Newsgroup reader

[Silivren Eryn-Duin]

Hi,

I'm seeking for a good newsgroup reader for windows xp. Anybody can direct
me to a very good one ? I don't like 40tude dialog as it is full of bugs for
now.

Thanks

 

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

Hi,

I'm seeking for a good newsgroup reader for windows xp. Anybody can
direct me to a very good one ? I don't like 40tude dialog as it is
full of bugs for now.

Thanks

try here:
http://www.newsreaders.com/

 

[Nicholas]

Instead of using a web-based newsreader, use the newsreader in Outlook Express.

An easier way to read, post, and find newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp


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| Hi,
|
| I'm seeking for a good newsgroup reader for windows xp. Anybody can direct
| me to a very good one ? I don't like 40tude dialog as it is full of bugs for
| now.
|
| Thanks
|
|

 

[Silivren Eryn-Duin]

I'm using OE currently. I will perhaps use it. It seems to be good enough
for my own use.
What I wonder is : does current OE 6 version handles very long lines with
html code (links I mean) without cutting the line at half ?

Thanks

Instead of using a web-based newsreader, use the newsreader in Outlook
Express.

An easier way to read, post, and find newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp


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Nicholas

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| Hi,
|
| I'm seeking for a good newsgroup reader for windows xp. Anybody can direct
| me to a very good one ? I don't like 40tude dialog as it is full of bugs
for
| now.
|
| Thanks
|
|

 

[Tim Slattery]

Hi,

I'm seeking for a good newsgroup reader for windows xp. Anybody can direct
me to a very good one ? I don't like 40tude dialog as it is full of bugs for
now.

www.forteinc.com/agent

 

[Ken Blake]

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I'm seeking for a good newsgroup reader for windows xp. Anybody can
direct me to a very good one ? I don't like 40tude dialog as it is
full of bugs for now.

Newsreaders are a matter of taste. I see that you're currently
using Outlook Express, which is my personal preference. I've
tried several others and keep coming back to Outlook Express.

My recommendation is that, rather than get a recommendation from
someone else, you do a Google search, find several of the
better-known ones (most are freeware or shareware), and try them
all. Then you can decide what *you* like best.

 

[Silivren Eryn-Duin]

Would be fine if they include newsgroups in outlook. Even outlook 2003 does
not have newsgroup support...

 

[NobodyMan]

Would be fine if they include newsgroups in outlook. Even outlook 2003 does
not have newsgroup support...

That's because Outlook is an entirely different product than Outlook
Express. OE is a mail/newsreader program. Outlook is a full-blown
Personal Information Manager that can, if you are working in a
client-server environment, hook into an Exchange Server giving it even
more power. Outlook was never meant to be a newsgroup reader.

 

[Ken Blake]

In

Would be fine if they include newsgroups in outlook. Even outlook
2003 does not have newsgroup support...

This is a common complaint, but one that I've never agreed with,
or even understood.

No version of Microsoft Outlook has ever had newsgroup support.
Why should it? No program needs to be all things to all people.
Why, just because Outlook Express does both E-mail and
newsgroups, does that mean that all programs that do E-mail
should also do newsgroups? Outlook is not the only program that
does one with the other.

Why not complain that Word doesn't do newsgroups? Or Excel? Or
Microsoft Money? As a matter of fact, I think it's preferable
that programs are more specialized, not less. Not including
newsgroup support in Outlook permits me to use Outlook, but
choose a third-party newsreader if I want to, without having to
carry the unused newsreader code in Outlook.

 

[Nevermore]

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This is a common complaint, but one that I've never agreed with,
or even understood.

No version of Microsoft Outlook has ever had newsgroup support.
Why should it? No program needs to be all things to all people.
Why, just because Outlook Express does both E-mail and
newsgroups, does that mean that all programs that do E-mail
should also do newsgroups? Outlook is not the only program that
does one with the other.

Why not complain that Word doesn't do newsgroups? Or Excel? Or
Microsoft Money? As a matter of fact, I think it's preferable
that programs are more specialized, not less. Not including
newsgroup support in Outlook permits me to use Outlook, but
choose a third-party newsreader if I want to, without having to
carry the unused newsreader code in Outlook.

