Before I cry please help.

S

Stephen

Yesterday I formatted my C drive via XP Home Recovery Console, and
reinstalled XP
onto a C Drive.

Over the past week I have transferred ALL my data from C drive to a totally
separate drive: G DRIVE.

The G drive is 299GB (loads of family videos ready to be processed).

After I had finished I had 20GB left.

My old drives set up was;

C Drive (Main) NFTS 74.49GB
D Drive (a partition of C) 39MB FAT (factory set this up)
E DVD RW Drive
C DVD Drive
G Drive (for video editing) 299GB NFTS

After XP has installed this is what has happened;

Disk 0: E 39MB
C 74.49GB

Disk 1: 298.09GB NTFS

CD ROM 0 - DVD (F)

CD ROM 1 - CDROM (G)


As you will appreciate at the moment I want to know how my data has been
removed from
drive G - or is it possible that the data is still on the drive, but XP is
not reporting it properly.

When I open drive D none of my data is on the disk.

I am totally bemused and would appreciate any help on how to get my data
back etc.

** I DID NOT FORMAT THE "G" DRIVE **

Thanks in advance, Stephen
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Stephen said:
Yesterday I formatted my C drive via XP Home Recovery Console, and
reinstalled XP
onto a C Drive.

Over the past week I have transferred ALL my data from C drive to a
totally separate drive: G DRIVE.

The G drive is 299GB (loads of family videos ready to be processed).

After I had finished I had 20GB left.

My old drives set up was;

C Drive (Main) NFTS 74.49GB
D Drive (a partition of C) 39MB FAT (factory set this up)
E DVD RW Drive
C DVD Drive
G Drive (for video editing) 299GB NFTS

After XP has installed this is what has happened;

Disk 0: E 39MB
C 74.49GB

Disk 1: 298.09GB NTFS

CD ROM 0 - DVD (F)

CD ROM 1 - CDROM (G)


As you will appreciate at the moment I want to know how my data has
been removed from
drive G - or is it possible that the data is still on the drive,
but XP is not reporting it properly.

When I open drive D none of my data is on the disk.

I am totally bemused and would appreciate any help on how to get my
data back etc.

** I DID NOT FORMAT THE "G" DRIVE **

You can actually *open* the drive that should contain the data *in* Windows
Explorer without error and there is nothing - no files, nothing - there?

What do the properties on the drive tell you?
If you go into Disk Manager - what does it show? (Free/used space, etc.)
 
S

Stephen

Thanks Shenan.

On Drive G is the following;

Two files that start
94d501************
453db*************

Which contain SP2GDR & SP2QFE

Documents & Settings / All Users

Program Files / Common Files (includes Speech Engine ??)

RECYCLER

System Volume Information

Windows (which seems to be a full install of Windows)

I could have not been more careful formatting the C drive.

I wish I had removed it now.

Thanks.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Stephen said:
Yesterday I formatted my C drive via XP Home Recovery Console, and
reinstalled XP
onto a C Drive.

Over the past week I have transferred ALL my data from C drive to a
totally separate drive: G DRIVE.

The G drive is 299GB (loads of family videos ready to be processed).

After I had finished I had 20GB left.

My old drives set up was;

C Drive (Main) NFTS 74.49GB
D Drive (a partition of C) 39MB FAT (factory set this up)
E DVD RW Drive
C DVD Drive
G Drive (for video editing) 299GB NFTS

After XP has installed this is what has happened;

Disk 0: E 39MB
C 74.49GB

Disk 1: 298.09GB NTFS

CD ROM 0 - DVD (F)

CD ROM 1 - CDROM (G)


As you will appreciate at the moment I want to know how my data has
been removed from
drive G - or is it possible that the data is still on the drive,
but XP is not reporting it properly.

When I open drive D none of my data is on the disk.

I am totally bemused and would appreciate any help on how to get my
data back etc.

