No sense

[Nime]

Hi

I got 2 GB memory and currently using 800MB approx.
However XP doesn't response to any new thing, I mean
no popup menu appears, no new application runs, nothing...
First I have to close a few windows, free some memory then
XP looks ok.

There is no memory problem, got enough physical&virtual memory
swap disk size, etc.

What's the cause and the solution, if any?


~ea

 

[Rock]

Hi

I got 2 GB memory and currently using 800MB approx.
However XP doesn't response to any new thing, I mean
no popup menu appears, no new application runs, nothing...
First I have to close a few windows, free some memory then
XP looks ok.

There is no memory problem, got enough physical&virtual memory
swap disk size, etc.

What's the cause and the solution, if any?

Not enough info. What is the history of this problem? New, old, sudden
onset? What is the malware status and how do you check that? What is the
computer and hardware?

 

[Nime]

These are no matter... At home, at the office, everywhere, on every XP...

If you open lots of windows at the same time, for example, Windows
never opens a new window, ie Save As dialog box, context menu,
new folder window, nothing... I bought a new memory but couldnt
solve the problem....

 

[Gordon]

These are no matter...

Oh yes they do.....very much so.

At home, at the office, everywhere, on every XP...

On EVERY computer you use with XP on? Or are we perhaps talking about ONE
laptop in different locations?
You shoyuld still answer the questions as in a) when did this start? b) Did
anything change on the machine when this started? and c) Are you SURE your
machine is virus and spyware free?

 

[Nime]

I love to open lots of thing at the same time : )

I may say I'm an experienced Windows user for years.
It looks like a Windows behavior, when you open so many windows
XP has a limit and cannot display a new one...

When I surf with IE, open tons of site at once. At the end
I cannot save the graphics from the web because XP
cannot show Save as dialog box.

Now I closed a window, to write this post. 2 minutes later
I'll close another one to run CuteFtp... This is a virus free,
brand new one and clean machine, at my office.

I'm trying Vista at home... Same thing there. Strange but true.
You know Vista got Defender. I already installed antivirus utility.

I usually change the hardware. So it's not related any hardware
or it's drive, I don't think so.

An extreme example but looks like my situation, a YouTube video,
A Mac user opens countless of windows:

 

[Gordon]

I love to open lots of thing at the same time : )

I may say I'm an experienced Windows user for years.
It looks like a Windows behavior, when you open so many windows
XP has a limit and cannot display a new one...

When I surf with IE, open tons of site at once. At the end
I cannot save the graphics from the web because XP
cannot show Save as dialog box.

Now I closed a window, to write this post. 2 minutes later
I'll close another one to run CuteFtp... This is a virus free,
brand new one and clean machine, at my office.

Try running the Process Monitor and see how much CPU you are using - if the
CPU is 100% you can have 100 Terraflops of memory but it won't do you any
good.... I suggest you actually reduce some of these open windows - after
all, how many can you look at at anyone time? ONE!

 

[Nime]

Actually I don't open toooo many windows. Here is my screenshot (not
English).
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/1193/cpuau3.jpg

As you see 900 MB of 2 GB used but Windows got a problem here : (

 

[Gordon]

Actually I don't open toooo many windows. Here is my screenshot (not
English).
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/1193/cpuau3.jpg

As you see 900 MB of 2 GB used but Windows got a problem here : (

No it's not Windows per se - it's the resources of your system! Have you
looked at the process monitor as I suggested? As I said - you can have 100
TERAFLOPS of memory free but if your processor can't cope with all those
open processes it won't do you a bit of good!
And are all those little icons in the blue square at the bottom everything
that runs at startup? Do you NEED all those startup items? They take up
machine resources as well.

basically you are trying to run far too many processes for the TOTAL
resources of your machine (not just RAM) to cope with. If as you say this
happens with EVERY machine you use then it's your method of operating that
is causing it, not Windows.

 

[Nime]

These are not startup but quick launch items...

My cpu is 2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo. I said it's no matter,
AMD 2000, 64, X2, Celeron... Windows does that always.
A kind of limit.

 

[Gordon]

These are not startup but quick launch items...

My cpu is 2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo. I said it's no matter,
AMD 2000, 64, X2, Celeron... Windows does that always.
A kind of limit.

I appreciate that English possibly isn't your first language - the problem
is YOU! YOU are causing all these computers to do this thing by trying to
have TOO MANY WINDOWS open!

 

[LVTravel]

What Gordon is trying to tell you is that YES, Windows XP has limits. It
will only open so many windows at a time. This was discussed in this or
another NG some time back. IIRC the total number of windows open and
minimized was about 55. This was tried on a system with plenty of memory
and hard drive space and an unlimited sized virtual memory. Other programs
started at computer startup changed this final number of manually opened
windows. It all deals with system resources that can't be changed by the
computer's owner.

 

[Guest]

Gordo -- "teraflops" is a measure of processor speed (1 trillion
floating-point operations per second) ... but we know what you meant.

:

<snip>

As I said - you can have 100

TERAFLOPS of memory free but if your processor can't cope with all those
open processes it won't do you a bit of good!

<snip>

 

[Gordon]

Gordo -- "teraflops" is a measure of processor speed (1 trillion
floating-point operations per second) ... but we know what you meant.

I've had a hard day......

 

[Rock]

These are no matter... At home, at the office, everywhere, on every XP...

If you open lots of windows at the same time, for example, Windows
never opens a new window, ie Save As dialog box, context menu,
new folder window, nothing... I bought a new memory but couldnt
solve the problem....

"Rock" haber iletisinde sunlari

There is a limit. It could be a heaps issue. See this article.

http://blogs.msdn.com/tonyschr/archive/2005/05/25/desktop-heap-limitations.aspx

PRB: User32.dll or Kernel32.dll fails to initialize
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184802/

Look at the Cause 2 section talking about desktop heap.

 

[Nime]

Exactly my case. Thanks a lot! I hope it works...

 

[Nime]

Thanks all, Rock discovered the problem... Changing the registry can solve
the problem.

 

[Rock]

Exactly my case. Thanks a lot! I hope it works...

"Rock" haber iletisinde sunlari
yazdi:[email protected]...

Good luck, post back with the outcome if you can.