Nvu HTML Editor

[Ned Goudy]

I use Macromedia Dreamweaver
BUT I have downloaded Nvu and
played around with it and find it
to be an EXCEPTIONAL program.

It really is amazing what you get for
free in that program.

I am recommending it to people
who have to MAINTAIN websites
that I make for them. And when
I open the pages I make in DW
they are clearly and easily editable
with the Nvu software. And the CSS
elements, don't get me started.

It really is a sharp program. I just
thought I'd share my two cents.

Download the latest copy here:
http://www.nvu.com

Ned

 

[Buzzy]

I use Macromedia Dreamweaver
BUT I have downloaded Nvu and
played around with it and find it
to be an EXCEPTIONAL program.

It really is amazing what you get for
free in that program.

I am recommending it to people
who have to MAINTAIN websites
that I make for them. And when
I open the pages I make in DW
they are clearly and easily editable
with the Nvu software. And the CSS
elements, don't get me started.

It really is a sharp program. I just
thought I'd share my two cents.

Download the latest copy here:
http://www.nvu.com

Ned

........ more info here:

http://www.buzzys.net/nvu.html

HTH
Cheers,
Buzzy

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version of freeware! All are welcome!

 

[Ned Goudy]

....... more info here:
http://www.buzzys.net/nvu.html
Cheers,
Buzzy

Great review befitting a great program.

Ned

 

[Craig]

Great review befitting a great program.

Ned

Look;

I'm all for open source proggies and Nvu is a find wysiwyg editor but it
has some flaws, some serious.
- crippled ftp client
- insertion of random tag elements
- deletion of random elements
- wholesale reformating of code
- inability to handle php

That covers Nvu, the wysiwyg app. There are also problems with Nvu the
open-source project. The development team is way understaffed and
only irregularly communicates with either users or those interested in
becoming involved.

Not to rain on your collective parade Ned & Buzzy but Nvu is not prime
time and, w/o cleaning up with an outside editor and add-on like tidy,
you're just inviting trouble. It is a great wysiwyg for beginners
making simple pages who don't want to see the code. It's even a very
good bridge for those who are learning css but for maintenance...no.

fwiw,
-Craig

 

[witszeroin]

I agree that NVU is agreat program. Macromedia products seem to have
clunky interfaces. Besides NVU I find that DHE is also very nice.

 

[Vic Dura]

It really is a sharp program. I just
thought I'd share my two cents.

Ditto. It is indeed very good. It has some flaws, but very good for
simple stuff.

 

[Franklin]

I'm all for open source proggies and Nvu is a find wysiwyg
editor but it has some flaws, some serious.
- crippled ftp client
- insertion of random tag elements
- deletion of random elements
- wholesale reformating of code
- inability to handle php

That covers Nvu, the wysiwyg app. There are also problems with
Nvu the open-source project. The development team is way
understaffed and only irregularly communicates with either users
or those interested in becoming involved.

Not to rain on your collective parade Ned & Buzzy but Nvu is not
prime time and, w/o cleaning up with an outside editor and
add-on like tidy, you're just inviting trouble. It is a great
wysiwyg for beginners making simple pages who don't want to see
the code. It's even a very good bridge for those who are
learning css but for maintenance...no.

fwiw,
-Craig

Craig, which freeware programs do you prefer to Nvu?

 

[john]

It was produced by the Linspire team along with gizmo (a skype like
program).
They do good work...

 

[Qwerty]

BUT I have downloaded Nvu and
played around with it and find it
to be an EXCEPTIONAL program.

Maybe, but it's not really an html editor is it?

Qwerty

 

[Virginner]

| I use Macromedia Dreamweaver
| BUT I have downloaded Nvu and
| played around with it and find it
| to be an EXCEPTIONAL program.
|

Shame it screws PHP....

D.

 

[Vegard Krog Petersen]

I'm all for open source proggies and Nvu is a find wysiwyg editor but it
has some flaws, some serious.
- wholesale reformating of code

The author is working on it:

http://glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?Nvu
Monday 6 March 2006 Nvu + Tidy
After a discussing with W3C staff (including Tim Berners-Lee), I'll try integrating Tidy into Nvu 1.0. That's easily feasible when you save a document, it's much harder when you publish a document. Stay tuned.

In the mean time:
HandCoder
http://fabiwan.kenobi.free.fr/HandCoder/


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[Craig]

Craig, which freeware programs do you prefer to Nvu?

Franklin;

Short answer is I use NvuPLUS. <grin> That is,
Nvu /and/:
- PSPad
- Tidy
- Filezilla

Nvu is the *best* for initially tossing stuff up. PSPad is needed for
the heavy lifting and Tidy for dotting my i's and crossing my t's.
Filezilla makes sure everything gets there w/o a hitch. But I don't
want to give the wrong impression here. Nvu is at v1.0. and it is a very
polished 1.0.

Another strong point in Nvu's favor is the community of users.

They are very helpful. They are generally responsive. And, in the end,
they are hopeful that things sort themselves out in the "product
management" side of things. They provide great support. Make sure to
sign up for the mailing list here: http://nvu.com/mailinglist.html and
the forums here: http://forum.nvudev.org/. Finally, they are all
acutely aware of the shortcomings I've listed.