** I DID NOT FORMAT THE "G" DRIVE **

Shenan said:
You can actually *open* the drive that should contain the data *in*
Windows Explorer without error and there is nothing - no files,
nothing - there?
What do the properties on the drive tell you?
If you go into Disk Manager - what does it show? (Free/used space,
etc.)
On Drive G is the following;

Two files that start
94d501************
453db*************

Which contain SP2GDR & SP2QFE

Documents & Settings / All Users

Program Files / Common Files (includes Speech Engine ??)

RECYCLER

System Volume Information

Windows (which seems to be a full install of Windows)

I could have not been more careful formatting the C drive.

I wish I had removed it now.
Sorry forgot - G Drive has used 610MB - there is 297GB free space.

Eep. Not a good sign.

It sounds like you installed - somewhat - Windows XP onto Drive G.
(Given it contains - as drive D - the directories you list above.)

Does your C drive contain all that too?

You may wish to try:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4474.html

It has worked for many people in the past. (It is free)

The best product I can recommend for recovery of these files - although it
costs money - is "UnDelete". Out of all the ones I have ever used, it is by
far the easiest in situations like this. Not only that - but I recommend
installing it as a continuous use product - since it can be useful that way
too. For the $30-$50, to me, it's worth that and more. www.undelete.com
--> home product is fine.

You can use the trial first!!
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Yesterday I formatted my C drive via XP Home Recovery Console, and
reinstalled XP
onto a C Drive.

Over the past week I have transferred ALL my data from C drive to a totally
separate drive: G DRIVE.

The G drive is 299GB (loads of family videos ready to be processed).

After I had finished I had 20GB left.

My old drives set up was;

C Drive (Main) NFTS 74.49GB
D Drive (a partition of C) 39MB FAT (factory set this up)
E DVD RW Drive
C DVD Drive


Do you mean F, not C?

G Drive (for video editing) 299GB NFTS

After XP has installed this is what has happened;

Disk 0: E 39MB
C 74.49GB


That is apparently the drive that used to be called Drive C:, and is
where Windows is installed. Is that correct?


Disk 1: 298.09GB NTFS


That is the drive that apparently used to be called drive G. Does it
not have a drive letter?


CD ROM 0 - DVD (F)

CD ROM 1 - CDROM (G)


And these are apparently what used to be called E and F.

What are letters C and D assigned to

As you will appreciate at the moment I want to know how my data has been
removed from
drive G - or is it possible that the data is still on the drive, but XP is
not reporting it properly.


The data is probably still there. What has happened is tat the drive
letter assignments changed when you reinstalled. What used to be
called drive G is no longer called that.


When I open drive D none of my data is on the disk.


Is that still the 39MB FAT partition you mention above, or is
something else? What is it?

What happens if you try to open C:?
 
S

Stephen

Thanks Ken.


I am so wound up I did mean drive F and not C.

To make it easier I have answered all the questions between
theses lines

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
question & answer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Can I point out that when "XP Install" was about to start,
XP recognized the C Drive and the D partition.

You say the data that used to be on "G" might still be on the drive
(now "D") - but if Windows shows so much free space . . . .
that's what is worrying me. Or could it be that Windows
could report it incorrectly, because maybe it hasn't built
an integral table or something.

I did refresh the drive. It said it was healthy.

Have you heard of this happening before?

The old G drive has been installed for two years,
and was a "slave" to the master - is it possible that
XP has decided to install too two drives at the same time?

My answers are below - cheers.


Ken Blake said:
Do you mean F, not C?




That is apparently the drive that used to be called Drive C:, and is
where Windows is installed. Is that correct?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
NO - my main drive was C - OS was on C
C was partinioned and was called D

So above drive D has been renamed to E.

Windows has been installed twice - on drive C
as I requested - and drive G which I had no say in.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That is the drive that apparently used to be called drive G. Does it
not have a drive letter?

