No sound from Line In

L

Lorraine W

I'm trying to transfer cassette tape files to my computer so I can re-record
to CDs.

I'm running XP Pro SP2 (OEM), and have built in 7.1 channel HD audio built
into the ASUS motherboard (custom built computer). When I go to start> all
programs> accessories> entertainment, the only thing listed is Windows Media
Player. There is no sound recorder as there was on my old computer.

I tried to install it by clicking on "Add/remove Windows Components", but
there was no "Entertainment Category". It didn't matter whether I did this
from the control panel or from the Windows install screen from the OEM disc.
I tried reinstalling the "Accessories and Utilities" but that didn't help -
still no sound recorder.

I also checked the OEM disc from my old computer (which my hubby has) and it
didn't have the "entertainment" category either, but the sound recorder is
shown in the all programs> accessories> entertainment category. I'm pretty
sure it was always there, meaning I didn't install it later.

I checked the line in on the back of the computer by creating a loop and it
is active and working properly.

I'm thinking this could be a problem arising from a Windows Update. I had
audio problems with my last computer after updating, but I haven't a clue as
to which update caused it.

I tried my old computer and it now doesn't recognize the line in or the tape
deck. It was fine when I first did this, but I only got a few of my tapes
transferred. Not sure when it stopped working though.

Can anyone please help me to fix this?

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
P

Paul

Lorraine said:
I'm trying to transfer cassette tape files to my computer so I can re-record
to CDs.

I'm running XP Pro SP2 (OEM), and have built in 7.1 channel HD audio built
into the ASUS motherboard (custom built computer). When I go to start> all
programs> accessories> entertainment, the only thing listed is Windows Media
Player. There is no sound recorder as there was on my old computer.

I tried to install it by clicking on "Add/remove Windows Components", but
there was no "Entertainment Category". It didn't matter whether I did this
from the control panel or from the Windows install screen from the OEM disc.
I tried reinstalling the "Accessories and Utilities" but that didn't help -
still no sound recorder.

I also checked the OEM disc from my old computer (which my hubby has) and it
didn't have the "entertainment" category either, but the sound recorder is
shown in the all programs> accessories> entertainment category. I'm pretty
sure it was always there, meaning I didn't install it later.

I checked the line in on the back of the computer by creating a loop and it
is active and working properly.

I'm thinking this could be a problem arising from a Windows Update. I had
audio problems with my last computer after updating, but I haven't a clue as
to which update caused it.

I tried my old computer and it now doesn't recognize the line in or the tape
deck. It was fine when I first did this, but I only got a few of my tapes
transferred. Not sure when it stopped working though.

Can anyone please help me to fix this?

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

For a free audio application, you can try Audacity.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Or look for sndrec32.exe on your machine.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/windows-sound-recorder.htm

Paul
 
L

Lorraine W

| Lorraine W wrote:
| > I'm trying to transfer cassette tape files to my computer so I can
re-record
| > to CDs.
| >
| > I'm running XP Pro SP2 (OEM), and have built in 7.1 channel HD audio
built
| > into the ASUS motherboard (custom built computer). When I go to start>
all
| > programs> accessories> entertainment, the only thing listed is Windows
Media
| > Player. There is no sound recorder as there was on my old computer.
| >
| > I tried to install it by clicking on "Add/remove Windows Components",
but
| > there was no "Entertainment Category". It didn't matter whether I did
this
| > from the control panel or from the Windows install screen from the OEM
disc.
| > I tried reinstalling the "Accessories and Utilities" but that didn't
help -
| > still no sound recorder.
| >
| > I also checked the OEM disc from my old computer (which my hubby has)
and it
| > didn't have the "entertainment" category either, but the sound recorder
is
| > shown in the all programs> accessories> entertainment category. I'm
pretty
| > sure it was always there, meaning I didn't install it later.
| >
| > I checked the line in on the back of the computer by creating a loop and
it
| > is active and working properly.
| >
| > I'm thinking this could be a problem arising from a Windows Update. I
had
| > audio problems with my last computer after updating, but I haven't a
clue as
| > to which update caused it.
| >
| > I tried my old computer and it now doesn't recognize the line in or the
tape
| > deck. It was fine when I first did this, but I only got a few of my
tapes
| > transferred. Not sure when it stopped working though.
| >
| > Can anyone please help me to fix this?
| >
| > Lorraine
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
| For a free audio application, you can try Audacity.
|
| http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
|
| Or look for sndrec32.exe on your machine.
|
| http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/windows-sound-recorder.htm
|
| Paul

I do have sndrec32.exe in my Windows> system32 folder (also an icon for it
in the system tray grouped with other sound apps under the Realtek Sound
Manager icon ). I'm not looking for a free audio app. I have Roxio and
Nero.
A recorder can't record what it can't hear. That's the problem. The tape
deck
should play through the line in and be transmitted to the computer speakers
but
it isn't. It stopped working on my old computer after some Microsoft
updates,
but I'm not sure when.

