| Lorraine W wrote:
| > | >> Lorraine W wrote:
| >>> Thanks for all your input and work on this Bill. My replies and
| >>> comments
| >>> follow each of yours below.
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Lorraine W wrote:
| >>>>> Thanks for the input Bill & Philo, but before I didn't need ANYTHING
| >>>>> to
| >>>>> be
| >>>>> able to play the tapes through the computer just using an RCA to
3.5MM
| >>>>> Stereo Mini (Y cable).
| >>>>
| >>>> Right - you don't need Sound Recorder for that. (but the fact that
it
| >>>> was missing from Accessories is also somewhat puzzling, but may be
just
| >>>> coincidental)
| >>>
| >>> The sound recorder works (even though missing from the programs menu)
as
| >>> it recorded the audio test I did by creating a loop following these
| >>> instructions rec'd from the tech where the computer was manufactured.:
| >>> --------------------------------
| >>> "To Test Sound Card Line-In Jack Using Audio Loopback (RealTek):
| >>>
| >>> This technique will cause the computer to record signal emitted from
the
| >>> speaker output.
| >>>
| >>> 1. Use a double-ended mini-DIN 8mm headphone cable.
| >>> 2. Connect one end of the cable to the speaker output jack (lime)
| >>> 3. Connect the other end of the cable to the line-in jack (blue)
| >>> 4. Go to the Control Panel and start the Sound and Audio Devices
applet.
| >>> 5. In the Device Volume section, click on "Advanced"
| >>> 6. Go to the Options menu, then Properties menu item
| >>> 7. Choose "Realtek HD Audio Input" from the Mixer device list
| >>> 8. Place a checkmark in the Recording Control, CD Volume, Line Volume,
| >>> and Mic Volume items
| >>> 9. Click Ok
| >>> 10. In the Recording Control, ensure the Recording volume is high, and
| >>> that all controls are UNmuted
| >>> 11. Go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder
| >>> (or enter %systemroot%\system32\sndrec32.exe in Start>Run box)
| >>> 12. Open the RealTek Audio I/O Control (double-click on the brown
| >>> speaker icon in the task tray next to the clock, or go to the RealTek
HD
| >>> Sound Effect Manager in the Control Panel)
| >>> 13. Click on the Audio I/O tab and ensure that the Line-In (blue) and
| >>> Speaker Out (green) indicators are lit up. If they are not, you may
| >>> have a cable problem.
| >>> 14. Go to the 3D Audio Demo tab
| >>> 15. Click on the play button at the lower right
| >>> 16. In the Sound Recorder tool started in step 11, click on the record
| >>> button (red dot)
| >>> 17. If you see a stream of waveforms, your line-in jack are working
| >>> correctly and receiving signal from output. If not, there may be a
| >>> driver issue or the jack is malfunctioning."
| >>> -----------------------------------
| >>> Everything worked as it should, and I saw the wave forms.
| >>
| >> I assume the waveforms created here are due to the positive feedback
| >> between
| >> the output and the input (kinda analogous to putting a mic next to a
| >> speaker
| >>
| >
| > No the wave forms were created by playing the test sound file from the
| > Realtek Audio Manager.
|
| Ooops, completely missed that one (duh to me). Well, that makes more
sense.
|
| >>>>> I have Roxio Media Creator 10 for recording, but when I try to set
| >>>>> that
| >>>>> up for recording, there is nothing in the drop down box for "Capture
| >>>>> from" or "line in".
| >>>>
| >>>> But that might be an issue with Roxio Media Creator and not your
| >>>> computer's
| >>>> sound controller (not sure). (I don't have Roxio Media Creator, but
I
| >>>> do
| >>>> have its predecessor, EZCD (Easy CD Creator), and some other audio| >>>> apps). More below....
| >>>
| >>> I don't think so, as it wouldn't work even before I installed Roxio.
| >>
| >> Where is this "drop down box" you're talking about then? I thought it
| >> was
| >> in Roxio. Oh, you must be talking about in Realtek. It didn't work
| >> before
| >> you installed Roxio? What were you using then at that time to know
| >> that?