YES - sorry, drive D.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And these are apparently what used to be called E and F. Correct.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What are letters C and D assigned to

C is still main drive.
My G drive is now known as D
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The data is probably still there. What has happened is tat the drive
letter assignments changed when you reinstalled. What used to be
called drive G is no longer called that.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Is that still the 39MB FAT partition you mention above, or is
something else? What is it?

NO - the old D partion is now called E
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What happens if you try to open C:?
It has the OS on it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Thanks Ken.


I am so wound up I did mean drive F and not C.

To make it easier I have answered all the questions between
theses lines

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
question & answer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Can I point out that when "XP Install" was about to start,
XP recognized the C Drive and the D partition.

You say the data that used to be on "G" might still be on the drive
(now "D") - but if Windows shows so much free space . . . .
that's what is worrying me. Or could it be that Windows
could report it incorrectly, because maybe it hasn't built
an integral table or something.

I did refresh the drive. It said it was healthy.

Have you heard of this happening before?

The old G drive has been installed for two years,
and was a "slave" to the master - is it possible that
XP has decided to install too two drives at the same time?

My answers are below - cheers.



NO - my main drive was C - OS was on C



Yes, I understand what it used to be. But drive letters are not
attached to the drives, they are assigned by the operating system when
you install it. The drive letters you had before are not necessarily
relevant.


What is now on the drive now called E:?

C was partinioned and was called D


No, drive 0 was partitioned and the two partitions were called C and
D.

The correct terminology is important, because otherwise we will
confuse each other.

Before we go any further with this, you say you reinstalled Windows.
Please describe exactly how you did this, since it's beginning to
sound like you did it incorrectly. In particular, did you run the
installation from within Windows, or did you boot from the Windows CD
to install.
 
S

Stephen

I hope this is the info you need;

From Computer Management / Disk Management

Volume Layout Type File System

Disk 0 Partition Basic NTFS (the display shows drive
C)
Disk 1 Partition Basic NTFS (the display shows drive
D)
Disk 0 Partition Basic NTFS (the display shows drive
E)


Disk 0 contains

Documents & Settings
Program Files
Recycled
Windows OS

This shows up as MBR
Location 0 (0)

This copy of Windows contains many $NtUninstallKB89461$ - as I updated
Windows as son as I could.



Disk 1 contains

Documents & Settings
Program Files
Recycled
Windows OS
This shows up as MBR
Location 1 (1)


Disk 0 contains

BIOS (empty)
FLASH
MEM (empty)
PCDR
Recycled
SETUP
TEST (I think this empty "test" is a folder I created months ago).

#################################################

Before I started on Wednesday morning I decided to do a Repair Install, the
site told me to remove certain files because I had SP2 installed.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

So that you have the full picture - this is a copy of a post I sent
yesterday.
The outcome of this post was that I FORMATTED C DRIVE via the Recovery
Console;

from memory - C:\Windows 0 - Format: C

## ## #### ## ##
Copy of Post

Hi

For the past 2 weeks XP Home kept crashing (BSOD).

Today I tried to do a "Repair Install" using the CD.

Before I did this I followed advice found on the web, to remove
Service Pack 2 files BEFORE attempting a repair.

This immediately caused problems because it messed Windows up,
and I couldn't get back into it - or Safe Mode.

While repairing using the CD, my system crashed again.
I kept trying - it kept crashing (every time just before the repair
finished).

Over the last few weeks I have done CDISK/R may times, as BSOD
asked on a few occasions. The last report I saw was that it's all OK.

BUT - I think the drive is corrupted, because it seems to crash when
writing to it.

I have looked up all BSOD STOP codes - but it changes every time.

Yesterday for instance the system was on for a full 4 hours while
transferring from C to G.

At the moment I cannot afford a new hard drive and would prefer to at
least try and FORMAT it and see if that solves the problem.

MY QUESTION;

How can I FORMAT my "C" Hard Drive - when I haven't got Windows installed?

