Now that Visual Studio .NET 2005 is released...

[Zeke]

Anyone,

Now that Visual Studio .NET 2005 is released, when will ActiveSync 4.x,
Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC SDK and Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone SDK will
be released? I'm an MSDN Universal subscriber and can only find the betas,
not the release bits.

 

[Chris Tacke, eMVP]

ActiveSync 4.0 was installed when Studio 05 was installed on my machine.

The Windows Mobile SDK has been out for some time:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en

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[Zeke]

A Windows Mobile toolkit but it appears that there will be newer toolkits
for Pocket PC and SmartPhone. They were available for the VS2005 Beta 2 and
I haven't seen the updates yet.

I have the release bits for VS2005 Professional and ActiveSync 4.0 wasn't
included. Which version did you load?

 

[Peter Foot [MVP]]

The existing WM5.0 SDKs will work with VS RTM. So will the version of AS4.0
on the MSDN website

Peter

 

[Zeke]

My question was: "When will Microsoft officially release the Windows Mobile
5.0 Pocket PC SDK, Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone SDK and ActiveSync 4.0?"
That has still to be answered. Visual Studio .NET 2005 requires ActiveSync
4.0 to download and debug on smart devices. Why wasn't ActiveSync 4.0, and
the corresponding SDKs, released at the same time? I'd like to use released,
and supported, products; not unsupported beta revisions. Does anyone know
when these products are planned to be released?

 

[Steve Maillet \(eMVP\)]

"My question was: "When will Microsoft officially release the Windows Mobile
5.0 Pocket PC SDK, Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone SDK and ActiveSync 4.0?"
That WAS answered. They already have. They have been available for quite
some time now.

 

[Chris Tacke, eMVP]

I sent you a link to the Released WM 5.0 SDK. At the bottom of that page is
a link to the released Smartphone 5.0 SDK. Not sure what more you want.
Just becasue it came out before Studio doesn't mean it's not "released."
The CF was done some time before Studio shipped.

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[Zeke]

I did go to your link and it specifically says for VS2005 Beta 2. Nothing
has been released by Microsoft that indicates it has been updated for the
release of VS2005.

Will you guarantee a May release of an SDK for VS2005 Beta 2 is 100% for RTM
VS2005?

Will Microsoft just change the verbage on their web page to make it
official?

 

[Chris Tacke, eMVP]

Right, when it was released, only Beta2 was out for Studio so that's the
verbiage. That doesn't mean the SDK is a Beta. And sure I'll guarantee it,
for whatever that's worth to you. I don't work for Microsoft, I don't
generate their SDKs and I don't maintain their web page. I do know,
however, that many people are using that SDK to build ans ship product, the
SDK says nothing about being a beta, and I've not heard any plans for an
updated release.

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[Zeke]

I guess that it's all in how you read it. You assume it was released and I
assume it's still a beta. If it's released then why weren't they included
with the release of VS2005? VS2005 ships ready to build Smartphone CF 1.0,
Pocket PC 2003 CF 1.0 & CF 2.0 and Windows CE CF 2.0. Why be suspiciously
absent on Windows Mobile 5.0 and Smartphone CF 2.0? It would be easier to
accept if the SDKs were released after the IDE but not before.

 

[Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]]

That has to do with the amount of space consumed on disk by the distribution
set. The VS.NET guys had a size beyond which the package could not go and
including those SDKs would have put them over. Result: the SDKs are on the
distribution media.

Paul T.

 

[Chris Tacke, eMVP]

Yep. Adding the SDKs (which includes emulators) pushed the package beyond 1
DVD in size. Cost became an issue, and so they were omitted.

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[Zeke]

Guess what, Microsoft just removed the 'Beta 2' from the SDK web pages for
Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC/Smartphone.

It may have been a small, or insignificant, detail to all of you who replied
to these messages but it was huge to me. Why? Besides myself, I have been
working with several other developers who have been evaluating the VS2005
Beta 2, VS2005 Release Candidate 1, and finally the VS2005 RTM. Microsoft,
correctly in my opinion, warns against the dangers of using 'Beta' software
on a production machine. Several developers didn't follow the step-by-step
removal procedures of the VS2005 Beta 2 and were forced to reimage their
machines. Too bad for them, right? Well, that leaves a very bad taste in
their mouth and unless an SDK is marked specifically release, they now
refuse to use it except for evaluation purposes.

Now that the SDK issue is fixed, what about ActiveSync 4.0?

 

[Guest]

Dude, if you want something you need to ask in a polite and friendly manner.