I just installed the latest Realtek driver for the built-in sound on the
motherboard
and it didn't fix the problem.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
B

Bill in Co.

Did you happen to try uninstalling and then reinstalling Roxio, just to see
if that action, in and of itself, might possibly resolve it?
 
D

Don Phillipson

I do have sndrec32.exe in my Windows> system32 folder (also an icon for it
in the system tray grouped with other sound apps under the Realtek Sound
Manager icon ). I'm not looking for a free audio app. I have Roxio and
Nero.
A recorder can't record what it can't hear. That's the problem. The tape
deck
should play through the line in and be transmitted to the computer speakers
but
it isn't. It stopped working on my old computer after some Microsoft
updates,
but I'm not sure when.

I just installed the latest Realtek driver for the built-in sound on the
motherboard and it didn't fix the problem.

Consider that Sound-on-Board (on motherboard) can simply fail
(and seems to fail in 5 to 10 per cenf of PCs. Do you have an
ASUS MB? The basic check for this is
1. Disable SoB in BIOS
2. Instal a PCI audio card and test input (e.g. from
cassette source) and output (audible via speakers.)
 
P

Paul

Lorraine said:
| Lorraine W wrote:
| > I'm trying to transfer cassette tape files to my computer so I can
re-record
| > to CDs.
| >
| > I'm running XP Pro SP2 (OEM), and have built in 7.1 channel HD audio
built
| > into the ASUS motherboard (custom built computer). When I go to start>
all
| > programs> accessories> entertainment, the only thing listed is Windows
Media
| > Player. There is no sound recorder as there was on my old computer.
| >
| > I tried to install it by clicking on "Add/remove Windows Components",
but
| > there was no "Entertainment Category". It didn't matter whether I did
this
| > from the control panel or from the Windows install screen from the OEM
disc.
| > I tried reinstalling the "Accessories and Utilities" but that didn't
help -
| > still no sound recorder.
| >
| > I also checked the OEM disc from my old computer (which my hubby has)
and it
| > didn't have the "entertainment" category either, but the sound recorder
is
| > shown in the all programs> accessories> entertainment category. I'm
pretty
| > sure it was always there, meaning I didn't install it later.
| >
| > I checked the line in on the back of the computer by creating a loop and
it
| > is active and working properly.
| >
| > I'm thinking this could be a problem arising from a Windows Update. I
had
| > audio problems with my last computer after updating, but I haven't a
clue as
| > to which update caused it.
| >
| > I tried my old computer and it now doesn't recognize the line in or the
tape
| > deck. It was fine when I first did this, but I only got a few of my
tapes
| > transferred. Not sure when it stopped working though.
| >
| > Can anyone please help me to fix this?
| >
| > Lorraine
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
| For a free audio application, you can try Audacity.
|
| http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
|
| Or look for sndrec32.exe on your machine.
|
| http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/windows-sound-recorder.htm
|
| Paul

I do have sndrec32.exe in my Windows> system32 folder (also an icon for it
in the system tray grouped with other sound apps under the Realtek Sound
Manager icon ). I'm not looking for a free audio app. I have Roxio and
Nero.
A recorder can't record what it can't hear. That's the problem. The tape
deck
should play through the line in and be transmitted to the computer speakers
but
it isn't. It stopped working on my old computer after some Microsoft
updates,
but I'm not sure when.

I just installed the latest Realtek driver for the built-in sound on the
motherboard
and it didn't fix the problem.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My suggestion was intended for the computer with the working Line-In port.

I don't have all the answers for sound cards or sound chips that don't work.
I can give you an example, of something which happened to me today. When I booted
the computer, I didn't get the sound after the desktop appears. I tested the
computer speakers, by plugging them to a small portable radio, and the speakers
worked. I looked in Device Manager, and all the sound entries were there.
I tried Lavalys Everest, and the particulars of the PCI sound card looked
correct. (It was identified as a CMedia CMI8738.)

I had to physically remove the PCI sound card and reseat it. And after that,
it started working. I had no software indication of a problem, but it just
didn't work.

If your motherboard features "HDaudio" or "Azalia", then the driver situation
consists of two parts. Microsoft offers a UAA driver, and then the RealTek
driver provides a hardware-specific driver on top of that. There can be issues
with UAA, that can foul things up, and there is a particular uninstall/reinstall
order to fix it. The RealTek driver has a copy of UAA included in it as well,
which may be part of the problem.

Paul
 
L

Lorraine W

| Did you happen to try uninstalling and then reinstalling Roxio, just to
see
| if that action, in and of itself, might possibly resolve it?