I wanted to try MSDOS - but am I right in saying MSDOS will not be installed
if Windows isn't installed?

If I can use MSDOS - could someone tell me how I get into MSDOS?

Also refresh me on then DOS for FORMAT, etc.

I have backed everything to G Drive - I have 20GB free space remaining.

I have restored BOIS to boot form HD (C) - it immediately goes to Windows
Install and try's to continue with the installation.

If I can't use MSDOS - has anyone got any ideas how I can approach this.

I have tried everything I know - I am completely stuck now.

Many thanks in advance - Stephen

#################################################################

So this is how I did it.

On a clean formatted C drive, I booted from the CD drive. (changed BIOS)

I selected to install fresh copy of XP to C Drive.

At this point I had to FORMAT C drive again - after it had formatted, it
automatically
started to install XP.

It 'hung' at 13 minuets.

Google said only way was to restart system.

I did this and it sailed through.

I know it seems hard to believe but I never formatted or selected drive G in
any shape or form.
In fact Drive G did not display or provide an option at the "partition
stage".

Sorry to bore you with all this info.

If I do not reply, it is because I've got to leave this borrowed laptop now,
and won't be
be back until around 1pm (UK time) Friday.

Thanks once again.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Sorry, but I got more confused with each of your posts. You tried to
do a repair installation, and it crashed. So you then tried a clean
installation by booting from the CD, and that didn't complete, hanging
after 13 minutes.

Is that correct? If so, it's extremely difficult for me to determine
what state the drive is in now. Everything I thought I understood
earlier seems to be wrong, and it sounds like at this point your drive
may be screwed up beyond repair.



I hope this is the info you need;

From Computer Management / Disk Management

Volume Layout Type File System

Disk 0 Partition Basic NTFS (the display shows drive
C)
Disk 1 Partition Basic NTFS (the display shows drive
D)
Disk 0 Partition Basic NTFS (the display shows drive
E)


Disk 0 contains

Documents & Settings
Program Files
Recycled
Windows OS

This shows up as MBR
Location 0 (0)

This copy of Windows contains many $NtUninstallKB89461$ - as I updated
Windows as son as I could.



Disk 1 contains

Documents & Settings
Program Files
Recycled
Windows OS
This shows up as MBR
Location 1 (1)


Disk 0 contains

BIOS (empty)
FLASH
MEM (empty)
PCDR
Recycled
SETUP
TEST (I think this empty "test" is a folder I created months ago).

#################################################

Before I started on Wednesday morning I decided to do a Repair Install, the
site told me to remove certain files because I had SP2 installed.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

So that you have the full picture - this is a copy of a post I sent
yesterday.
The outcome of this post was that I FORMATTED C DRIVE via the Recovery
Console;

from memory - C:\Windows 0 - Format: C

## ## #### ## ##
Copy of Post

Hi

For the past 2 weeks XP Home kept crashing (BSOD).

Today I tried to do a "Repair Install" using the CD.

Before I did this I followed advice found on the web, to remove
Service Pack 2 files BEFORE attempting a repair.

This immediately caused problems because it messed Windows up,
and I couldn't get back into it - or Safe Mode.

While repairing using the CD, my system crashed again.
I kept trying - it kept crashing (every time just before the repair
finished).

Over the last few weeks I have done CDISK/R may times, as BSOD
asked on a few occasions. The last report I saw was that it's all OK.

BUT - I think the drive is corrupted, because it seems to crash when
writing to it.

I have looked up all BSOD STOP codes - but it changes every time.

Yesterday for instance the system was on for a full 4 hours while
transferring from C to G.

At the moment I cannot afford a new hard drive and would prefer to at
least try and FORMAT it and see if that solves the problem.

MY QUESTION;

How can I FORMAT my "C" Hard Drive - when I haven't got Windows installed?

