Norton Systemworks 2005

[patti]

The new version of systemworks has it's own "threat
detector" and doesn't seem to "play nice" with the MS
Antispyware. If I run a complete MS spyware scan and
clean up infections then my Systemworks email scan can't
work. In reverse if I run the threst detector then it
finds but can't delete spyware found by the MS scan. Is
there a way to get these two to get along together? Do I
really need both products?

 

[Bill Sanderson]

I don't know the answer in terms of coverage. From posts here, it seems
they are not, in this beta version, compatible. Is it possible to turn off
the portion of Systemworks that seems to conflict? I would expect Microsoft
Antispyware to be more comprehensive in coverage, but perhaps I am
chauvinist.

 

[Steve Wechsler [MVP]]

I don't know the answer in terms of coverage. From posts here, it seems
they are not, in this beta version, compatible. Is it possible to turn off
the portion of Systemworks that seems to conflict? I would expect Microsoft
Antispyware to be more comprehensive in coverage, but perhaps I am
chauvinist.

From what I've seen in spyware forums concerning NSW's ability to
protect systems, no, you're not being chauvinist, you're being
realist

Steve Wechsler (akaMowGreen)
MVP Windows Server

 

[AMDGUY [MCP]]

From what I've seen in spyware forums concerning NSW's ability to
protect systems, no, you're not being chauvinist, you're being
realist

Steve Wechsler (akaMowGreen)
MVP Windows Server

What corporate anti-virus do you recomend then

 

[Bill Sanderson]

What corporate anti-virus do you recomend then

I actually DO recommend Symantec's corporate antivirus line--I like it
better than the versions sold at retail to consumers. I would not expect it
to provide better protection against the items that Microsoft Antispyware
targets than Microsoft Antispyware, though.

(Not Steve!--who may well have a different opinion)

 

[AMDGUY [MCP]]

Right now running norton corp server w/ 2003 server and Xp stations.
Trying ms antispyware on 3 of them. in addition to the anti-virus.

some people dont realize that the 2 are totaly differnt programs.

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Yep--I worked with the (Intel?) predecessor of Symantec corporate a good
long time ago. I should say that I don't have experience with the corporate
offerings of, say, McAfee, Trend Micro, Panda, and others. I've heard good
things about Trend Micro's offerings, in particular. I haven't heard
anybody say much good about McAfee.

 

[AMDGUY [MCP]]

E-Trust Isnt very good. Completely slowed down the network. Not good at
all. So took it off and put norton(or symantec) corp on. works great.
(btw not related to naything here can you get XP pro to the open license
agrement with software asurance....) Dell told me no but I was perty
sure you could.

 

[Bill Sanderson]

E-Trust Isnt very good. Completely slowed down the network. Not good at
all. So took it off and put norton(or symantec) corp on. works great.
(btw not related to naything here can you get XP pro to the open license
agrement with software asurance....) Dell told me no but I was perty sure
you could.

I don't know the answer about the licensing thing. My clients are just
small enough that I haven't managed to get any of them into open license
agreements, so I don't know the ropes.

 

[AMDGUY [MCP]]

I don't know the answer about the licensing thing. My clients are just
small enough that I haven't managed to get any of them into open license
agreements, so I don't know the ropes.

To get an open licencens agrement you only need 5 clients i belive.

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Yeah I know, and I got to looking at this, but concluded that buying new
systems from Dell with OEM's OS and Office included worked better for the
one client I have which is large enough for this to make sense. I haven't
forgotten about it, but they've moved from Office97 to Office2003 without
particularly noticing the change in either negative or postive ways that
I've heard, so they aren't really sensitive to being on the cutting edge.
And on the OS front, I've brought them up to all XP by donating copies
bought at Microsoft staff prices (a benefit of my MVP status)--so they are
in good shape there.

Its one of those things I know I need to know more about and get across to
folks, but so far it hasn't clicked for me.

 

[AMDGUY [MCP]]

Yeah I know, and I got to looking at this, but concluded that buying new
systems from Dell with OEM's OS and Office included worked better for the
one client I have which is large enough for this to make sense. I haven't
forgotten about it, but they've moved from Office97 to Office2003 without
particularly noticing the change in either negative or postive ways that
I've heard, so they aren't really sensitive to being on the cutting edge.
And on the OS front, I've brought them up to all XP by donating copies
bought at Microsoft staff prices (a benefit of my MVP status)--so they are
in good shape there.

Its one of those things I know I need to know more about and get across to
folks, but so far it hasn't clicked for me.

How do you become an mvp

 

[Bill Sanderson]

One way is to give good, consistent, and accurate advice in newsgroups.
Increasingly, they are looking for folks whose outreach around Microsoft
products is via other modes--web forums, user groups, book and magazine
authors, etc. I started speaking up in Compuserv forums about Microsoft
Mail a good many years ago, and have continued on and off since then. I'm
certainly not terribly knowledgable on lots of areas of Microsoft
technologies--but I try to stick with the stuff that I know enough about to
give accurate useful advice on.

 

[AMDGUY [MCP]]

So eventualy will get noticed?

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Take a look at the information available here:

 

[patti]

The Microsoft product does find alot more incidences than
the NSW. I have been told though that the NSW acts like
spyware to work effectively. If this is true what parts
can I actually turn off without compromising my virus
security?

 

[Bill Sanderson]

I don't know anything about Norton Systemworks 2005, I'm afraid, so I am
unable to make recommendations. In Microsoft Antispyware, it is possible to
turn off the active agents which monitor Internet, Operating system, and
Application checkpoints.

If you find that some of these agents don't function while running Norton
Systemworks 2005, I would recommend disabling those agents.