No I haven't. Not sure that will help, but will give it a try when I have
time.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

|
| Lorraine W wrote:
| >> Lorraine W wrote:
| >>> I'm trying to transfer cassette tape files to my computer so I can
| >>> re-record
| >>> to CDs.
| >>>
| >>> I'm running XP Pro SP2 (OEM), and have built in 7.1 channel HD audio
| >>> built
| >>> into the ASUS motherboard (custom built computer). When I go to
start>
| >>> all
| >>> programs> accessories> entertainment, the only thing listed is Windows
| >>> Media Player. There is no sound recorder as there was on my old
| >>> computer.
| >>>
| >>> I tried to install it by clicking on "Add/remove Windows Components",
| >>> but
| >>> there was no "Entertainment Category". It didn't matter whether I did
| >>> this
| >>> from the control panel or from the Windows install screen from the OEM
| >>> disc. I tried reinstalling the "Accessories and Utilities" but that
| >>> didn't help -
| >>> still no sound recorder.
| >>>
| >>> I also checked the OEM disc from my old computer (which my hubby has)
| >>> and it
| >>> didn't have the "entertainment" category either, but the sound
recorder
| >>> is
| >>> shown in the all programs> accessories> entertainment category. I'm
| >>> pretty
| >>> sure it was always there, meaning I didn't install it later.
| >>>
| >>> I checked the line in on the back of the computer by creating a loop
and
| >>> it
| >>> is active and working properly.
| >>>
| >>> I'm thinking this could be a problem arising from a Windows Update. I
| >>> had
| >>> audio problems with my last computer after updating, but I haven't a
| >>> clue as
| >>> to which update caused it.
| >>>
| >>> I tried my old computer and it now doesn't recognize the line in or
the
| >>> tape
| >>> deck. It was fine when I first did this, but I only got a few of my
| >>> tapes
| >>> transferred. Not sure when it stopped working though.
| >>>
| >>> Can anyone please help me to fix this?
| >>>
| >>> Lorraine
| >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >>
| >> For a free audio application, you can try Audacity.
| >>
| >> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
| >>
| >> Or look for sndrec32.exe on your machine.
| >>
| >> http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/windows-sound-recorder.htm
| >>
| >> Paul
| >
| > I do have sndrec32.exe in my Windows> system32 folder (also an icon for
it
| > in the system tray grouped with other sound apps under the Realtek Sound
| > Manager icon ). I'm not looking for a free audio app. I have Roxio
and
| > Nero.
| > A recorder can't record what it can't hear. That's the problem. The
tape
| > deck
| > should play through the line in and be transmitted to the computer
| > speakers
| > but it isn't. It stopped working on my old computer after some
Microsoft
| > updates, but I'm not sure when.
| >
| > I just installed the latest Realtek driver for the built-in sound on the
| > motherboard and it didn't fix the problem.
| >
| > Lorraine
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
 
L

Lorraine W

| Lorraine W wrote:
| > | Lorraine W wrote:
| > | > I'm trying to transfer cassette tape files to my computer so I can
| > re-record
| > | > to CDs.
| > | >
| > | > I'm running XP Pro SP2 (OEM), and have built in 7.1 channel HD audio
| > built
| > | > into the ASUS motherboard (custom built computer). When I go to
start>
| > all
| > | > programs> accessories> entertainment, the only thing listed is
Windows
| > Media
| > | > Player. There is no sound recorder as there was on my old computer.
| > | >
| > | > I tried to install it by clicking on "Add/remove Windows
Components",
| > but
| > | > there was no "Entertainment Category". It didn't matter whether I
did
| > this
| > | > from the control panel or from the Windows install screen from the
OEM
| > disc.
| > | > I tried reinstalling the "Accessories and Utilities" but that didn't
| > help -
| > | > still no sound recorder.
| > | >
| > | > I also checked the OEM disc from my old computer (which my hubby
has)
| > and it
| > | > didn't have the "entertainment" category either, but the sound
recorder
| > is
| > | > shown in the all programs> accessories> entertainment category. I'm
| > pretty
| > | > sure it was always there, meaning I didn't install it later.
| > | >
| > | > I checked the line in on the back of the computer by creating a loop
and
| > it
| > | > is active and working properly.
| > | >
| > | > I'm thinking this could be a problem arising from a Windows Update.
I
| > had
| > | > audio problems with my last computer after updating, but I haven't a
| > clue as
| > | > to which update caused it.
| > | >
| > | > I tried my old computer and it now doesn't recognize the line in or
the
| > tape
| > | > deck. It was fine when I first did this, but I only got a few of my
| > tapes
| > | > transferred. Not sure when it stopped working though.
| > | >
| > | > Can anyone please help me to fix this?
| > | >
| > | > Lorraine
| > | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > |
| > | For a free audio application, you can try Audacity.
| > |
| > | http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
| > |
| > | Or look for sndrec32.exe on your machine.
| > |
| > | http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/windows-sound-recorder.htm
| > |
| > | Paul
| >
| > I do have sndrec32.exe in my Windows> system32 folder (also an icon for
it
| > in the system tray grouped with other sound apps under the Realtek Sound
| > Manager icon ). I'm not looking for a free audio app. I have Roxio
and
| > Nero.
| > A recorder can't record what it can't hear. That's the problem. The
tape
| > deck
| > should play through the line in and be transmitted to the computer
speakers
| > but
| > it isn't. It stopped working on my old computer after some Microsoft
| > updates,
| > but I'm not sure when.
| >
| > I just installed the latest Realtek driver for the built-in sound on the
| > motherboard
| > and it didn't fix the problem.
| >
| > Lorraine
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >
|
| My suggestion was intended for the computer with the working Line-In port.
|
| I don't have all the answers for sound cards or sound chips that don't
work.
| I can give you an example, of something which happened to me today. When I
booted
| the computer, I didn't get the sound after the desktop appears. I tested
the
| computer speakers, by plugging them to a small portable radio, and the
speakers
| worked. I looked in Device Manager, and all the sound entries were there.
| I tried Lavalys Everest, and the particulars of the PCI sound card looked
| correct. (It was identified as a CMedia CMI8738.)
|
| I had to physically remove the PCI sound card and reseat it. And after
that,
| it started working. I had no software indication of a problem, but it just
| didn't work.
|
| If your motherboard features "HDaudio" or "Azalia", then the driver
situation
| consists of two parts. Microsoft offers a UAA driver, and then the RealTek
| driver provides a hardware-specific driver on top of that. There can be
issues
| with UAA, that can foul things up, and there is a particular
uninstall/reinstall
| order to fix it. The RealTek driver has a copy of UAA included in it as
well,
| which may be part of the problem.
|
| Paul
|