| >
| > The drop down box is in Roxio "LP and Tape Assistant" under Audio. (I
| > wish
| > I'd stuck with EZCD - much more user friendly)
|
| And I like the simpler, and more basic, EZCD, which is precisely why I did
| not upgrade to the newer albatrosses. And I have other apps for DVD
work.
| For example, I stuck with Nero 6. I don't want or need that newer stuff
| they've added in the later editions. "Less is More".
|
| Just as an outside hunch, have you tried any other audio apps to see if
they
| work with Line Input? (and I don't just mean the test above). (or maybe
| you said that already, and I forgot. I'm gettin old here.
|
| > What I meant by didn't work before I installed Roxio is that I couldn't
| > hear
| > any sound coming from the tape deck while being played through the line
in
| > on the computer. That's the whole problem in a nutshell. Man, I
| > transferred over 150 LP's and the first few tapes with no problem. It
was
| > also nice to just play some of my old tapes and listen through the
| > computer
| > speakers. Now I can't even to that. GRRR!!!
|
| That is bad (if I had that problem, I'd be waaaay pissed, and I'd be
| aggressively working on it like you, too)
|
| >>
| >>>>
| >>>>> The tape deck plays fine through a receiver,
| >>>>
| >>>> I assume here you are talking about a direct connection between the
| >>>> Line
| >>>> Out of the tape deck to the Auxilliary (or whatever) inputs of the
| >>>> receiver,
| >>>> without the computer being involved. So we know the issue is
either
| >>>> with Roxio or the computer's audio system.
| >>>
| >>> Yes to the first sentence. I think the issue is most likely Windows.
| >>> On
| >>> my old computer I copied tracks from about 5 or 6 cassette tapes with
no
| >>> problem. Then life got in the way, and I didn't get back to the task
| >>> for
| >>> many months. Then it wouldn't work. I know that I had issues with
the
| >>> audio control interface (for the intel motherboard with integrated
| >>> sound)
| >>> after some Microsoft updates. Intel helped me sort that out, but I
| >>> didn't
| >>> think then to check out the line in problem.
| >>
| >> OK. I don't know anything about the MS updates, as I never take them
| >> (as
| >> in thanks, but no thanks, in part for the reasons you've mentioned, and
I
| >> don't need them anyways, and I've been burned once or twice before with
| >> those "updates").
| >>
| >> As for having problems before with the audio control interface, then
| >> maybe
| >> that's where the problem still lies, possibly as a result of something
| >> going
| >> wrong with one of the updates. I just don't know. Perhaps some one
| >> else
| >> can weigh in here.
| >
| > That was on a different computer (the old one with the Intel
motherboard).
| > This one has an ASUS.
|
| OK, I'm getting some stuff confused here again. (gettin a bit too old, I
| guess)
Welcome to the club! But on the other hand, this is a very confusing
scenario.
|
| >>>> Does your computer sound work on any sounds? Say like booting up,
or
| >>>> playing any existing music files, in WMP? But I'm guessing it
does.
| >>>
| >>> All sounds (except from the line in) work just fine - video files, wma
| >>> files, mp3 files and computer sounds.
| >>
| >> I see. JUST using the Line In is the problem. Weird...
| >>
| >>>>> the line in on the motherboard
| >>>>> is OK, but the computer just doesn't want to "hear it".
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Any other suggestions?
| >>>>
| >>>> How do you know for a fact that the Line Input on the motherboard's
| >>>> sound
| >>>> controller is working ok? See, if I recall, you haven't been able
to
| >>>> get any sound on your computer while using its Line Inputs.
| >>>
| >>> See above.
| >>
| >> OK. Got it. I don't know what else to suggest (I assume you've
Googled
| >> for
| >> this specific problem a bit and found nothing that seems relevant).
| >>
| >> And I read that you also checked Device Manager and found nothing amiss
| >> there (from your later post)
|
| And also maybe you've considered that later suggestion I mentioned about
| possibly un- and re-installing the Realtek codecs (after first saving a
| system restore point).
