Norton Speed Disk Hang !

[penang]

Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my
XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton
Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need,
and launch the thing.

I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and
have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed
Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang !

Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing.

I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was
told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and
boy did it "run"

From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran

throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed
Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !!

Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again,
no, it's still "running".

Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad
tho.

 

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[VanguardLH]

Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed
my
XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the
Norton
Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I
need,
and launch the thing.

I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and
have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed
Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang !

Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing.

I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I
was
told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and
boy did it "run"

throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007
Speed
Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !!

Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again,
no, it's still "running".

Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad
tho.

http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/support/productdetail/contact_ts.jsp?pvid=nsw_2007_prem

They might be able to help.

 

[Trinny]

Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my
XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton
Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need,
and launch the thing.

I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and
have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed
Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang !

Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing.

I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was
told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and
boy did it "run"

throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed
Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !!

Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again,
no, it's still "running".

Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad
tho.

Two lessons:
Microsoft sucks.
Norton sucks bigger.

Nem

 

[Dave]

Have you run disk doctor to make sure there aren't any problems with the
disk?

 

[Kayman]

A number of experts agree that the retail AV version of McAfee, Norton and
Trend Micro has become cumbersome and bloated for the average user.

The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it
using Norton's own uninstall tool
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039
and get a refund
As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before
proceeding.

If this doesn't work use this:
Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily
http://www.revouninstaller.com/
and/or
RegSeeker
http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm
Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions.
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt

While Norton's removal tool usually gets the job done, you may also want to
go to:
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/winsockxpfix.html
and download a copy of winsockxpfix just in case. Rarely, the removal of
NIS breakes the networking components in XP to the point where internet
access is impossible. This little utility will fix it back up.

Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine!
Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom
Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. In
fact, most of experts (incl. Norton) believe that scanning incoming and
outgoing mail causes e-mail file corruption.

Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Free
http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html

Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
(Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)

AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
http://free.grisoft.com/

Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free
http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser

ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free
http://www.eset.com/
Have you seen these "extra settings for NOD32"?
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509

On-demand AV application (add it to your arsenal and use it as a "second
opinion" av scanner).
BitDefender10 Free Edition
http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-14-en--BitDefender-8-Free-Edition.html

A-S applications (grab'em all).

The effectiveness of an individual AV A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and
oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that
cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple
products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what
another may miss.

SuperAntispyware - Free
http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html

Ad-Aware - Free
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html

Spybot Search & Destroy - Free
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
(I don't use the Immunisation function and TeaTimer application)

Windows Defender _ Free
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
Interesting reading:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html
"...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects
changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about
the actual threat."

Some more useful applications:
Spyware Blaster - Free
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

Rootkit Revealer - Free
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/RootkitRevealer.mspx

Crap Cleaner _ Free
http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/
If Windows Defender is utilized go to Applications, under Utilities
uncheck "Windows Defender"

CW Shredder - Free
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Popup-Ad-Spyware-Blockers/CWShredder.shtml

Good luck

 

[Larry Vagina]

Try jkdefrag, it uses the safe windows defrag api. It can also be run
as a screensaver. Plus it's fast.

 

[R T]

There's a Norton app in utilities folder named optimize. If you haven't
tried that, it may solve the prob. It did for me, a couple of years ago. I
no longer install Norton.

--
R T
address anti-spammed


| (e-mail address removed) wrote:
| > Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my
| > XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton
| > Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need,
| > and launch the thing.
| >
| > I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and
| > have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed
| > Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang !
| >
| > Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing.
| >
| > I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was
| > told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and
| > boy did it "run"
| >
| >>From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran
| > throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed
| > Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !!
| >
| > Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again,
| > no, it's still "running".
| >
| > Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad
| > tho.
|
| Two lessons:
| Microsoft sucks.
| Norton sucks bigger.
|
| Nem

 

[Bill Sharpe]

Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my
XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton
Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need,
and launch the thing.

I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and
have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed
Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang !

Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing.

I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was
told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and
boy did it "run"

throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed
Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !!

Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again,
no, it's still "running".

Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad
tho.

How much free space is there on the disk you are trying to defrag?
Although I no longer use any Norton Utilities (I was a fan from DOS days
and Peter Norton lived just a few blocks from me) I seem to remember
that Speed Disk hiccups if your hd is more than about 90% full.

Bill

 

[penang]

Disk Doctor reported no problem at all. It's just that the Speed Disk
decided to get stuck at the "4%" mark for over 36 hours.

Here are the specs:

CPU: Pentium 4 - 2.66 GHz
HD: Western Digital 500 GB

Partitions: Drive C: NTFS 30 GB ( where the XP and programs reside)
Drive D: NTFS 100 GB
Drive E: NTFS 200 GB
Drive F: NTFS 150+ GB

I thought it's my machine that is at fault, so I even reformated the
disk. Then do the re--installing of OS and Norton SystemWorks, then do
the online updating of the OS and the Liveupdate of Norton SystemWorks
2007, then do the Disk Doctor to ensure there's no problem anywhere,
and then Speed Disk .... SAME THING HAPPENS 1

I tried XP's own "defragment" programs, it works. I even downloaded
some ntfs defragment freewares, they all work. The only thing that
refuses to work is Norton Speed Disk.

I don't know why.

And I think I'm giving up on Norton Speed Disk, at least for now.

 

[penang]

How much free space is there on the disk you are trying to defrag?
Although I no longer use any Norton Utilities (I was a fan from DOS days
and Peter Norton lived just a few blocks from me) I seem to remember
that Speed Disk hiccups if your hd is more than about 90% full.

Bill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In my case, the 30GB partition is 95% free ! And still Norton Speed
Disk got stuck there.

I'm a Norton Utilities user since DOS days also - and at that time, I
used both PCTools and NU. Now PCTools is no more, and NU is turning
into crabs. Kinda sad.

 

[penang]

A number of experts agree that the retail AV version of McAfee, Norton and
Trend Micro has become cumbersome and bloated for the average user.

The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it
using Norton's own uninstall toolhttp://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/200503310816...
and get a refund
As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before
proceeding.

If this doesn't work use this:
Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easilyhttp://www.revouninstaller.com/
and/or
RegSeekerhttp://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm
Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions.http://www..larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt

While Norton's removal tool usually gets the job done, you may also want to
go to:http://www.snapfiles.com/get/winsockxpfix.html
and download a copy of winsockxpfix just in case. Rarely, the removal of
NIS breakes the networking components in XP to the point where internet
access is impossible. This little utility will fix it back up.

Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine!
Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom
Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. In
fact, most of experts (incl. Norton) believe that scanning incoming and
outgoing mail causes e-mail file corruption.

Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Freehttp://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html

Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Editionhttp://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
(Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)

AVG Anti-Virus Free Editionhttp://free.grisoft.com/

Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Freehttp://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser

ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Freehttp://www.eset.com/
Have you seen these "extra settings for NOD32"?http://www.wilderssecurity..com/showthread.php?t=37509

On-demand AV application (add it to your arsenal and use it as a "second
opinion" av scanner).
BitDefender10 Free Editionhttp://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-14-en--BitDefender-8-Free-Edition....

A-S applications (grab'em all).

The effectiveness of an individual AV A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and
oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that
cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple
products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what
another may miss.

SuperAntispyware - Freehttp://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html

Ad-Aware - Freehttp://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.phphttp://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html

Spybot Search & Destroy - Freehttp://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
(I don't use the Immunisation function and TeaTimer application)

Windows Defender _ Freehttp://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
Interesting reading:http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html
"...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects
changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about
the actual threat."

Some more useful applications:
Spyware Blaster - Freehttp://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

Rootkit Revealer - Freehttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/RootkitReveal...

Crap Cleaner _ Freehttp://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/
If Windows Defender is utilized go to Applications, under Utilities
uncheck "Windows Defender"

CW Shredder - Freehttp://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Popup-Ad-Spyware-Blockers/CWShr...

Good luck

Wow ! Many thanks for the most useful tips !!

Thanks again !