I wanted to try MSDOS - but am I right in saying MSDOS will not be installed
if Windows isn't installed?

If I can use MSDOS - could someone tell me how I get into MSDOS?

Also refresh me on then DOS for FORMAT, etc.

I have backed everything to G Drive - I have 20GB free space remaining.

I have restored BOIS to boot form HD (C) - it immediately goes to Windows
Install and try's to continue with the installation.

If I can't use MSDOS - has anyone got any ideas how I can approach this.

I have tried everything I know - I am completely stuck now.

Many thanks in advance - Stephen

#################################################################

So this is how I did it.

On a clean formatted C drive, I booted from the CD drive. (changed BIOS)

I selected to install fresh copy of XP to C Drive.

At this point I had to FORMAT C drive again - after it had formatted, it
automatically
started to install XP.

It 'hung' at 13 minuets.

Google said only way was to restart system.

I did this and it sailed through.

I know it seems hard to believe but I never formatted or selected drive G in
any shape or form.
In fact Drive G did not display or provide an option at the "partition
stage".

Sorry to bore you with all this info.

If I do not reply, it is because I've got to leave this borrowed laptop now,
and won't be
be back until around 1pm (UK time) Friday.

Thanks once again.
 
D

Daave

Wow!!!

Most of the time, people don't post enough information. I'd have to say
that you posted *too much* information, Stephen! It's very hard to
follow.

Here are some thoughts:

1. Assuming you deleted all your data, I would follow Shenan's advice
ASAP. The longer you put it off, the more you use that hard drive, the
more likely you will not be able to retrieve your data. Although you may
not be able to retrieve all of it, there's a strong chance you can
retrieve most of it. For your benefit, I'll copy his helpful info again:

You may wish to try:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4474.html

It has worked for many people in the past. (It is free)

The best product I can recommend for recovery of these files - although
it
costs money - is "UnDelete". Out of all the ones I have ever used, it
is by
far the easiest in situations like this. Not only that - but I
recommend
installing it as a continuous use product - since it can be useful that
way
too. For the $30-$50, to me, it's worth that and more.
www.undelete.com
--> home product is fine.

You can use the trial first!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd physically remove the hard drive that contains your data just so you
don't accidentally write to it again. Your master hard drive should have
XP on it. At this point, I'd do a proper clean install (if you haven't
done so already):

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

Install Restoration or UnDelete on this drive (actually, Restoration can
even be run from a floppy disk). Reattach the other drive. Retrieve the
deleted data. If your master hard drive isn't large enough, then use an
external hard drive.

2. Once you have sorted everything out, make sure you have a plan to
back up your data regularly. It would also be a good idea to make an
image of your hard drive that contains XP, especially once it has all
the updates installed, etc. That way, if you ever run into a problem
with your OS again, you can simply restore from the image. Acronis is a
popular program for this procedure.

3. Next time if you get BSODs or other issues, again you may either
restore from the image or post the specific issue(s) here. There is no
reason to format!!!

Good luck.


I hope this is the info you need;

From Computer Management / Disk Management

Volume Layout Type File System

Disk 0 Partition Basic NTFS (the display
shows drive C)
Disk 1 Partition Basic NTFS (the display
shows drive D)
Disk 0 Partition Basic NTFS (the display
shows drive E)


Disk 0 contains

Documents & Settings
Program Files
Recycled
Windows OS

This shows up as MBR
Location 0 (0)

This copy of Windows contains many $NtUninstallKB89461$ - as I updated
Windows as son as I could.



Disk 1 contains

Documents & Settings
Program Files
Recycled
Windows OS
This shows up as MBR
Location 1 (1)


Disk 0 contains

BIOS (empty)
FLASH
MEM (empty)
PCDR
Recycled
SETUP
TEST (I think this empty "test" is a folder I created months ago).

