new user - help needed

M

Martin

hi all,

i am new to this technology stuff so bear with me. i was surfing the
internet and all of a sudden my computer is telling the i have spy / ad ware
on my computer and windows securty center is tell me to go to antispynet.com
but i have a good anti virus and spy /ad ware software on my computer. these
windows come up and r getting on my very hot headed.

is there someone out there that can lead me in the right direction to get
rid of this problem. thks
 
S

S.Sengupta

Scan your system with latest versions of Spybot.Search and
Destroy,CWShredder as well as with Adaware.
Run all these in Safe mode.

regards,
S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
 
D

DL

Perhaps you should have mentioned that the poster needs to do this because
his system is infected with malaware/trojans.
He should also turn off system restore and only re enable it was the sys is
shown to be clean

S.Sengupta said:
Scan your system with latest versions of Spybot.Search and
Destroy,CWShredder as well as with Adaware.
Run all these in Safe mode.

regards,
S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
hi all,

i am new to this technology stuff so bear with me. i was surfing the
internet and all of a sudden my computer is telling the i have spy / ad ware
on my computer and windows securty center is tell me to go to antispynet.com
but i have a good anti virus and spy /ad ware software on my computer. these
windows come up and r getting on my very hot headed.

is there someone out there that can lead me in the right direction to get
rid of this problem. thks
 
M

Manny Borges

To the best of my knowledge the behavior you have described is not a product
of the windows security center.

In fact, there is no adware or virus product that I am familiar with that
will EVER pop a message up and ask you to go to a website to fix it.
Which kind of makes sense when you think about it.
The product can either fix the issue, or not. If the product needs an
update, it will have its own secure method of obtaining its update.


Most likely, you are infected by malicious software that is giving you fake
messages to try and entice you to going to a site that will further infect
you or try to harvest information from you.

OR, some sites use standard web popups with the same unsavory aim.

Like popping up a window that says "now downloading horrible thing that you
would never want, click here to stop" but in fact doing the exact opposite
when you click there "stop button".

A good rule of thumb is to use the red x to close these kinds of windows,
or the ALT-F4 key combo.

--
Manny Borges
MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
MCT, Certified Cheese Master

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
and those who don't.
 
R

Ricman

I also have been infected with this nasty malware. I get browser
popups, taskbar popups and it has hijacked MSIE (tho not Firefox). I
have run AdAware and purchased and run Spy Sweeper. Neither one has
killed this pest. I can't find anything about antispynet.com in Google
searches and just this opne post in Groups. Any help would be hugely
appreciated.

Ric Manning
 
D

DL

Try windows.public.security.virus newsgroup

Below a copy of an earlier post; remember to turn off sys restore untill
your sys is clean
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If you are using any version of Sun Java that is prior to JRE Version 5.0,
then you are strongly urged to remove any/all versions that are prior to
JRE/JSE
Version 5.0. There are vulnerabilities in them and they are actively being
exploited.
It is possible that is how you got infected with malware.

Therefore, it is highly suggested that if there are any prior versions of
Sun Java
to Version 5 on the PC that they be removed and Sun Java JRE/JSE Version 5.0
Update 7
be installed ASAP.

Simple check, look under...
C:\Program Files\Java

The only folder under that folder should be the latest version...

C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_07


http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp



For non-viral malware...

Please download, install and update the following software...

* Ad-aware SE v1.06
http://www.lavasoft.de/
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
http://www.lavasoft.de/ms/index.htm

* SpyBot Search and Destroy v1.4
http://security.kolla.de/
http://www.safer-networking.org/microsoft.en.html

* SuperAntiSpyware
http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html

After the software is updated, I suggest scanning the system in Safe Mode.

I also suggest downloading, installing and updating BHODemon for any Browser
Helper Objects
that may be on the PC.

* BHODemon

http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?id=3550&file=11&evp=245a87539eea8ed6904332b4b8b8442d

For viral malware...