Actually Paul, I can't get the sound of the tape deck through either
computer. The old one, which my husband has, did work, but quit sometime
after Microsoft updates. I couldn't begin to tell you which one, but I've
searched the Microsoft KB and couldn't find anything there.

The line in is working fine. I used this method to test it (copied from
instructions from the builder of the computer)

"To Test Sound Card Line-In Jack Using Audio Loopback (RealTek):

This technique will cause the computer to record signal emitted from the
speaker output.

1. Use a double-ended mini-DIN 8mm headphone cable.
2. Connect one end of the cable to the speaker output jack (lime)
3. Connect the other end of the cable to the line-in jack (blue)
4. Go to the Control Panel and start the Sound and Audio Devices applet.
5. In the Device Volume section, click on "Advanced"
6. Go to the Options menu, then Properties menu item
7. Choose "Realtek HD Audio Input" from the Mixer device list
8. Place a checkmark in the Recording Control, CD Volume, Line Volume,
and Mic Volume items
9. Click Ok
10. In the Recording Control, ensure the Recording volume is high, and
that all controls are UNmuted
11. Go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder
(or enter %systemroot%\system32\sndrec32.exe in Start>Run box)
12. Open the RealTek Audio I/O Control (double-click on the brown
speaker icon in the task tray next to the clock, or go to the RealTek HD
Sound Effect Manager in the Control Panel)
13. Click on the Audio I/O tab and ensure that the Line-In (blue) and
Speaker Out (green) indicators are lit up. If they are not, you may
have a cable problem.
14. Go to the 3D Audio Demo tab
15. Click on the play button at the lower right
16. In the Sound Recorder tool started in step 11, click on the record
button (red dot)
17. If you see a stream of waveforms, your line-in jack are working
correctly and receiving signal from output. If not, there may be a
driver issue or the jack is malfunctioning."
-----------------------------------
The line in is working just fine.

So I'm thinking you are right about the conflicting drivers. Unfortunately
I don't happen to have a spare sound card just lying around and can't afford
to go out and buy one.

I just searched the KB again for UAA driver and found an article here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888111/, but this is waaayy over my head.
Do you have any idea how I can uninstall the UAA driver, of if I even
should? I don't have an update with that number listed in the add/remove
programs.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
P

Paul

Lorraine said:
Actually Paul, I can't get the sound of the tape deck through either
computer. The old one, which my husband has, did work, but quit sometime
after Microsoft updates. I couldn't begin to tell you which one, but I've
searched the Microsoft KB and couldn't find anything there.

The line in is working fine. I used this method to test it (copied from
instructions from the builder of the computer)

"To Test Sound Card Line-In Jack Using Audio Loopback (RealTek):

This technique will cause the computer to record signal emitted from the
speaker output.

1. Use a double-ended mini-DIN 8mm headphone cable.
2. Connect one end of the cable to the speaker output jack (lime)
3. Connect the other end of the cable to the line-in jack (blue)
4. Go to the Control Panel and start the Sound and Audio Devices applet.
5. In the Device Volume section, click on "Advanced"
6. Go to the Options menu, then Properties menu item
7. Choose "Realtek HD Audio Input" from the Mixer device list
8. Place a checkmark in the Recording Control, CD Volume, Line Volume,
and Mic Volume items
9. Click Ok
10. In the Recording Control, ensure the Recording volume is high, and
that all controls are UNmuted
11. Go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder
(or enter %systemroot%\system32\sndrec32.exe in Start>Run box)
12. Open the RealTek Audio I/O Control (double-click on the brown
speaker icon in the task tray next to the clock, or go to the RealTek HD
Sound Effect Manager in the Control Panel)
13. Click on the Audio I/O tab and ensure that the Line-In (blue) and
Speaker Out (green) indicators are lit up. If they are not, you may
have a cable problem.
14. Go to the 3D Audio Demo tab
15. Click on the play button at the lower right
16. In the Sound Recorder tool started in step 11, click on the record
button (red dot)
17. If you see a stream of waveforms, your line-in jack are working
correctly and receiving signal from output. If not, there may be a
driver issue or the jack is malfunctioning."
-----------------------------------
The line in is working just fine.