Ken, just responding to your statement that you don't "even understand" the
complaint that Newsgroup support is not available in Outlook. I understand
what your response. Why I wish they were integrated is simple--I like to
keep things very organized. I do things like save informative posts to a
folder I created etcetera. But then I end up with two sets of personal
folders. Also, when I hit send/receive in Outlook Express, I may actually
get some e-mails. I prefer to receive everything in Outlook. It is a pain to
have to search through two sets of folders. It is a pain to make sure I open
and send/receive through Outlook and then go back to OE to send from there
if I want to make sure that anything incoming ends up in Outlook. Possibly,
I am missing some tweaking information that would make these processes more
seamless but as I see it, it really shouldn't be tough to add newsgroup
support to Outlook as an add-in. Those who don't want it, don't install it.
It is fairly obvious that MS itself considers these programs
related--Outlook, Outlook Express. I personally have always considered it
bizarre that the "full program" (which is not so cheap) actually does less
than the free, express version ie. doesn't allow newsgroups. Just thought I
would put in a comment from those of us who do complain about it--if only
under our breaths at our keyboards.

 

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

Ken, just responding to your statement that you don't "even
understand" the complaint that Newsgroup support is not available in
Outlook. I understand what your response. Why I wish they were
integrated is simple--I like to keep things very organized. I do
things like save informative posts to a folder I created etcetera.
But then I end up with two sets of personal folders. Also, when I hit
send/receive in Outlook Express, I may actually get some e-mails. I
prefer to receive everything in Outlook. It is a pain to have to
search through two sets of folders. It is a pain to make sure I open
and send/receive through Outlook and then go back to OE to send from
there if I want to make sure that anything incoming ends up in
Outlook. Possibly, I am missing some tweaking information that would
make these processes more seamless but as I see it, it really
shouldn't be tough to add newsgroup support to Outlook as an add-in.
Those who don't want it, don't install it. It is fairly obvious that
MS itself considers these programs related--Outlook, Outlook Express.
I personally have always considered it bizarre that the "full
program" (which is not so cheap) actually does less than the free,
express version ie. doesn't allow newsgroups. Just thought I would
put in a comment from those of us who do complain about it--if only
under our breaths at our keyboards.

have you tried seting up Hampster as a news server and then creating public
folders in Outlook? just an idea - not even sure whether it would work.....

 

[Silivren Eryn-Duin]

have you tried seting up Hampster as a news server and then creating
public

folders in Outlook? just an idea - not even sure whether it would work.....

What is hampster ?

 

[Silivren Eryn-Duin]

have to search through two sets of folders. It is a pain to make sure I open
and send/receive through Outlook and then go back to OE to send from there
if I want to make sure that anything incoming ends up in Outlook. Possibly,
I am missing some tweaking information that would make these processes more
seamless but as I see it, it really shouldn't be tough to add newsgroup

Just delete your mail account in outlook express, if you do not use it. If
you use outlook express just to receive newsgroups you do not need an email
account in it.

 

[Ron Sommer]

I can't believe I didn't think of that! Duh-uh! Thank you very much. I will
do that! They were created b/c of the order of things--OE installs as part
of the OS. I loaded Office XP later and just imported the accounts. Never
thought about going back and deleting them in OE. Ha! Again, thanks.

Outlook starts OE NewsReader. It has no Inbox.
Delete your mail account information in OE.
You can change your shortcut to OE to start as OE NewsReader. Add /outnews
or /news only.
"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /outnews

 

[Silivren Eryn-Duin]

Outlook starts Outlook Express with the /outnews parameter. Isn't it
possible to tell it to use the /news parameters as well, so it goes in the
newsgroup server line at start ? /outnews and /news parameters are not the
same

 

[Ron Sommer]

I don't know the difference between /outnews and /new only.
/outnews starts OE saying Microsoft Outlook NewsReader and the top folder,
Outlook NewsReader.
/news only starts OE saying Outlook Express and the top folder, Outlook
Express.
The Inbox is not in either one.
Using either will start OE in NewsReader mode.

