NON-Clogging Inkjet of any brand?

[John Thomas Smith]

Wife and I share an office, main printer is a Brother
multi-function monochrome laser (which works very well)

Since she "sometimes" wants color, she has an Epson C82
(warranty replacement for a C80) which she uses weekly
(or sometimes not even every week, the reason the C80
was replaced by the C82)

Now, her C82 also has badly clogged/dried heads due to
not being used very often

After reading here, it seems that the Canon (IP5000?)
is "better" about not clogging the heads... but is ANY
inkjet going to continue to work with only being used
on a weekly basis instead of every day?

I am also thinking about just replacing her inkjet with
a "small" (ie-low cost) color laser, which is over in
message Color Laser that does not LIE about toner?

But, for this message/question... anyone have experience
with any brand/model color inkjet that does not clog if
it is not used more often than once a week? (or less!)


John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

 

[Gary Tait]

After reading here, it seems that the Canon (IP5000?)
is "better" about not clogging the heads... but is ANY
inkjet going to continue to work with only being used
on a weekly basis instead of every day?

All inkjets clog. Weekly might be fine.

I am also thinking about just replacing her inkjet with
a "small" (ie-low cost) color laser, which is over in
message Color Laser that does not LIE about toner?

What, and how much is printed?
Maybe it would be worthwhile to take the printing jobs out.

 

[Martin]

Since she "sometimes" wants color, she has an Epson C82
(warranty replacement for a C80) which she uses weekly
(or sometimes not even every week, the reason the C80
was replaced by the C82)

Now, her C82 also has badly clogged/dried heads due to
not being used very often

Hate to say it but you're just experiencing pretty much any inkjet
printers achilles heel. No matter what brand you use you'll find that
non-use does tend to cause blockages over time.

Personally, it does sound like a low cost colour laser would suit but
in fairness for the same cost penalty it'd be worth considering the
alternative of instalingl the print scheduler utility from MIS for
printing off a purge pattern once every two days or so..

After all, I'd hazzard a guess that printing a purge sheet every one
or two days actually uses less ink than all the cleaning cycles you
need to run after non-use.

OR.. you can get into the practice of sending more stuff to the
printer every few days.

No easy answers but unless you get into the habit of keeping an inkjet
exercised it'll die :-/

 

[John Thomas Smith]

All inkjets clog. Weekly might be fine.

That's what I thought, and why I am thinking of color laser

What, and how much is printed?
Maybe it would be worthwhile to take the printing jobs out.

I don't think so... she is an interior designer, and virtually
all of what she wants to print in color are "idea pages" from
vendor websites to put in a 3ring binder as examples for her
current projects

I'll see if anyone answers in my other message, to find out if
there is such a thing as a color laser that does not FORCE a
cartridge changed based on the vendor's idea of toner usage

John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

 

[measekite]

All inkjets clog. Weekly might be fine.

I USE MY CANON IP4000 ONCE A WEEK WITH CANON OEM INK AND IT NEVER
CLOGGED AND I NEVER DID A CLEANING CYCLE

What, and how much is printed?
Maybe it would be worthwhile to take the printing jobs out.

I HAVE USED FOR OVER 5 YEARS AN HP WITH AN INTEGRATED PRINTHEAD AND CART
AND HAVE NEVER HAD A CLOG. I USED IT ABOUT ONCE EVERY 5 TO 10 DAYS.
THIS IS THE BEST IN YOUR CASE BECAUSE IF THE WORST HAPPENS JUST GO BUY
ANOTHER HP CART AND IT INCLUDES A NEW PRINT HEAD.

 

[measekite]

Wife and I share an office, main printer is a Brother
multi-function monochrome laser (which works very well)

Since she "sometimes" wants color, she has an Epson C82
(warranty replacement for a C80) which she uses weekly
(or sometimes not even every week, the reason the C80
was replaced by the C82)

Now, her C82 also has badly clogged/dried heads due to
not being used very often

THIS IS TYPICAL OF EPSON PRINTERS

After reading here, it seems that the Canon (IP5000?)
is "better" about not clogging the heads... but is ANY
inkjet going to continue to work with only being used
on a weekly basis instead of every day?