So I'm thinking you are right about the conflicting drivers. Unfortunately
I don't happen to have a spare sound card just lying around and can't afford
to go out and buy one.

I just searched the KB again for UAA driver and found an article here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888111/, but this is waaayy over my head.
Do you have any idea how I can uninstall the UAA driver, of if I even
should? I don't have an update with that number listed in the add/remove
programs.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

For RealTek Hdaudio onboard sound, try this posting.

http://groups.google.ca/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/77024692fb903eb4?dmode=source

I don't understand the end of your posting. Have you concluded
that Line-In is working, and yet you cannot record ? Could you
please restate what is working and what is not working ?

Paul
 
L

Lorraine W

| Lorraine W wrote:
|
| >
| > Actually Paul, I can't get the sound of the tape deck through either
| > computer. The old one, which my husband has, did work, but quit
sometime
| > after Microsoft updates. I couldn't begin to tell you which one, but
I've
| > searched the Microsoft KB and couldn't find anything there.
| >
| > The line in is working fine. I used this method to test it (copied from
| > instructions from the builder of the computer)
| >
| > "To Test Sound Card Line-In Jack Using Audio Loopback (RealTek):
| >
| > This technique will cause the computer to record signal emitted from the
| > speaker output.
| >
| > 1. Use a double-ended mini-DIN 8mm headphone cable.
| > 2. Connect one end of the cable to the speaker output jack (lime)
| > 3. Connect the other end of the cable to the line-in jack (blue)
| > 4. Go to the Control Panel and start the Sound and Audio Devices applet.
| > 5. In the Device Volume section, click on "Advanced"
| > 6. Go to the Options menu, then Properties menu item
| > 7. Choose "Realtek HD Audio Input" from the Mixer device list
| > 8. Place a checkmark in the Recording Control, CD Volume, Line Volume,
| > and Mic Volume items
| > 9. Click Ok
| > 10. In the Recording Control, ensure the Recording volume is high, and
| > that all controls are UNmuted
| > 11. Go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder
| > (or enter %systemroot%\system32\sndrec32.exe in Start>Run box)
| > 12. Open the RealTek Audio I/O Control (double-click on the brown
| > speaker icon in the task tray next to the clock, or go to the RealTek HD
| > Sound Effect Manager in the Control Panel)
| > 13. Click on the Audio I/O tab and ensure that the Line-In (blue) and
| > Speaker Out (green) indicators are lit up. If they are not, you may
| > have a cable problem.
| > 14. Go to the 3D Audio Demo tab
| > 15. Click on the play button at the lower right
| > 16. In the Sound Recorder tool started in step 11, click on the record
| > button (red dot)
| > 17. If you see a stream of waveforms, your line-in jack are working
| > correctly and receiving signal from output. If not, there may be a
| > driver issue or the jack is malfunctioning."
| > -----------------------------------
| > The line in is working just fine.
| >
| > So I'm thinking you are right about the conflicting drivers.
Unfortunately
| > I don't happen to have a spare sound card just lying around and can't
afford
| > to go out and buy one.
| >
| > I just searched the KB again for UAA driver and found an article here:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888111/, but this is waaayy over my
head.
| > Do you have any idea how I can uninstall the UAA driver, of if I even
| > should? I don't have an update with that number listed in the
add/remove
| > programs.
| >
| > Lorraine
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >
|
| For RealTek Hdaudio onboard sound, try this posting.
|
|
http://groups.google.ca/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/77024692fb903eb4?dmode=source
|
| I don't understand the end of your posting. Have you concluded
| that Line-In is working, and yet you cannot record ? Could you
| please restate what is working and what is not working ?
|
| Paul


As I said just below the test instructions - the line in tests OK. It hears
and records the sound coming from the speaker jack. Although I can't hear
it (because the sound is going directly from the speaker jack to the line
in) but I can see the sound waves on the sound recorder.

The problem is that I can't hear any sound coming from the speakers when the
tape deck is being played through the line in on the computer. That's the
whole problem in a nutshell. I transferred (recorded) over 150 LP's and the
first few tapes using Roxio EZCD 7 with no problem. Then life got in the
way, and I didn't get back to the task for many months. Then it wouldn't
work. This was on my old computer (which my hubby now has) with an Intel MB
with built in sound. I still think that it has something to do with some
Microsoft updates.

I should be able to play the tape deck through the computer speakers just
using an RCA to 3.5MM Stereo Mini (Y) cable as I used to.