I download headers when I open the newsgroup.
OE will not check newsgroups on startup. I don't know if the NewsReader
will.
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Ron Sommer

Outlook starts Outlook Express with the /outnews parameter. Isn't it
possible to tell it to use the /news parameters as well, so it goes in the
newsgroup server line at start ? /outnews and /news parameters are not the
same

 

[Silivren Eryn-Duin]

Not at all. /news does not start Outlook Express in news mode. With only
/news, it starts outlook express in standard mode, WITH the inbox folder.

The /news command only tells outlook express to automatically highlight the
first newsgroup server we have setup, instead of highlighting the top folder
"Outlook Express".

I don't know the difference between /outnews and /new only.
/outnews starts OE saying Microsoft Outlook NewsReader and the top folder,
Outlook NewsReader.
/news only starts OE saying Outlook Express and the top folder, Outlook
Express.
The Inbox is not in either one.
Using either will start OE in NewsReader mode.

I download headers when I open the newsgroup.
OE will not check newsgroups on startup. I don't know if the NewsReader
will.

 

[Beemer Biker]

Ken, just responding to your statement that you don't "even understand" the
complaint that Newsgroup support is not available in Outlook. I understand
what your response. Why I wish they were integrated is simple--I like to
keep things very organized. I do things like save informative posts to a
folder I created etcetera. But then I end up with two sets of personal
folders. Also, when I hit send/receive in Outlook Express, I may actually
get some e-mails. I prefer to receive everything in Outlook. It is a pain to
have to search through two sets of folders. It is a pain to make sure I

open

i have this same problem and essentially am using outlook for the imap stuff
(my employer's imap server) and express for personal pop3 and newsgroups. I
would not have used outlook except that it was mandated by my employer who
(the managers only) like to use the calender and reminder functions for
meeting notices and that is not supported in OE. I frequenctly find myself
going thru several folders, not just two and have set up rule schemes to
route certain mail to appropriate folders. I either email an informative
post via the "personal" pop3 to my office imap or drag and drop it into a
local imap folder. The difference being the email ends up on the main
server accesible over the internet as opposed to a local folder mapped to
my disk drive.

I agree that newsgroup support need to be integrated into outlook. I tried
agent for a while, bought a copy of it, but went back to OE. I read where
OE is being killed off http://tinyurl.com/jv9a and cannot understand the
logic in that decision. If OE is really going to be killed off, then
outlook needs to support news. There are a number of problems that
microsoft needs to address in the OE news reader and I would have rather
sent them the money I spent on agent to have them fix the problems. Any
jerk can put " Begin 666" in the body of their post and I cannot read the
post unless I hit CTRL-F3. If I want to complain about a base64 porn spam
the copy/paste function fails to copy the url of the spammer and I have to
manually enter the url word for word when I forward my complaint to an abuse
desk. The problems with "quoted" replies was so bad that a programmer came
out with a "quotefix" OE addin and had his web site swamped to where he had
to move his quotefix download to another location.

and send/receive through Outlook and then go back to OE to send from there
if I want to make sure that anything incoming ends up in Outlook. Possibly,
I am missing some tweaking information that would make these processes more
seamless but as I see it, it really shouldn't be tough to add newsgroup
support to Outlook as an add-in. Those who don't want it, don't install it.
It is fairly obvious that MS itself considers these programs
related--Outlook, Outlook Express. I personally have always considered it
bizarre that the "full program" (which is not so cheap) actually does less
than the free, express version ie. doesn't allow newsgroups. Just thought I
would put in a comment from those of us who do complain about it--if only
under our breaths at our keyboards.

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[Ron Sommer]

My mistake. :-(
I shouldn't have put a space in newsonly.
/newsonly starts OE saying Outlook Express and the top folder, Outlook
Express.

 

[Ron Sommer]

I don't know if Outlook lets you create program shortcuts on the toolbar.
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Ron Sommer

Is there a way to start OE with such an argument from within outlook ?

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