BEST BET IS HP WITH INTEGRTADED PRINTHEADS IN THE HP BRANDED CARTS

 

[Taliesyn]

All inkjets clog. Weekly might be fine.

I have the IP5000, IP4000 and I860, and none of them have shown any
eagerness to clog.

Print something weekly or every couple of weeks and that should keep the
printhead from drying (clogging). And it doesn't matter whether it's
Canon brand ink or non-Canon, there is no difference. I use non-Canon
inks in 3 Canon printers and can honestly tell you I haven't seen a
clog. So you just know the resident Canon newsgroup troll is lying
through his ears about clogging problems. I've been printing a lot of
Christmas stuff with my 3rd printer while the other two have sat idle
for three weeks doing nothing other that a weekly nozzle check. All
systems go . . .

Taliesyn

 

[measekite]

I have the IP5000, IP4000 and I860, and none of them have shown any
eagerness to clog.

HE ALREADY CLOGGED UP ONE PRINT HEAD AND HAD TO REPLACE IT. HE IS AN
EXTREMELY HIGH VOLUME USER SO ANYTHING HE SAYS IS NOT FOR THE TYPICAL
USER. HE IS ALSO A TINKERER HOBBYIST SO HE LIKES TO PLAY WITH THE STUFF

Print something weekly or every couple of weeks and that should keep the
printhead from drying (clogging). And it doesn't
DOES

matter whether it's Canon brand ink or non-Canon, there is no

A BIG

 

[Mike Louis]

Hate to say it but you're just experiencing pretty much any inkjet
printers achilles heel. No matter what brand you use you'll find that
non-use does tend to cause blockages over time.

Actually there was a brand of inkjet printer that will not clog even
after being in non-use state for a very long time. It's a Canon BJC-4100
that I have. It was once put aside for more than 2 years and all the ink
cartridges become bone dry and lifeless. But I fed the ink cartridges
with fresh refill ink that I bought from eBay and soaked the printhead
for a minute with water it went back to work like new. Now that I have a
new ip6000D plus another new one in the box still I will have to put
the 4100 back to storage again. I'll probably donate it to some neighborhood
kids...

Mike L

 

[Tim S.]

Wife and I share an office, main printer is a Brother
multi-function monochrome laser (which works very well)

Since she "sometimes" wants color, she has an Epson C82
(warranty replacement for a C80) which she uses weekly
(or sometimes not even every week, the reason the C80
was replaced by the C82)

Now, her C82 also has badly clogged/dried heads due to
not being used very often

After reading here, it seems that the Canon (IP5000?)
is "better" about not clogging the heads... but is ANY
inkjet going to continue to work with only being used
on a weekly basis instead of every day?

I am also thinking about just replacing her inkjet with
a "small" (ie-low cost) color laser, which is over in
message Color Laser that does not LIE about toner?

But, for this message/question... anyone have experience
with any brand/model color inkjet that does not clog if
it is not used more often than once a week? (or less!)


John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

Simple answer is try H.P. When and if the nozzles clog you just replace
the cartridge, as with H.P. the nozzles are built into the cartridge.

Tim

 

[Burt]

Wife and I share an office, main printer is a Brother
multi-function monochrome laser (which works very well)

Since she "sometimes" wants color, she has an Epson C82
(warranty replacement for a C80) which she uses weekly
(or sometimes not even every week, the reason the C80
was replaced by the C82)

Now, her C82 also has badly clogged/dried heads due to
not being used very often

After reading here, it seems that the Canon (IP5000?)
is "better" about not clogging the heads... but is ANY
inkjet going to continue to work with only being used
on a weekly basis instead of every day?

I am also thinking about just replacing her inkjet with
a "small" (ie-low cost) color laser, which is over in
message Color Laser that does not LIE about toner?

But, for this message/question... anyone have experience
with any brand/model color inkjet that does not clog if
it is not used more often than once a week? (or less!)

As mentioned by other posts, they all have the ability to clog when not used
often enough. Although I have no experience with HP inkjet printers I
understand that they have the print head integrated into the ink cartridge
and when you put in a new cartridge you are also installing a new print
head. So - if the head clogs you simply buy a new cartridge. This is more
pricey than the other manufacturers' cartridges but it does prevent the
clogging problem from ruining the printer.

