No host scsi found

[jimt]

I have an HP 5P scanner that is connected to my computer with an Adaptec
3940 SCSI. It was working as advertised under W2K. I just installed
Windows XP. XP sees the scanner and it will scan with Windows software.
When I try to use the latest scanning software from HP it fails. When I go
to Start/Settings/Control Panel/HP Scanjet Scanners and double click, under
the SCSI tab it says "No host SCSI adapters found". Any ideas on how to
get this soft ware to find the proper SCSI card? Thanks, Jim

 

[degrub]

Try loading the lastest ASPI layer, run ASPICHK (sp?), to verify it is
installed ok. You can get the aspi layer from adaptec.

Frank

 

[jimt]

Frank, I loaded the latest ASPI layer, verified it is installed and have the
same problem. Thanks for the suggestion, Jim

 

[jimt]

I have yet to activate XP. Could non-activation cause this behavior?
Thanks, Jim

 

[CSM1]

Without Activation, Microsoft will not update XP. You need to have at a
minimum, Service Pack 1 installed.

 

[Bill Schnakenberg]

I have an HP 5P scanner that is connected to my computer with an Adaptec
3940 SCSI. It was working as advertised under W2K. I just installed
Windows XP. XP sees the scanner and it will scan with Windows software.
When I try to use the latest scanning software from HP it fails. When I go
to Start/Settings/Control Panel/HP Scanjet Scanners and double click, under
the SCSI tab it says "No host SCSI adapters found". Any ideas on how to
get this soft ware to find the proper SCSI card? Thanks, Jim

I had the HP5p scanner using DeskScan II v 2.9, and the Adaptec 2930
SCSI card on my Win98 machine.
HP did not have an upgrade for their software for Windows XP. One of the
reasons why I was hesitant to upgrade to XP was that my HP5p would not
work (according to the HP site) and I would have to buy a new scanner. I
decided to give it a try anyway.
When I bought a new XP computer, I installed the 2930 SCSI card in my
new XP machine and hooked it up to my HP 5p. When I started up the
computer, Windows XP found it as new hardware and loaded its own drivers
for the card and scanner.
The scanner works with any application that supports Twain, or from the
DeskScan icon on the desktop, just as well as on the Win98 machine.
The DeskScan II v 2.9 opens and I can scan into the application I
launched it from, or if launched from the desktop icon, into any folder
I choose.
The green button on the front of the scanner does not work under XP, but
I rarely used it anyway.
When I double click the 'HP ScanJet scanners' in Control panel, under
the SCSI tab, the SCSI Card box is empty.
Whenever I reboot this machine, I get a line in the bootup screen that
says: "SCSI Bios not installed"
Neither of these 'faults' affect the scanner operation.

 

[Wayne Fulton]

When I bought a new XP computer, I installed the 2930 SCSI card in my
new XP machine and hooked it up to my HP 5p. When I started up the
computer, Windows XP found it as new hardware and loaded its own drivers
for the card and scanner.

Bill, this is because the HP 5P is supported by the XP WIA drivers,
typically for older scanners, see list at
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stillimage/XP_WIAdrvs.mspx

This is of course not true of many scanners, but HP is well represented.
And WIA probably wont operate the buttons, or in many cases, not the ADF
either. You must have also installed Deskscan, www.hp.com has Deskscan 2.9
for 5P for XP (yet it also says 5P is not supported for XP, which must be
about the packaged SCSI card). If both drivers are installed, your twain
programs should offer the choice in Deskscan and WIA.

Whenever I reboot this machine, I get a line in the bootup screen that
says: "SCSI Bios not installed"

This is very normal, it just means that the SCSI system found no bootable
media, like a SCSI disk or a bootable CD disk in a SCSI CD drive. I have a
SCSI CD drive, and it says this UNLESS the XP CD disk is in place (XP is on
a bootable CD).