My new computer (still with XP SP2) has exactly the same problem. This is
an ASUS MB with built-in sound. All sounds (except from the line in) work
just fine - video files, wma files, mp3 files and computer sounds. Of
course, I didn't think to try the tape deck before installing all the MS
updates.

I don't know what else to tell you. I think I'll try the instructions in
the post you mention (for which I thank you very much) and disable the UAA
driver and see what happens. It'll be a while before I can get to it
though. Life calls!

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
B

Bill in Co.

Lorraine said:
As I said just below the test instructions - the line in tests OK. It
hears
and records the sound coming from the speaker jack. Although I can't hear
it (because the sound is going directly from the speaker jack to the line
in) but I can see the sound waves on the sound recorder.

The problem is that I can't hear any sound coming from the speakers when
the
tape deck is being played through the line in on the computer.

AND you can't record them either, right? (these are two separate issues!)
IOW, it is possible to record them using Line-In, but not be able to hear
them while it is recording, until after the recording is done, and you then
elect to play them? IOW, are the music files actually being created on the
HD?
That's the
whole problem in a nutshell. I transferred (recorded) over 150 LP's and
the
first few tapes using Roxio EZCD 7 with no problem. Then life got in the
way, and I didn't get back to the task for many months. Then it wouldn't
work. This was on my old computer (which my hubby now has) with an Intel
MB with built in sound. I still think that it has something to do with
some
Microsoft updates.

Could be, but you haven't found anything mentioned about that on the
Internet about that, I presume. Well, you could also consider uninstalling
the MS "updates" one by one, starting with the latest and working backwards,
but what a pain. I don't know how many you have taken in at this point.
..
I should be able to play the tape deck through the computer speakers just
using an RCA to 3.5MM Stereo Mini (Y) cable as I used to.

My new computer (still with XP SP2) has exactly the same problem. This is
an ASUS MB with built-in sound. All sounds (except from the line in) work
just fine - video files, wma files, mp3 files and computer sounds. Of
course, I didn't think to try the tape deck before installing all the MS
updates.

I don't know what else to tell you. I think I'll try the instructions in
the post you mention (for which I thank you very much) and disable the UAA
driver and see what happens. It'll be a while before I can get to it
though. Life calls!

If you disable the UAA driver will it even work? I thought it was
required. (It's been awhile since I read up on that though). But the UAA
being involved here sounds like another distinct possibility.
 
L

Lorraine W

| Lorraine W wrote:
| >> Lorraine W wrote:
| >>
| >>>
| >>> Actually Paul, I can't get the sound of the tape deck through either
| >>> computer. The old one, which my husband has, did work, but quit
| >>> sometime
| >>> after Microsoft updates. I couldn't begin to tell you which one, but
| >>> I've
| >>> searched the Microsoft KB and couldn't find anything there.
| >>>
| >>> The line in is working fine. I used this method to test it (copied
from
| >>> instructions from the builder of the computer)
| >>>
| >>> "To Test Sound Card Line-In Jack Using Audio Loopback (RealTek):
| >>>
| >>> This technique will cause the computer to record signal emitted from
the
| >>> speaker output.
| >>>
| >>> 1. Use a double-ended mini-DIN 8mm headphone cable.
| >>> 2. Connect one end of the cable to the speaker output jack (lime)
| >>> 3. Connect the other end of the cable to the line-in jack (blue)
| >>> 4. Go to the Control Panel and start the Sound and Audio Devices
applet.
| >>> 5. In the Device Volume section, click on "Advanced"
| >>> 6. Go to the Options menu, then Properties menu item
| >>> 7. Choose "Realtek HD Audio Input" from the Mixer device list
| >>> 8. Place a checkmark in the Recording Control, CD Volume, Line Volume,
| >>> and Mic Volume items
| >>> 9. Click Ok
| >>> 10. In the Recording Control, ensure the Recording volume is high, and
| >>> that all controls are UNmuted
| >>> 11. Go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder
| >>> (or enter %systemroot%\system32\sndrec32.exe in Start>Run box)
| >>> 12. Open the RealTek Audio I/O Control (double-click on the brown
| >>> speaker icon in the task tray next to the clock, or go to the RealTek
HD
| >>> Sound Effect Manager in the Control Panel)
| >>> 13. Click on the Audio I/O tab and ensure that the Line-In (blue) and
| >>> Speaker Out (green) indicators are lit up. If they are not, you may
| >>> have a cable problem.
| >>> 14. Go to the 3D Audio Demo tab
| >>> 15. Click on the play button at the lower right
| >>> 16. In the Sound Recorder tool started in step 11, click on the record
| >>> button (red dot)
| >>> 17. If you see a stream of waveforms, your line-in jack are working
| >>> correctly and receiving signal from output. If not, there may be a
| >>> driver issue or the jack is malfunctioning."
| >>> -----------------------------------
| >>> The line in is working just fine.
| >>>
| >>> So I'm thinking you are right about the conflicting drivers.
| >>> Unfortunately
| >>> I don't happen to have a spare sound card just lying around and can't
| >>> afford
| >>> to go out and buy one.
| >>>
| >>> I just searched the KB again for UAA driver and found an article here:
| >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888111/, but this is waaayy over my
| >>> head.
| >>> Do you have any idea how I can uninstall the UAA driver, of if I even
| >>> should? I don't have an update with that number listed in the
| >>> add/remove
| >>> programs.
| >>>
| >>> Lorraine
| >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >>>
| >>
| >> For RealTek Hdaudio onboard sound, try this posting.
| >>
| >>
| >
http://groups.google.ca/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/77024692fb903eb4?dmode=source
| >>
| >> I don't understand the end of your posting. Have you concluded
| >> that Line-In is working, and yet you cannot record ? Could you
| >> please restate what is working and what is not working ?
| >>
| >> Paul
| >
| >
| > As I said just below the test instructions - the line in tests OK. It
| > hears
| > and records the sound coming from the speaker jack. Although I can't
hear
| > it (because the sound is going directly from the speaker jack to the
line
| > in) but I can see the sound waves on the sound recorder.
| >
| > The problem is that I can't hear any sound coming from the speakers when
| > the
| > tape deck is being played through the line in on the computer.
|
| AND you can't record them either, right? (these are two separate
issues!)
| IOW, it is possible to record them using Line-In, but not be able to hear
| them while it is recording, until after the recording is done, and you
then
| elect to play them? IOW, are the music files actually being created on
the
| HD?