Clogs aren't usually "fatal". If the software utility that comes with the
printer doesn't clear it there are undocumented techniques for cleaning most
clogs. You will find them here on this NG and also on the Nifty-stuff
forum.

Another alternative is to refill your cartridges with bulk inks (I use MIS
inks in my Canon printers, and other participants on this NG also use
Hobbicolor or Formulabs inks in Canons.) With ink that costs about $1 a
cartridge instead of $12, you feel more free to run color prints frequently
to keep the nozzles clear. The easiest carts to refill are Canon. The
newest Canon Pixma printers have a computer chip built into the carts,
however, and I haven't seen much info on refilling them yet. I just bought
two ip5000's - one for my wife and one to set aside as a spare so I can be
assured of the ability to refill the carts. I'm sure that the aftermarket
ink vendors will figure the Canon chipped cart out very quickly and we will
be able to refill them also. There are several prefilled aftermarket carts
available and some of the vendors do tell you with which ink they are
refilled. I prefer refilling them myself as I am assured of the consistancy
of the bulk ink for all the refills out of any individual order. Pay no
attention to our resident troll who will tell you (BS) that these
aftermarket inks cause clogs. I used MIS in a canon i960 printer for well
over a year without any clogs.

 

[Bob Headrick]

But, for this message/question... anyone have experience
with any brand/model color inkjet that does not clog if
it is not used more often than once a week? (or less!)

Most any HP DeskJet or Photosmart should be fine with that printing frequency.

Regards,
Bob Headrick

 

[Jon O'Brien]

...anyone have experience with any brand/model color inkjet that does
not clog if it is not used more often than once a week? (or less!)

As has been mentioned here many times in the past, inkjet clogging isn't
just a matter of brand, model or frequency of use. It seems evident that
factors such as low humidity, dust, direct sunlight and how close the
printer is to a radiator, or other heat source, can be significant. If
your office isn't 'inkjet friendly' you're likely to have problems with
any make or model.

Epson printers are supposed to be particularly prone to clogging. My
current printer is an Epson 2100 but I never have any clogging problems
and I'm convinced that keeping my office window open at all times,
allowing the humid UK air in, is the reason.

Jon.

 

[Tony]

Wife and I share an office, main printer is a Brother
multi-function monochrome laser (which works very well)

Since she "sometimes" wants color, she has an Epson C82
(warranty replacement for a C80) which she uses weekly
(or sometimes not even every week, the reason the C80
was replaced by the C82)

Now, her C82 also has badly clogged/dried heads due to
not being used very often

After reading here, it seems that the Canon (IP5000?)
is "better" about not clogging the heads... but is ANY
inkjet going to continue to work with only being used
on a weekly basis instead of every day?

I am also thinking about just replacing her inkjet with
a "small" (ie-low cost) color laser, which is over in
message Color Laser that does not LIE about toner?

But, for this message/question... anyone have experience
with any brand/model color inkjet that does not clog if
it is not used more often than once a week? (or less!)


John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

I won't try to second guess your needs.
The OKI range of colour lasers almost behave as you would like, at least there
is no waste toner. Because of the way the toner and drum cartridges are
designed to fit together most of the toner is actually dumped into the drum
cartridge. So when you get a toner out or low message you will need to replace
the toner cartridge but there is no waste because the toner that is still in
the drum cartrdige will be used up and replenished from the new toner
cartridge. So the toner cartridge itself will actually be really empty.
The only disadvantage of this is that when the drum needs replacing you "could"
end up throwing away unused toner in the drum cartridge but OKI allow you to
continue to print (25 pages at a time I think) until the toner out is posted
(then you change both cartridges) so no wastage.
Whether the quality, which I think is very good for a laser, will suit your use
is something you will need to determine for yourself.
There may be other makes or models that will suit your needs also but I cannot
recall any at this time.
Tony

 

[George E. Cawthon]

Wife and I share an office, main printer is a Brother
multi-function monochrome laser (which works very well)

Since she "sometimes" wants color, she has an Epson C82
(warranty replacement for a C80) which she uses weekly
(or sometimes not even every week, the reason the C80
was replaced by the C82)

Now, her C82 also has badly clogged/dried heads due to
not being used very often

After reading here, it seems that the Canon (IP5000?)
is "better" about not clogging the heads... but is ANY
inkjet going to continue to work with only being used
on a weekly basis instead of every day?