* Download MULTI_AV.EXE from the URL --
http://www.ik-cs.com/programs/virtools/Multi_AV.exe

To use this utility, perform the following...
Execute; Multi_AV.exe { Note: You must use the default folder C:\AV-CLS }
Choose; Unzip
Choose; Close

Execute; C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT
{ or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS }

NOTE: You may have to disable your software FireWall or allow WGET.EXE to go
through your
FireWall to allow it to download the needed AV vendor related files.

C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT -- { or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS}
This will bring up the initial menu of choices and should be executed in
Normal Mode.
This way all the components can be downloaded from each AV vendor's web
site.
The choices are; Sophos, Trend, McAfee, Kaspersky, Exit this menu and Reboot
the PC.

You can choose to go to each menu item and just download the needed files or
you can
download the files and perform a scan in Normal Mode. Once you have
downloaded the files
needed for each scanner you want to use, you should reboot the PC into Safe
Mode [F8 key
during boot] and re-run the menu again and choose which scanner you want to
run in Safe
Mode. It is suggested to run the scanners in both Safe Mode and Normal
Mode.

When the menu is displayed hitting 'H' or 'h' will bring up a more
comprehensive PDF help
file. http://www.ik-cs.com/multi-av.htm

Additional Instructions:
http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm


* * * Please report back your results * * *
 
L

LS \(V\)

This type of PopUp is advertisement (or "ADWARE")
If you click on that popup link you will most definitly get MAJOR
Spyware/Virus
infections from that website.
Those popups doesn't necessarily mean you have anything wrong with your
computer (Unless you actually click on the link)
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Martin said:
hi all,

i am new to this technology stuff so bear with me. i was surfing the
internet and all of a sudden my computer is telling the i have spy / ad ware
on my computer and windows securty center is tell me to go to antispynet.com
but i have a good anti virus and spy /ad ware software on my computer. these
windows come up and r getting on my very hot headed.

is there someone out there that can lead me in the right direction to get
rid of this problem. thks


It sounds like a common scam, but your description is a little
vague about the precise circumstances under which the pop-ups appear.

It's most likely from a very unscrupulous "business." They're
trying to sell you patches that Microsoft provides free-of-charge, or a
useless "product" that will install adware/spyware, and using a very
intrusive means of advertising. It's also demonstrating that your PC is
very unsecure. The presence of that message on your desktop is proof
that your machine is still infested, as the message *is* malware.

What specific kind of pop-ups are you seeing? There are at least
three varieties of pop-ups, and the solutions vary accordingly.

1) Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"

This type of spam has become quite common over the past few years,
and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It demonstrates
that the computer user hasn't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. The user's data probably hasn't been
compromised by these specific advertisements, but if he/she's open to
this exploit, he/she may well be open to other threats, such as the
Blaster Worm that swept across the Internet years ago and the Sasser
Worm that followed shortly thereafter, both of which can still be
contacted. Install and use a decent, properly configured firewall.
(Merely disabling the messenger service, as some people recommend, only
hides the symptom, and does little or nothing to truly secure the
machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with" the security gap
represented by these messages is particularly foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise the user to do
nothing more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the
messenger service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to
computer security. The real problem is not the messenger service
pop-ups; they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by
acting as a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer,
and the user's been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is
this helpful?

2) For regular Internet pop-ups, you might try the free 12Ghosts
Popup-killer from http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/popup.htm, Pop-Up Stopper
from http://www.panicware.com/, or the Google Toolbar from
http://toolbar.google.com/. Alternatively, you can upgrade your WinXP
to SP2, to install IE's pop-up blocker. Another alternative would be
to use another browser, such as Mozilla or Firefox, which has pop-up
blocking capabilities. (But I'd avoid Netscape; it carries too much
extraneous AOL garbage.)