I don't think so. I can't figure out how to record them as Roxio doesn't
recognize any source for capture or input. Even when I recorded the sample
audio with sound recorder, if I went to save it - it said "not enough
memory" (I have 3GB).

| > That's the
| > whole problem in a nutshell. I transferred (recorded) over 150 LP's and
| > the
| > first few tapes using Roxio EZCD 7 with no problem. Then life got in the
| > way, and I didn't get back to the task for many months. Then it
wouldn't
| > work. This was on my old computer (which my hubby now has) with an
Intel
| > MB with built in sound. I still think that it has something to do with
| > some
| > Microsoft updates.
|
| Could be, but you haven't found anything mentioned about that on the
| Internet about that, I presume. Well, you could also consider
uninstalling
| the MS "updates" one by one, starting with the latest and working
backwards,
| but what a pain. I don't know how many you have taken in at this point.

No way am I prepared to do that. At the rate MS was putting out updates, it
would probably be near 50 or more.

| > I should be able to play the tape deck through the computer speakers
just
| > using an RCA to 3.5MM Stereo Mini (Y) cable as I used to.
| >
| > My new computer (still with XP SP2) has exactly the same problem. This
is
| > an ASUS MB with built-in sound. All sounds (except from the line in)
work
| > just fine - video files, wma files, mp3 files and computer sounds. Of
| > course, I didn't think to try the tape deck before installing all the MS
| > updates.
| >
| > I don't know what else to tell you. I think I'll try the instructions
in
| > the post you mention (for which I thank you very much) and disable the
UAA
| > driver and see what happens. It'll be a while before I can get to it
| > though. Life calls!
|
| If you disable the UAA driver will it even work? I thought it was
| required. (It's been awhile since I read up on that though). But the
UAA
| being involved here sounds like another distinct possibility.

It seems like it should. Did you check out the link above in Paul's post?

Anyway, thanks Paul & Bill. I'm going to put this away for now. I've spent
far too much time here and not accomplished anything else.

My sewing machine and dirty house and neglected husband (actually - he
should be listed first <g>) are calling loudly for attention.
When I get life out of the way again for a while, I'll call ASUS or try the
actions outlined in Paul's link.

Thanks again for all your help guys.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
P

Paul

Lorraine said:
Anyway, thanks Paul & Bill. I'm going to put this away for now. I've spent
far too much time here and not accomplished anything else.

My sewing machine and dirty house and neglected husband (actually - he
should be listed first <g>) are calling loudly for attention.
When I get life out of the way again for a while, I'll call ASUS or try the
actions outlined in Paul's link.

Thanks again for all your help guys.

Lorraine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Based on your re-statement, I'd say you have two issues you want help with.

1) Being able to record sound from Line-In.
Your test (seeing waves in Sound Recorder), indicates that is working.

2) The ability to loop an input to an output jack, is a "playthru" kind of
feature. I took a look in the Mixer control panel for my sound card,
and there are two "Line-In" mute buttons. If I select the "record" section
of the interface, clicking the "Line-In" makes it the current source
to be recorded (so you can use Windows Sound Recorder). If you go to
the "play" section of the interface, there is a "Line-In" button there.
That allows "playthru" of the signal coming in on "Line-In".

----- Mic_In -----\__________ Record side of chip
--+-- Line_In ----/
|
+-------------------------- Line_In (playthru)---\______ Green Line-Out
other sources -------/

There are two kinds of mixer controls. There is a Windows mixer control
panel, and there can be a ReakTek one. The sense and function of the
controls could be different between those. In my tests here, with my CMedia
PCI sound card, the functionality was in my CMedia mixer control panel.
And it works fine - I can control what I record, or what is used for playthru,
independently.