#################################################

Before I started on Wednesday morning I decided to do a Repair
Install, the site told me to remove certain files because I had SP2
installed. http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

So that you have the full picture - this is a copy of a post I sent
yesterday.
The outcome of this post was that I FORMATTED C DRIVE via the Recovery
Console;

from memory - C:\Windows 0 - Format: C

## ## #### ## ##
Copy of Post

Hi

For the past 2 weeks XP Home kept crashing (BSOD).

Today I tried to do a "Repair Install" using the CD.

Before I did this I followed advice found on the web, to remove
Service Pack 2 files BEFORE attempting a repair.

This immediately caused problems because it messed Windows up,
and I couldn't get back into it - or Safe Mode.

While repairing using the CD, my system crashed again.
I kept trying - it kept crashing (every time just before the repair
finished).

Over the last few weeks I have done CDISK/R may times, as BSOD
asked on a few occasions. The last report I saw was that it's all OK.

BUT - I think the drive is corrupted, because it seems to crash when
writing to it.

I have looked up all BSOD STOP codes - but it changes every time.

Yesterday for instance the system was on for a full 4 hours while
transferring from C to G.

At the moment I cannot afford a new hard drive and would prefer to at
least try and FORMAT it and see if that solves the problem.

MY QUESTION;

How can I FORMAT my "C" Hard Drive - when I haven't got Windows
installed?

I wanted to try MSDOS - but am I right in saying MSDOS will not be
installed if Windows isn't installed?

If I can use MSDOS - could someone tell me how I get into MSDOS?

Also refresh me on then DOS for FORMAT, etc.

I have backed everything to G Drive - I have 20GB free space
remaining.

I have restored BOIS to boot form HD (C) - it immediately goes to
Windows Install and try's to continue with the installation.

If I can't use MSDOS - has anyone got any ideas how I can approach
this.

I have tried everything I know - I am completely stuck now.

Many thanks in advance - Stephen

#################################################################

So this is how I did it.

On a clean formatted C drive, I booted from the CD drive. (changed
BIOS)

I selected to install fresh copy of XP to C Drive.

At this point I had to FORMAT C drive again - after it had formatted,
it automatically
started to install XP.

It 'hung' at 13 minuets.

Google said only way was to restart system.

I did this and it sailed through.

I know it seems hard to believe but I never formatted or selected
drive G in any shape or form.
In fact Drive G did not display or provide an option at the "partition
stage".

Sorry to bore you with all this info.

If I do not reply, it is because I've got to leave this borrowed
laptop now, and won't be
be back until around 1pm (UK time) Friday.

Thanks once again.
 
S

Stephen

KEN - I SENT THE FOLLOWING ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO - IT IS NOT SHOWING - SO SENT
AGAIN


Ken, the format of drive C was successful via the Recovery Console (like
MSDOS).

I had to format drive C because I had no other options.

As this was the first time I have done this I am quoting from memory . . .
..

.. . . . . When I installed XP Home it gave a few options - I cannot remember
if the installation required that I format C (again) or not, but C drive was
formatted again to allow a fresh installation of XP Home to be installed on
drive C.

It did hang at 13 minutes (which is not uncommon - see Google).

I restarted my system and the installation said " . . . Set up will
continue"

Windows successfully installed on to my C drive - no problems.

MY PROBLEM

My problem is focused on what was my OLD drive - whch was known as G.
This disk is now listed as D - which is DISK 1 - which is location 1.

This disk has also got a copy of the OS
(but is not active - as updates wrote to the main drive DISK 0 (drive C).

MY QUESTIONS

1) How can I rename the drives (like they used to be)

2) Even though the Operating System has written to DISK 1 (without my
permission)
is it possible that most or some of my precious data is still
residing on this drive.

3) When an OS is written to a disk/drive - does this automatically wipe
out everything else.

I hope this is clearer.

To sum up;

No problem with Disk 0 (main drive C)

Disk 1 (drive D) - is there any hope?