I'm not sure about that one. I'm fairly computer literate, but I'm not sure
how I'd go about that. I'm not even sure what "codecs" are or where I would
find them.
|
| >> Well, maybe someone else has some ideas. Of course, if you can't get
it
| >> resolved, you could always consider adding a sound card and going that
| >> route, but that seems like it should be a last resort.
| >>
| >> Oh, one more thing - I assume you've played with the Line Input Volume
| >> control in real time (while the tape is playing), and nothing happens
| >> there
| >> either.
| >
| > Yup!
| >
| > Maybe I'll try Googling again with different parameters.
|
| Well, maybe enter keywords like Realtek and "Line-In", to somewhat limit
the
| search.
|
| > Thank you so much for all your effort here.
| >
| > Lorraine
|
| Wish I coulda been of more help. Good luck in your quest., Lorraine.
Well, thanks for all your suggestions and ideas. I guess my next options
are to call both Microsoft and Asus. Maybe they can help sort it out.
Thanks for the good luch wishes too - I think I'll need 'em.
--
Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>> | >>>>>> Thanks Bill. I did that, and got the shortcut in the menu, but my
| >>>>>> tape
| >>>>>> deck still isn't being "heard".
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Lorraine
| >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> | >>>>>>> I don't know how much help this will be, but I believe the sound
| >>>>>>> recorder
| >>>>>>> file is located here: \windows\system32\sndrec32.exe. You could
| >>>>>>> create
| >>>>>>> a shortcut to it there, and then move the shortcut into the
| >>>>>>> Accessories
| >>>>>>> Menu, and perhaps get Sound Recorder back again that way (assuming
| >>>>>>> the sndrec32.exe file is still on your HD, which I bet it is).
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Lorraine W wrote:
| >>>>>>>> I'm trying to transfer cassette tape files to my computer so I
can
| >>>>>>>> re-record to CDs.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> I'm running XP Pro SP2 (OEM), and have built in 7.1 channel HD
| >>>>>>>> audio
| >>>>>>>> built
| >>>>>>>> into the ASUS motherboard (custom built computer). When I go to
| >>>>>>>> start
| >>>>>>>> all
| >>>>>>>> programs> accessories> entertainment, the only thing listed is
| >>>>>>>> Windows
| >>>>>>>> Media
| >>>>>>>> Player. There is no sound recorder as there was on my old
| >>>>>>>> computer.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> I tried to install it by clicking on "Add/remove Windows
| >>>>>>>> Components",
| >>>>>>>> but
| >>>>>>>> there was no "Entertainment Category". It didn't matter whether
I
| >>>>>>>> did
| >>>>>>>> this
| >>>>>>>> from the control panel or from the Windows install screen from
the
| >>>>>>>> OEM
| >>>>>>>> disc.
| >>>>>>>> I tried reinstalling the "Accessories and Utilities" but that
| >>>>>>>> didn't
| >>>>>>>> help -
| >>>>>>>> still no sound recorder.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> I also checked the OEM disc from my old computer (which my hubby
| >>>>>>>> has) and it
| >>>>>>>> didn't have the "entertainment" category either, but the sound
| >>>>>>>> recorder
| >>>>>>>> is shown in the all programs> accessories> entertainment
category.
| >>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure it was always there, meaning I didn't install it
| >>>>>>>> later.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> I checked the line in on the back of the computer by creating a
| >>>>>>>> loop
| >>>>>>>> and it is active and working properly.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> I'm wondering if this could be a problem arising from a Windows
| >>>>>>>> Update?
| >>>>>>>> I tried my old computer and it now doesn't recognize the line in
or
| >>>>>>>> the
| >>>>>>>> tape deck. It was fine when I first did this, but I only got a
few
| >>>>>>>> of
| >>>>>>>> my tapes transferred. Not sure when it stopped working though.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Can anyone please help me to fix this?
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Lorraine
| >>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