As a 1.0, Nvu is a wonderful application within a certain context.
Given the shortcomings I'd listed before, "maintenance" is outside that
context. Also, unless the "product management" improves, the Nvu
project risks losing its users/contributors.

fwiw,
-Craig

 

[Michael Laplante]

I'm all for open source proggies and Nvu is a find wysiwyg editor but it
has some flaws, some serious.
- crippled ftp client
- insertion of random tag elements
- deletion of random elements
- wholesale reformating of code
- inability to handle php

To that I would add:
- It also tends to crap out when dealing with layers.
- Frequently, changes don't update between wywiwyg and the text editor.
- Sometimes highlighting an element will highlight the corresponding code
when switching to text edit mode -- and sometimes it doesn't. I've never
been able to get a consistent behaviour in this regard.

After exhaustive research into this issue, I've concluded that a good
freeware wysiwyg editor doesn't exist. The HTML "generator" programs such as
Web Builder, DHE Editor and Web Dwarf come pretty close but none of them can
handle in-line images and their text formatting is code inefficient.
Mozilla's composer that comes as part of its suite (NVu's cousin) works
pretty good too, but last I checked it wasn't up to date wrt CSS. And, of
course, you had to download the whole suite just for the editor.

M

 

[Ned Goudy]

Look;

I'm all for open source proggies and Nvu is a find wysiwyg editor but it
has some flaws, some serious.
- crippled ftp client
- insertion of random tag elements
- deletion of random elements
- wholesale reformating of code
- inability to handle php

I agree that Nvu isn't as good as Dreamweaver
but for my purposes, (I design what I feel are
NICE professional looking websites that are
USER FRIENDLY for other people to Maintain.)
I find it to be suitable.

I use WSFTP to do all my uploads, so FTP isn't an issue.

I do find that Nvu isn't as WSYWIG friendly when it comes
to editing text or changing a link from one document to
another for example, and unfortunately the user will still
have to learn about HTML code concerning Links and
<p></p> type spacing, etc.

But as for making a nice looking and even a professional
webpage, it can be done.

Since I have DW and Adobe Photoshop, I don't worry
about those other programs you mentioned, and I don't
do PHP so for my needs Nvu works well.

It could be better. There COULD perhaps be a just God
in heaven, but that is a THREAD for another group. :O)

Ned

 

[Craig]

I agree that Nvu isn't as good as Dreamweaver...
I use WSFTP to do all my uploads...
Since I have DW and Adobe Photoshop, I don't worry...
I don't do PHP...

It could be better. There COULD perhaps be a just God
in heaven, but that is a THREAD for another group. :O)

Ned

Ned;

It's good that you have payware workarounds for the issues I raised in
response to your original post. And your theological metaphor regarding
quixotic quests for perfection was fun.

But the reason I responded in the first place is that your paean to Nvu
overlooked some significant issues. I'm a fan of Nvu's. I've been
using Nvu and been involved with the project since v0.6. For just as
long, we have needed to constantly fight against Nvu "being oversold."

Your post is not alone in doing that either. Linspire (the company
underwriting Nvu's development) has pushed marketing collateral that
practically swoons!

I want Nvu to succeed. To do that, especially in a community like
a.c.f, expectations need to be set. That's because a lot of us here are
/not/ freeware hobbbyists. We rely on freeware to get our business
done. My follow up to your post was made in that spirit.

regards,
-Craig

 

[Hepe]

Hallo NVU Cracks ,

I am a newbie in NVU. I used Phase 5 earlier.

Is it rigth, that I cannot dispaly my project on my hard disk?
i can only see my ftp-page online all the time.

this sucks very much, as i dont want to update all the time...

long speech short:
is there a posibility to dispaly the hard disk with the
project folders instead of the "$)&("-ftp-uploader?

blessings
hepe


_____

 

[Craig]

Hallo NVU Cracks ,

I am a newbie in NVU. I used Phase 5 earlier.

Is it rigth, that I cannot dispaly my project on my hard disk?
i can only see my ftp-page online all the time.

this sucks very much, as i dont want to update all the time...

long speech short:
is there a posibility to dispaly the hard disk with the
project folders instead of the "$)&("-ftp-uploader?

blessings
hepe

Hello Hepe;

I can view my projects from my hard disk using my browser. I can do
this because I used Nvu to make the hyperlinks in my project relative
and not absolute.

Does this help?

-Craig

 

[Al Klein]

Is it rigth, that I cannot dispaly my project on my hard disk?
i can only see my ftp-page online all the time.

this sucks very much, as i dont want to update all the time...

long speech short:
is there a posibility to dispaly the hard disk with the
project folders instead of the "$)&("-ftp-uploader?

I don't use NVU (I need much more than that) but if you're asking
whether you can see your web site the way others will see it without
putting it on a computer with a web server, the answer with most web
pages (it depends on what you wrote) is "no". If you have any
server-side code (code generated by the server) you won't see it by
looking at the code you wrote.

That said, there's no reason you can't run IIS (the web server that
comes with Windows) or Apache on your local computer and use that (the
internet address will be http://127.0.0.1) as your test server to see
the complete site. Depending on your code, you may have to install
Perl, PHP, MySql, etc., etc., but all that stuff is free for the
download.