Norton Ghost 2003???

L

Lou

I've been using Drive Image 2002 with XP Home and now with SP2.

Recently found out PowerQuest was acquired by Symantec. At some time
I will have to replace Drive Image. Tried to seach Symantec site for
info on Ghost. Not having much success.

1. Is there a website to get detailed info on Ghost?

I specifically want to know if Ghost supports networked drives and
does it provide the means to create a DOS boot disk with TCPIP drivers
supporting networked drives to recover system in event of HDD crash?
I am doing all this with Drive Image 2002.

Lou
 
B

Barry Watzman

DriveImage 7 has the ability to image the system disk (the C: drive in
most cases) while windows is running, from Windows, without starting up
MS-DOS (actually DR-DOS). But, to get this, it's a radically different
program. However, I can't agree with your "piece of garbage"
characterization.

HOWEVER, Drive Image 7 CAME WITH the previous version (as a
full-product, entirely separate CD-ROM) at no extra cost. So you really
can't complain.

Personally, I think that Drive Image -- both versions -- are better than
Ghost, and I expect that Ghost will disappear, but that DI will be able
to read Ghost backups.
 
B

Barry Watzman

It's more likely that Drive Image will replace Ghost than that Ghost
will replace Drive Image. Otherwise, why would Symantec have paid
millions to acquire PowerQuest, which only has 2 products.
 
G

Greg R

I think you need to look up the definition of Acquisition.

This was not there product to began with.

Greg R
 
B

Barry Watzman

Right, Ghost has not been a norton product since it's inception. Ghost
was originally written by a small independent software company from New
Zealand, Binary Research Limited, in 1998, and it was sold and became
prominent on it's own, well before being acquired by Symantec.

Second, Symantec (Gordon Eubanks company) bought Peter Norton computing
a very, very long time ago -- I think in the late 1980's, or, if not, in
the early 1990's. For all practical purposes, it's absurd to refer to
"Norton" and "Symantec" as if they were separate companies.
 
N

NoNoBadDog!

I never said it was. I said that they acquired it when Peter Norton sold it
to them.

Get some help for the drug problem...you'll thank yourself later.

Bobby
 
R

Rock

Jerry said:
I certainly hope Symantec does not replace ghost with Drive Image. Pre-XP
DriveImage 2002 was very good. Post XP, and Drive Image 7 is a piece of
garbage. Ghost 2003 (which comes in Symantec's Systemworks 2004) is
excellent once you learn to use it. There is a lot more to it than the
tutorials lead you to believe.

Drive Image 7 works great.
 
R

Rock

Barry said:
It's more likely that Drive Image will replace Ghost than that Ghost
will replace Drive Image. Otherwise, why would Symantec have paid
millions to acquire PowerQuest, which only has 2 products.

For the technology and to kill a competitor, but not to replace Ghost,
IMO.
 
M

Michael Cecil

For the technology and to kill a competitor, but not to replace Ghost,
IMO.

Symantec just released Ghost 9. The Drive Image pages are all now
pointing to the Ghost pages or the Symantec homepage. Looks like the
better product won and DI is going the way of the dodo.
 
A

Al Smith

I certainly hope Symantec does not replace ghost with Drive Image. Pre-XP
DriveImage 2002 was very good. Post XP, and Drive Image 7 is a piece of
garbage. Ghost 2003 (which comes in Symantec's Systemworks 2004) is
excellent once you learn to use it. There is a lot more to it than the
tutorials lead you to believe.

I don't know why you say this. I like Drive Image 7, mostly. The
file browser is a step backward from the old file browser. In the
old one, you could just drag a file from the compressed backup set
to a folder on the hard drive -- any folder or any hard drive --
and it would be uncompressed and copied out. The new browser
doesn't seem to show the complete file tree for the computer, only
the file tree of the backup set. As I say, a step backward. But
the backup function itself works very nicely, and I like being
able to mirror my C drive without leaving Windows XP.
 