Regards, Stephen




----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Blake, MVP" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: Before I cry please help.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Stephen said:
KEN - I SENT THE FOLLOWING ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO - IT IS NOT SHOWING -
SO SENT AGAIN

The entire thread:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/co...echnet-winxp&lang=en&cr=US&sloc=en-us&m=1&p=1

You are giving too much information at this point. It's hard to sift
through.

Essentially - what we *must* know is that you have two physical hard disk
drives:
One 80GB and one 320GB. Formatted (usable size) will be less - thus your
numbers.

Previously you supposedly copied a LOT of data to the 320GB drive (which had
one partition on it) in preparation for some sort of installation/repair on
the other drive (the 80GB) which was your boot/system drive.

Drive letters are irrelevant at this time.

You performed your clean install and when it got to the point where it asked
you 'which partition to install Windows XP upon' - you chose the 80GB hard
disk drive and its single partition, deleted said partition, created a new
partition and formatted it. You *watched* it format ~75GB - no more?

You continued the install and you believed it got stuck at the T-13 (T minus
thirteen) stage of the install - which is where any custom apps (if the CD
has been customized) are notrmally installed. So you Googled and found out
this is a *common* (I have never had it happen persoanlly - but *shrug*)
occurence and the solution is to reboot. So you did and the install picked
up where it left off and finished the install.

Windows XP booted. You were/are in Windows XP.

Here is what I need you to do *at this point*...

Open Disk Manager...
Start buttun --> RUN --> type in:
diskmgmt.msc
--> Click OK.

When that loads you should see a window with two panes - a top pane and a
bottom pane.

From the top pane I need you to painstakenly copy the lines you see there
and post them here, seperated by a single <enter> (single spaced format) for
each individual line you reproduce.
Example:
(C:) Partition Basic NTFS Healthy (System) 38.4GB 8.59GB 22% No 0%
(E:) Partition Basic FAT32 Healthy 223.62GB 223.55GB 99% No 0%

From the bottom pane, I need you to look at the left side for anything
labeled "Disk #" (# is any numerical value) and I need you to tell me how
many icons labeled "Disk #" there are... (Like "Disk 0", "Disk 1" would be
TWO.)

Since there is no way you could have filled up a 320GB driove (~299GB
formatted) with only 20GB free on it and now it would have more free space
on it than approximately that now WITHOUT either formatting it or erasing
everything on it in some other way (on purpose, accident or involuntarily or
not)... *IF* you see that your 320GB (~299GB) hard disk drive (likely "Disk
1" in the bottom pane) has most of its space free (one of the colums in the
top pane is % Free - it should be fairly low if all your data is there) -
then no matter what - the drive was erased.

If that is the point you are at then you need to stop trying to figure out
the why and how and try to recover what you can - which may be nothing. The
more you mess with this system (use it in any way) the less likely you will
be to recover ANYTHING. I gave you a couple of options to look at the drive
and see if it could find ANYTHING left over. Formatting and erasing -
well - they don't really do what they sound like they do. They merely erase
a table of contents of such - or a line or two fromsaid table of contents.
This makes it harder to access the information - but not impossible.
However - every second that computer is on and everytime you do something
else - you are risking some bit of data being overwritten (since the table
of contents for the data is gone - the computer goes with the assumption
that these are 'blank pages' and it writes where ever it pleases - likely,
in the case of a nearly full drive, overwriting some parts of the data you
are trying to recover.)

I am going to repeat my posting to you again - as it seems to have been
ignored by you at some point. Perhaps you just never saw it.


You may wish to try:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4474.html

It has worked for many people in the past. (It is free)

The best product I can recommend for recovery of these files - although it
costs money - is "UnDelete". Out of all the ones I have ever used, it is by
far the easiest in situations like this. Not only that - but I recommend
installing it as a continuous use product - since it can be useful that way
too. For the $30-$50, to me, it's worth that and more. www.undelete.com
--> home product is fine.

