WYSIWYG Category (pre-vote stuff)

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REM

For those interested in wysiwyg Garrett recommended a really nice open source
html editor:

"Nvu (pronounced N-view, for a "new view") makes managing a web site a snap.
Now anyone can create web pages and manage a website with no technical expertise
or knowledge of HTML."

http://www.nvu.com/

"Is Nvu a clone of Microsoft's FrontPage and/or Macromedia's Dreamweaver?
FrontPage and Dreamweaver are popular HTML editors for MS Windows. These
programs have become popular because they make web design extremely easy, even
for non-technical people. Nvu is not an exact clone of either of these
products, but it does contain many of the same easy-to-use features which makes
these programs so popular. Users familiar with either of these two products
will feel right at home using Nvu."

I've played around with it for several days and:
1) It is intutive.
2) It doesn't crash!
3) Nice clean interface.
4) No real help files, but it doesn't really need help files.
5) It beats the socks off Amaya.


I'm working on trying out Blink now.

It will be several days before I get time to really play with it.

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The vote really needs the comments and viewpoints of people who use wysiwyg
editors. I wouldn't call what I've done much more than taking a good look and
playing around with it some. Being open source, it might change over time for
the worse, unless a copy of the current version is kept. I really like it from
what I have seen though.

If there is no real interest in wysiwyg it might be best to drop the category? I
feel Nvu rocks, but someone else thought the same about Amaya last year.

This might be true for other categories as well? If there is a lack of interest
and informed input in a certain category might it be best that the category is
left out for 2005, rather than offering up something that might not really be
priceless?

The entire list is dependant on the input of the readers, so now is a great time
to start playing around with different apps in whatever category is of interest.

If wysiwyg is of personal interest Nvu is a great app to start playing with and
Blink also. If there are other wysiwyg suggestions list them out and we'll give
them a spin.
 
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Roger Johansson

REM said:
Nvu.
I've played around with it for several days and:
1) It is intutive.
2) It doesn't crash!
3) Nice clean interface.
4) No real help files, but it doesn't really need help files.
5) It beats the socks off Amaya.
I'm working on trying out Blink now.

Can these programs open an already existing html file/site?

Several such programs can only be used to create new sites, that is why
that is an important issue when choosing between wysiwyg html editors.
 
W

wald

Roger Johansson said:
Can these programs open an already existing html file/site?

I can only speak for NVU, but yes, it can work with existing
files/sites.

As a matter of fact, NVU is one of the more promising open source
projects these days. It's only at version 0.30, but already very
usable. It's actually very heavily based on Mozilla Composer (shares
a lot of code with it), and interesting to know, the developer
behind it is payed by the Lindows/Lindash/Linspire people.

Regards,
Wald
 
R

Rod

wald said:
I can only speak for NVU, but yes, it can work with existing
files/sites.

As a matter of fact, NVU is one of the more promising open source
projects these days. It's only at version 0.30, but already very
usable. It's actually very heavily based on Mozilla Composer (shares
a lot of code with it), and interesting to know, the developer
behind it is payed by the Lindows/Lindash/Linspire people.

NVU, Blink and Selina can all open existing html pages
BTW, space their folders take on my HD:

Selida 2: 5.84 Mb
NVU: 18.6 Mb
Blink: 21.9 Mb

Blink has to be registered through email and crashed big time the first time
I used it (win98SE).
NVU has served me well, but that small Selina 2 is realy nice, great
templates, fast on my (old) sytem, thinking of switching to it permanently.

HTH Rod
 
R

REM

Can these programs open an already existing html file/site?
Several such programs can only be used to create new sites, that is why
that is an important issue when choosing between wysiwyg html editors.

True. Nvu does open and edit existing pages. Very nice.

My Blink download stalled out. It might be tomorrow or so before I can see.
 
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Rod

Larry said:
[snip]
Someone posted Selina 2 a few days ago: http://selida.camelon.nl/
Features are here: http://selida.camelon.nl/features.html

Rod

I tried Selina 2 and it wanted to bring up Front Page 2000 (which I
have installed on my system). IIRC, it wanted me to re-install
FrontPage! Needles to say, I deleted it from my system without trying
it. It may have been a quirk of my system, as I haven't seen any
critical comments about it.

I saw this in the forum, same problem, no answer:
http://forum.camelon.nl/viewtopic.php?t=169
So I guess it's not your system, but the program that's screwing up.
I don't have Frontpage, and I have yet to encounter a problem with Selida.
Mail has been send to the athor about the Frontpage problem.

Rod
 
G

Garrett

Larry said:
[snip]
Someone posted Selina 2 a few days ago: http://selida.camelon.nl/
Features are here: http://selida.camelon.nl/features.html

Rod

I tried Selina 2 and it wanted to bring up Front Page 2000 (which I
have installed on my system). IIRC, it wanted me to re-install
FrontPage! Needles to say, I deleted it from my system without trying
it. It may have been a quirk of my system, as I haven't seen any
critical comments about it.

I've recommended Selina to a few people before, and none of them,
including myself have encountered this problem. I'm sure it's due to
the program's relationship to MSIE. It requires MSIE in order to work.

I tend to frown upon anything that requires MSIE to operate, but in
this case, I was very happy with Selida use of MSIE.

I do hope the author finds the problem for those who've run into the FP
problem.

-Garrett
 
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jason

REM said:
For those interested in wysiwyg Garrett recommended a really nice open
source html editor:

"Nvu (pronounced N-view, for a "new view") makes managing a web site a
snap. Now anyone can create web pages and manage a website with no
technical expertise or knowledge of HTML."

http://www.nvu.com/

I usually just use Composer, but one thing Composer won't let me do is
this. If I highlight a section of the doc -- let's say a selection of text
-- in WYSIWYG mode, I'd like to see that same selection in Source mode.
But in Composer, when you switch modes, it takes you to the top of the
page. Can N-view take you to the selected text?
 
D

Dennis Roark

I usually just use Composer, but one thing Composer won't let me do is
this. If I highlight a section of the doc -- let's say a selection of
text -- in WYSIWYG mode, I'd like to see that same selection in Source
mode. But in Composer, when you switch modes, it takes you to the top
of the page. Can N-view take you to the selected text?

Last I looked at NVu, it won't synchronize between viewing modes either.
It is bascially still Composer. The only program that I know of that
stays synchronized is FrontPage, which is not Freeware. The newest
version of FP has a new split view where half the screen is the code
view and the bottom half is the WYSIWG. Quite nice, wish someone would
do a freeware program with the same feature. Also, FP 2003 appears to
finally be writing compliant HTML unlike the mess it used to create.

--
Dennis Roark

(e-mail address removed)
Starting Points:
http://sio.midco.net/denro/www
 
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REM

I usually just use Composer, but one thing Composer won't let me do is
this. If I highlight a section of the doc -- let's say a selection of text
-- in WYSIWYG mode, I'd like to see that same selection in Source mode.
But in Composer, when you switch modes, it takes you to the top of the
page. Can N-view take you to the selected text?

No, it seems to do the same as composer. It starts the source view at the top.

It can display the tags when viewing the page if this is of any help.
 

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