3) To deal with pop-ups caused by any sort of "adware" and/or
"spyware,"such as Gator, Comet Cursors, Xupiter, Bonzai Buddy, or
KaZaA, and their remnants, that you've deliberately (but without
understanding the consequences) installed, two products that are
quite effective (at finding and removing this type of scumware) are
Ad-Aware from www.lavasoft.de and SpyBot Search & Destroy from
www.safer-networking.org/. Both have free versions. It's even
possible to use SpyBot Search & Destroy to "immunize" your system
against most future intrusions. I use both and generally perform
manual scans every week or so to clean out cookies, etc.

Additionally, manual removal instructions for the most common
varieties of scumware are available here:

PC Hell Spyware and Adware Removal Help
http://www.pchell.com/support/spyware.shtml

More information and assistance is available at these sites:

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

The Parasite Fight
http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

Neither adware nor spyware, collectively known as scumware,
magically install themselves on anyone's computer. They are almost
always deliberately installed by the computer's user, as part of some
allegedly "free" service or product.

While there are some unscrupulous malware distributors out there,
who do attempt to install and exploit malware without consent, the
majority of them simply rely upon the intellectual laziness and
gullibility of the average consumer, counting on them to quickly click
past the EULA in his/her haste to get the latest in "free" cutesy
cursors, screensavers, "utilities," and/or wallpapers.

If you were to read the EULAs that accompany, and to which the
computer user must agree before the download/installation of the
"screensaver" continues, most adware and spyware, you'll find that
they _do_ have the consumer's permission to do exactly what they're
doing. In the overwhelming majority of cases, computer users have no
one to blame but themselves.

There are several essential components to computer security: a
knowledgeable and pro-active user, a properly configured firewall,
reliable and up-to-date antivirus software, and the prompt repair (via
patches, hotfixes, or service packs) of any known vulnerabilities.

The weakest link in this "equation" is, of course, the computer
user. No software manufacturer can -- nor should they be expected
to -- protect the computer user from him/herself. All too many people
have bought into the various PC/software manufacturers marketing
claims of easy computing. They believe that their computer should be
no harder to use than a toaster oven; they have neither the
inclination or desire to learn how to safely use their computer. All
too few people keep their antivirus software current, install patches
in a timely manner, or stop to really think about that cutesy link
they're about to click.

Firewalls and anti-virus applications, which should always be used
and should always be running, are important components of "safe hex,"
but they cannot, and should not be expected to, protect the computer
user from him/herself. Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and
every computer user to learn how to secure his/her own computer.

To learn more about practicing "safe hex," start with these links:

Protect Your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp

Home Computer Security
http://www.cert.org/homeusers/HomeComputerSecurity/

List of Antivirus Software Vendors
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;49500

Home PC Firewall Guide
http://www.firewallguide.com/

Scumware.com
http://www.scumware.com/



--

Bruce Chambers

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J

John

Manny said:
Like popping up a window that says "now downloading horrible thing that you
would never want, click here to stop" but in fact doing the exact opposite
when you click there "stop button".

A good rule of thumb is to use the red x to close these kinds of windows,
or the ALT-F4 key combo.

What red X? Why not just exit your browser and tell yourself don't go to
that site anymore? Your browser does immediately close all windows and
pop-ups when you exit - right?

John
 
M

Manny Borges

Ok. Stop. Take a deep breath.

Make sure you are seated.

Now, look at the upper right corner of almost any window.

Ahh, are you ok? you didn't fall down?

Yeah, that little red x can sneak up on ya if you aren't paying attention.
That's the close button it lives with the minimize button and the bipolar
Maximize/Restore button. I realize it is a relatively new feature in
windows(since windows 3.1{YES I know it was there before but it doesn't
count in my book because there was no co-op multitasking in the kernel to
really use it effectively}), so I will cut you some slack here.

And, no, closing one browser does not close associated popups. These are
individual browser sessions and must be closed separately.
Some java based and active X based web apps use popups tied to a main
browser, but those are the exception, not the rule.

My advice: look at the screen, read the words and use Google and wickipedia
to fill in your gaps before you try to flame someone.
--
Manny Borges
MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
MCT, Certified Cheese Master

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
and those who don't.
 

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