you should organize that Start Menu of yours so that it doesn't
Hi.
Actually, even a clean install gets slow once programs and applications
start up in the background. The registry gets full and so do the start up
lists, with things like firewalls and AVs which most people use. It's a
good idea to *try* a clean install if things don't work with the upgrade too
well. However there's little evidence of the fact that stability or serious
performance gains can be obtained from the same. Also, you can transfer
some settings only - Not all. It's a pain configuring all applications
again to work exactly the way you like them.
Hi.
Actually, even a clean install gets slow once programs and applications
start up in the background. The registry gets full and so do the start up
lists, with things like firewalls and AVs which most people use. It's a
good idea to *try* a clean install if things don't work with the upgrade too
well. However there's little evidence of the fact that stability or serious
performance gains can be obtained from the same. Also, you can transfer
some settings only - Not all. It's a pain configuring all applications
again to work exactly the way you like them.
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Ron Martell
I know how to transfer files and settings all right. I do it
regularly for various clients. But in my own case there is a slight
matter of 100 or so applications that would need to be reinstalled.
Yup. Several times during the beta testing of XP. Each new beta
release was installed as an upgrade, using a copy of my Windows Me
partition. And on several occasions I also installed that same beta
version as a clean install. The only substantive difference that I
ever noticed was that a clean install was an absolute p.i.t.a. due to
the massive amount of time it took to install all of the various
applications that I wanted to test against that beta.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."