You can use the trial first!!


That's where you are at now. No one can tell you with any certainty *how*
you got to this point - but given the information you have given (and I
sifted through to get here) and the information you can collect following
the instructions in this response - I feel you have erased (in some fashion)
everything off the 320GB (~299 formatted) hard disk drive and your ONLY hope
is some data recovery application like those I mention above. Sorry to say
it is not a *large* amount of hope - but at least it's a twinkle.

For the future, might I suggest you purchase an external 500+GB USB or
Network drive and use that to backup (duplicate) what you have on your
computer on a periodic basis. Backups to external media is your best net
for a fall like this.

http://www.dealsites.net/
http://www.pricewatch.com/

Good Luck!
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

KEN - I SENT THE FOLLOWING ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO - IT IS NOT SHOWING - SO SENT
AGAIN



Stephen, please read Shenan's message and follow his good advice. In
particular do this:

"Here is what I need you to do *at this point*...

Open Disk Manager...
Start buttun --> RUN --> type in:
diskmgmt.msc
--> Click OK.

When that loads you should see a window with two panes - a top pane
and a bottom pane.

From the top pane I need you to painstakenly copy the lines you see
there and post them here, seperated by a single <enter> (single spaced
format) for each individual line you reproduce."

Looking at that will help clarify the situation, which is still
confusing to me.



Ken, the format of drive C was successful via the Recovery Console (like
MSDOS).

I had to format drive C because I had no other options.

As this was the first time I have done this I am quoting from memory . . .
.

. . . . . When I installed XP Home it gave a few options - I cannot remember
if the installation required that I format C (again) or not, but C drive was
formatted again to allow a fresh installation of XP Home to be installed on
drive C.

It did hang at 13 minutes (which is not uncommon - see Google).

I restarted my system and the installation said " . . . Set up will
continue"

Windows successfully installed on to my C drive - no problems.

MY PROBLEM

My problem is focused on what was my OLD drive - whch was known as G.
This disk is now listed as D - which is DISK 1 - which is location 1.

This disk has also got a copy of the OS
(but is not active - as updates wrote to the main drive DISK 0 (drive C).

MY QUESTIONS

1) How can I rename the drives (like they used to be)

2) Even though the Operating System has written to DISK 1 (without my
permission)
is it possible that most or some of my precious data is still
residing on this drive.

3) When an OS is written to a disk/drive - does this automatically wipe
out everything else.

I hope this is clearer.

To sum up;

No problem with Disk 0 (main drive C)

Disk 1 (drive D) - is there any hope?


Regards, Stephen




----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Blake, MVP" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: Before I cry please help.
 
S

Stephen

Thanks Shenan, here is the info requested;

(C:)Partition Basic NTFS Healthy (System) 74.49GB 70.12GB 94% No 0%
(D:)Partition Basic NTFS Healthy 298.09GB 297.47GB 99% No 0%
(E:)Partition Basic FAT Healthy 39MB 32MB 82% No 0%

Total Drives = 2 (Disk 0 and Disk 1)

Yes - two physical drives - Disk 0 80GB and Disk 1 320GB (I think this is
the correct size).

I didn't leave the install process at any time - I saw the format / yellow
line reach 100%

The system is still crashing (this why I wanted a clean install in the first
place).

UPDATE

My situation is going from bad to worse.

After running Windows Memory Tester - my brand new 1GB RAM is failing
at two points (left it running overnight).

Phoned Crucial UK this afternoon - they are sending out a new stick.

I cannot continue or even attempt to download your suggestion, because
system
crashes ever 2 minutes or so.

When I have a stable XP again - I will download what you said, and try to
sort
out the OLD drive G.

One big lesson learnt - I will never leave any other drives in a system
while XP install or Repair.

I know I haven't done anything wrong and find it outrageous that this could
possibly happen.

Thanks to everyone who has helped so far.

I will come back and report next week.
 

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