 

[jimt]

When I try to scan something using Deskscan II, I receive a box saying there
is something wrong with the scanner. The software opens OK but I can't scan
anything with it. It works OK if I use the native Windows XP scanning
software so I know the operating system/hardware connections are OK. For
some reason, the Deskscan software does not recognize there is a SCSI. I
have updated the ASPI with no change. I'm not concerned with the green
start button on the scanner. I just want to use the Deskscan software. Any
other suggestions? Thanks, Jim

 

[Wayne Fulton]

When I try to scan something using Deskscan II, I receive a box saying there
is something wrong with the scanner. The software opens OK but I can't scan
anything with it. It works OK if I use the native Windows XP scanning
software so I know the operating system/hardware connections are OK. For
some reason, the Deskscan software does not recognize there is a SCSI. I
have updated the ASPI with no change. I'm not concerned with the green
start button on the scanner. I just want to use the Deskscan software. Any
other suggestions? Thanks, Jim

My guess is to again verify ASPI is installed. The ASPI download package from
Adaptec includes the test utility CHKASPI.EXE which will tell you what you
have. Just click it to run it. There are four components and CHKASPI will
immediately verify all.

XP doesnt include ASPI, and WIA doesnt use or need ASPI, but Deskscan no
doubt does. APSI is how older SCSI scanner drivers communicate with the SCSI
driver. Your message is saying the scanner driver cannot communicate with
the scsi driver, so the problem certainly would seem to be in that area.

 

[jimt]

I have run CHKASPI.EXE and here are the readings.
ASPI32.SYS v4.71.2
WOWPOST.EXE v4.5.7(1008)
WINASPI.DLL v4.5.7(1008)
WNASPI32.DLL v4.7.1.2

The note at the bottom says "SDPI is properly installed and fully
operational" Do these readings seem correct/normal? Thanks, Jim

 

[Wayne Fulton]

I have run CHKASPI.EXE and here are the readings.
ASPI32.SYS v4.71.2
WOWPOST.EXE v4.5.7(1008)
WINASPI.DLL v4.5.7(1008)
WNASPI32.DLL v4.7.1.2

The note at the bottom says "SDPI is properly installed and fully
operational" Do these readings seem correct/normal? Thanks, Jim

Probably OK, but seems odd, not sure. Microsoft seems to say at least
version 4.57 for XP, and you have that, but I doubt your dates are matched.
HP DeskScan could have installed an older version, whatever was current back
then (I dont know specifically - some do, but many dont). ASPI used to come
with Win9x, but not with NT, 2000, or XP.

I have not installed the newest 4.71.2, but my 4.71.1 says:

ASPI32.SYS v4.71.1
WOWPOST.EXE v4.6(1021)
WINASPI.DLL v4.6(1021)
WNASPI32.DLL v4.71.1 All four files dated Nov 2, 2001 (for 4.71.1)

So your 4.5.7 seems puzzling to me, and while I dont actually know 4.71.2
isnt supposed to be that way, I am rather skeptical? A reinstall try couldnt
hurt. The disk locations of these four files on my XP system are:

\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ASPI32.SYS
\WINDOWS\system\WOWPOST.EXE
\WINDOWS\system\WINASPI.DLL
\WINDOWS\system\WINASPI.DLL

 

[Wayne Fulton]

Sorry, my locations should have said: (last one was wrong)

\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ASPI32.SYS
\WINDOWS\system\WOWPOST.EXE
\WINDOWS\system\WINASPI.DLL
\WINDOWS\system32\WNASPI32.DLL

Note this is three different locations.

 

[jimt]

Wayne, Thanks for the input. I read an interesting article at
http://aspi.radified.com/ I will include some of the text,
Note: In order to get wowpost.exe and winaspi.dll updated to the latest
version, I had to rename the two files in the 'adaptec' folder: wowpost.ex_
becomes wowpost.exe, and winaspi.dl_ becomes winaspi.dll. Then I manually
copied these two files to my \system folder. But first I renamed the current
ones to wowpost_old.exe and winaspi_old.dll, so I could go back if I had any
problems. I've tried this and have ended up with the same version in all
entries in the ASPICHK.exe. ie. v4.71.2 I'll play with it for a while and
see what happens. Jim

 

[jimt]

Well, I got partial use of my scanner but the HP Deskscan software still
doesn't work. My SCSI is still not recognized by it.