*******
The link I posted, is for the purpose of repairing the relationship between
UAA and the RealTek driver. It is for people who have completely lost their
ability to use the RealTek onboard sound. In your case, it seems you have
functionality present, so fiddling with the drivers likely won't change that.

HTH,
Paul

(now listening to the radio, through his computer speakers :) )
 
L

Lorraine W

Paul & Bill

Well - problem solved (at least partially-Roxio is still a problem) and I'm
sitting here with egg running off my chin.

This morning I went into the Realtek HD Audio Manager again and to my
chagrin, I realized I had not seen the < > at the right side of the playback
section. (They really aren't very obvious - honestly.) I clicked on > and
sure enough, there were more pages of controls. Right there before my very
eyes was the line in volume indicator at the bottom of the graphic (meaning
no volume of course). Boy, talk about humiliated!!

I was also then able to record from the tape deck using Roxio, (even though
it doesn't recognize the line in as the source) although I need to play with
the volume controls some more as the recording was extremely loud, but
that's easily done. The fact that there are two mixer controls got me.
From now on I will do these kinds of thing in the morning when I'm fresh.
Getting too old to remember all this stuff. I'm going to follow your idea
Bill of going back to my previous version of Roxio. Newer and bigger is not
always better.

At any rate, I thank you both profusely for all your help. I hope you'll
forgive an old senior for her poor eyesight and memory.

Lorraine
Who is happily listening to her wonderful old tapes through her computer
speakers ;>)))

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




| Lorraine W wrote:
|
| >
| > Anyway, thanks Paul & Bill. I'm going to put this away for now. I've
spent
| > far too much time here and not accomplished anything else.
| >
| > My sewing machine and dirty house and neglected husband (actually - he
| > should be listed first <g>) are calling loudly for attention.
| > When I get life out of the way again for a while, I'll call ASUS or try
the
| > actions outlined in Paul's link.
| >
| > Thanks again for all your help guys.
| >
| > Lorraine
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >
|
| Based on your re-statement, I'd say you have two issues you want help
with.
|
| 1) Being able to record sound from Line-In.
| Your test (seeing waves in Sound Recorder), indicates that is working.
|
| 2) The ability to loop an input to an output jack, is a "playthru" kind of
| feature. I took a look in the Mixer control panel for my sound card,
| and there are two "Line-In" mute buttons. If I select the "record"
section
| of the interface, clicking the "Line-In" makes it the current source
| to be recorded (so you can use Windows Sound Recorder). If you go to
| the "play" section of the interface, there is a "Line-In" button there.
| That allows "playthru" of the signal coming in on "Line-In".
|
| ----- Mic_In -----\__________ Record side of chip
| --+-- Line_In ----/
| |
| +-------------------------- Line_In (playthru)---\______ Green
Line-Out
| other sources -------/
|
| There are two kinds of mixer controls. There is a Windows mixer control
| panel, and there can be a ReakTek one. The sense and function of the
| controls could be different between those. In my tests here, with my
CMedia
| PCI sound card, the functionality was in my CMedia mixer control panel.
| And it works fine - I can control what I record, or what is used for
playthru,
| independently.
|
| *******
| The link I posted, is for the purpose of repairing the relationship
between
| UAA and the RealTek driver. It is for people who have completely lost
their
| ability to use the RealTek onboard sound. In your case, it seems you have
| functionality present, so fiddling with the drivers likely won't change
that.
|
| HTH,
| Paul
|
| (now listening to the radio, through his computer speakers :) )
|
|
|
|
|
 
B

Bill in Co.

Lorraine said:
Paul & Bill

Well - problem solved (at least partially-Roxio is still a problem) and
I'm
sitting here with egg running off my chin.

This morning I went into the Realtek HD Audio Manager again and to my
chagrin, I realized I had not seen the < > at the right side of the
playback
section. (They really aren't very obvious - honestly.) I clicked on >
and
sure enough, there were more pages of controls. Right there before my
very
eyes was the line in volume indicator at the bottom of the graphic
(meaning
no volume of course). Boy, talk about humiliated!!
:)

I was also then able to record from the tape deck using Roxio, (even
though
it doesn't recognize the line in as the source) although I need to play
with
the volume controls some more as the recording was extremely loud, but
that's easily done. The fact that there are two mixer controls got me.
From now on I will do these kinds of thing in the morning when I'm fresh.
Getting too old to remember all this stuff. I'm going to follow your idea
Bill of going back to my previous version of Roxio. Newer and bigger is
not
always better.

I agree. :) (boy, do I agree, but at least I came over to XP from
98SE)
At any rate, I thank you both profusely for all your help. I hope you'll
forgive an old senior for her poor eyesight and memory.

For sure. You're a senior too, eh? AARP land. :)
Lorraine
Who is happily listening to her wonderful old tapes through her
computer
speakers ;>)))

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good to hear this, Lorraine. Thanks for the update.
Bill
 

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