I am also thinking about just replacing her inkjet with
a "small" (ie-low cost) color laser, which is over in
message Color Laser that does not LIE about toner?

But, for this message/question... anyone have experience
with any brand/model color inkjet that does not clog if
it is not used more often than once a week? (or less!)


John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

Yes. I bought my HP 970 in December of 2000. It
has never clogged with original HP ink. (I tried
refilling this year and the second time I refilled
the color cartridge I inadvertently put black
pigmented ink in the cyan tank. Not to bore you
but even with that, I got the cartridge to print
ok after doing a 2 level cleaning with the driver
software.)

The 970 uses the 51645 or "45" black cartridge and
the C6578 or "78" color cartridge. We often go on
7-14 day trips and there have been periods of over
a month when I didn't turn the print on. Again
not once before this year (that's over 4 years of
use) did I ever have a clog and never used the
software toolbox to clean a cartridge. By the way
this printer also produces good prints are regular
paper (not photographic quality of course, but good).

I don't know what a comparable new HP printer is,
but I would heartily recommend the equivalent HP
printer (or a better one) for anyone that goes
long periods between printing something.

I also bought a Canon Pixma iP4000 earlier this
year. I just checked the cartridge and they are
still about 1/2 full. So far I have experienced
no clogs with it and it often sits unused for a
week and at least 1 time sat unused for 20 days.

Note that my workspace is normally between 65 and
74 F and only occasionally gets as low as 55 or as
high as 80 and oddly both the high and the low
occur in the early or late summer. Also, the sun
never hits my printers and neither hot nor cold
air blow directly on the printers. Humidity in
the work space normally ranges from 65 to 35
percent, usually between 50 and 65 percent.
Temperature and humidity may be factors in ink
clogging.

 

[Davy]

Don't get clogged with an Epson get a Canon ip4000/5000 serie

Not one single clog with my ip5000 in over 5 weeks - lost count now
my Epsons clogged and clogged and clogged

Epson flushes far too much ink where Canon uses it and they are fa
more economical

Not only will you save on ink, you'll save on shoes as well as yo
won't be dashing for new ink as many times

Dav

 

[zakezuke]

Not one single clog with my ip5000 in over 5 weeks - lost count now,

my Epsons clogged and clogged and clogged.

My ip3000 is pretty much perfect though I did have to do a deep clean
once. My mp760 related to the duplex unit was replaced under
warranty. Refills on ip3000 are still going strong after 2oz of ink
from MIS associates (www.inksupply.com). Measkite will come by and
claim my printhead will clog... which I imagine "could" happen but if
it does clog I saved so much in ink that I can buy a new printer
without loosing money.

 

[John Thomas Smith]

Now, her C82 also has badly clogged/dried heads due to

Simple answer is try H.P. When and if the nozzles clog you just replace
the cartridge, as with H.P. the nozzles are built into the cartridge.

I will look... do you know off-hand if the HP design is for all-in-one
cartridge, so if one color runs out I have to replace the whole thing,
or each color in a separate cartridge?

John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

 

[measekite]

Yes. I bought my HP 970 in December of 2000. It has never clogged
with original HP ink. (I tried refilling this year and the second
time I refilled the color cartridge I inadvertently put black
pigmented ink in the cyan tank. Not to bore you but even with that, I
got the cartridge to print ok after doing a 2 level cleaning with the
driver software.)

THAT IS TERRIFIC

 

[measekite]

As has been mentioned here many times in the past, inkjet clogging isn't
just a matter of brand, model or frequency of use. It seems evident that
factors such as low humidity, dust, direct sunlight and how close the
printer is to a radiator, or other heat source, can be significant. If
your office isn't 'inkjet friendly' you're likely to have problems with
any make or model.

YEAH, I AM SURE THAT MANY IN THIS NG THINK THE BEST PLACE FOR THEIR
PRINTER IS ON THE RADIATOR.