Wayne, Thanks for the input. I read an interesting article at
http://aspi.radified.com/ I will include some of the text,
Note: In order to get wowpost.exe and winaspi.dll updated to the latest
version, I had to rename the two files in the 'adaptec' folder: wowpost.ex_
becomes wowpost.exe, and winaspi.dl_ becomes winaspi.dll. Then I manually
copied these two files to my \system folder. But first I renamed the current
ones to wowpost_old.exe and winaspi_old.dll, so I could go back if I had any
problems. I've tried this and have ended up with the same version in all
entries in the ASPICHK.exe. ie. v4.71.2 I'll play with it for a while and
see what happens. Jim

 

[Toby]

Having had a somewhat similar experience with an old HP scanner my guess
would be that the culprit is the HP software.

HP is apparently not too concerned with after-sales service.

Toby

Well, I got partial use of my scanner but the HP Deskscan software still
doesn't work. My SCSI is still not recognized by it.

 

[Mac McDougald]

When you installed the HP stuff, did you specify "other SCSI card"?

You might want to totally uninstall the Deskscan 2.9, read the readme in
the Deskscan folder (or on the installation disk files, can't rememeber)
about EVERYthing that should be uninstalled, if the uninstaller misses
it), and try reinstalling.

There are any number of folks here who successfully run Deskscan 2.9 on
XP and W2K with HP SCSI scanners.

I'm planning on doing it myself on next box

Mac

 

[jimt]

When I initially installed Deskscan, I inadvertently fail to select "other
SCSI card. I realized my mistake immediately and uninstalled Deskscan and
started over from scratch, this time specifying the right SCSI. (I searched
for all know HP scanner files and deleted them after running add/remove
program. I'm beginning to wonder if there is a registry setting that was
made on the initial install and it is keeping me from installing it
correctly. Any thoughts on this?

 

[Mac McDougald]

When I initially installed Deskscan, I inadvertently fail to select "other
SCSI card. I realized my mistake immediately and uninstalled Deskscan and
started over from scratch, this time specifying the right SCSI. (I searched
for all know HP scanner files and deleted them after running add/remove
program. I'm beginning to wonder if there is a registry setting that was
made on the initial install and it is keeping me from installing it
correctly. Any thoughts on this?

Anything's possible...

No mention of registry entries in the removal notes:
==========
Removing DeskScan II from your computer

You can run UNINSTAL.EXE to remove DeskScan II from your system. NOTE:
Be sure DeskScan II is in the same directory where you installed it. If
you have moved DeskScan to a different directory or drive, UNINSTAL.EXE
will not work properly. To manually uninstall the DeskScan II
application from your computer follow the steps below.

NOTE: If you have other HP ScanJet software installed on your system, you
should skip the ScanJet Drivers section and go to the DeskScan section.

ScanJet Drivers:
a) Delete the following files in your WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory if
they exist:
HPSCNMGR.DLL
HPSCNTST.DLL
HPSJ32.DLL
HPSJ16.DLL


2) Windows 95/Windows 98 only:
Delete SCANJET.INF from the WINDOWS\INF directory
Delete the following files in your WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory if they
exist:
HPSJCLAS.DLL
VHPSCAND.VXD
HPSJ1695.DLL
REG32.DLL
HPSJRFSH.VXD

DeskScan II:
1. Delete the following files from your WINDOWS directory:
HPDS23.INI

2. Delete the following file from your WINDOWS\TWAIN_32 directory:
HPDS23.DS

3. Delete all of the files in the directory where DeskScan II was
installed.

4. Remove the directory where DeskScan II was installed.

5. From the Windows Program Manager, delete the Program Manager Group
where DeskScan II was installed. The DeskScan II icons will be removed
automatically.

DeskScan II has been successfully removed from your computer.

 

[jimt]

Your removal instructions are the ones I followed. I don't know if I want
to go to the trouble of reinstalling XP. I have a hunch repair wouldn't
work in this case. Thanks for your input. Jim

 

[David R]

Have you considered (or discussed) Windows XP SYSTEM RESTORE?
According to what I'm reading System Restore takes your system back to
an earlier time without removing recent work such as saved documents.

GOTO Help and type SYSTEM RESTORE and read. This could be the answer
to your needs.

I have a HP P5 in the closet I have not used in years. Perhaps I will
try to duplicate your problem.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.