P

Peter Wilkins

I've been using Drive Image 2002 with XP Home and now with SP2.

Recently found out PowerQuest was acquired by Symantec. At some time
I will have to replace Drive Image. Tried to seach Symantec site for
info on Ghost. Not having much success.

1. Is there a website to get detailed info on Ghost?
Yes.
http://www.symantec.com/

I specifically want to know if Ghost supports networked drives and
does it provide the means to create a DOS boot disk with TCPIP drivers
supporting networked drives to recover system in event of HDD crash?
I am doing all this with Drive Image 2002.
I don't know about earlier versions of Ghost, but I am successfully
using Ghost 2003 to backup images to network drives. I assume later
versions of Ghost will do it too. I use XP Pro.

There is a slight complication with Ghost 2003- the network drive that
you want to backup to has to be mapped on the computer being backed
up, but that's pretty easy to do, so it just appears as another
lettered drive on the computer being backed up.
I use Y and Z for the two partitions I alternately backup to.

I can read the images from the network using Ghost Explorer and easily
and quickly restore individual files if needed rather than the whole
image. That's a real pain to do using multidisc DVD or CD images.

I do find backup not fully reliable via my WiFi (11M) - sometimes it
has failed part way through the image. So when I want to do a backup
I plug in the wired ethernet link (100M) and have never had problems
with that.

You can create a networked boot floppy - if you have a floppy drive.
I had to buy a USB external one as my laptop didn't have one, just in
case I ever need it, but it's a bit belt and braces as you can also
create bootable DVD or CD images from Ghost. I keep a bootable DVD
image backup handy, that I can use to get the system back up, then I
can restore from the latest network image over the network.

So the floppy is really redundant but it came with a multi card
reader/writer covering the three cards I use (CF, SD and SM) so I
figured it was worth it.....
 
P

Peter Wilkins

Personally, I think that Drive Image -- both versions -- are better than
Ghost, and I expect that Ghost will disappear, but that DI will be able
to read Ghost backups.
I'm told that Acronis True Image 8 is better than both of them, but I
haven't tried it myself.
 
G

Greg R

Peter,
I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think
it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from
a dos boot disk.



Side Note for nonobaddog.-I don’t appreciate your comment. You need
to read your post again.
 
N

NoNoBadDog!

Side note to Greg R.

Not man enough to admit you are wrong...that 's okay. Some people are like
that.

Ghost was written by Peter Norton. It has always been a Norton product.
It became the property of Symantec when Peter Norton sold his company to
Symantec.

Simple.

If you don't get it...oh well.

Otherwise, STFU.

Bobby
 
P

Peter Wilkins

Peter,
I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think
it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from
a dos boot disk.
Thanks for that info. I have used earlier versions of Ghost
successfully but not over a network and not with NTFS partitions, and
I'm not too keen to upgrade to later versions of the Ghosted-Drive
Image or whatever combination it will be now Symantec has Drive Image.
Particularly if they won't restore my NTFS partitions using the boot
floppy!

I'm currently evaluating Acronis True Image and it seems pretty good
so far - and avoids the reversion to DOS altogether. I still have
some reservations about backing up "in-use" files from within Windows,
with the possibility that some files will have changed after backing
up earlier ones, so you might not get a "True Image" after all, but
who knows?
 
P

Pivert

Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from
floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9
however).

"Peter Wilkins" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
Peter,
I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think
it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from
a dos boot disk.
Thanks for that info. I have used earlier versions of Ghost
successfully but not over a network and not with NTFS partitions, and
I'm not too keen to upgrade to later versions of the Ghosted-Drive
Image or whatever combination it will be now Symantec has Drive Image.
Particularly if they won't restore my NTFS partitions using the boot
floppy!

I'm currently evaluating Acronis True Image and it seems pretty good
so far - and avoids the reversion to DOS altogether. I still have
some reservations about backing up "in-use" files from within Windows,
with the possibility that some files will have changed after backing
up earlier ones, so you might not get a "True Image" after all, but
who knows?
 

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