New Theory: AMD's CPU Throttling damaged the power supply.

S

Skybuck Flying

Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

I downloaded a special AMD Software tool called AMD Power Monitor or
something like that.

Which throttles back the CPU when it's idling... then when it needs to do
work the cpu is throttled up.

So on idle the processor will work at 1.0 volts... and then when it's busy
it will work on 2.0 volts... maybe even voltages between it.

These voltages fluctuations occur very rapidly.

Think of it like this:

You turn on the water... you turn off the water... then you turn it on
again... then you turn it off again.

If you do this at the right pace... the water in the tubes will start to
pound on the inner tubing... and sooner or later something is going to
break.

This is probably what is happening inside the electronics.

It will work for a while... but after one or two years of heavy usage...
kiss it goodbye !

Fluctuations in temperature seem to also cause problems for gpu's in
laptops...

Try doing that with your teeth fillings... ouch ;)

Crappy hardware nowadays, me very sorry I bought this crap.

But it is powerfull and with some nice Skybuck experience and knowledge it
might work after all.

So I gotta find a new power supply... and leave the processor at always 2.0
volts to prevent any damage or temperature fluctuations.

Don't know what happens to gpu though... though the 7900 gtx seems to be
able to take quiet a beating... don't know about the components around it on
the motherboard though ;)

You've been warned people =D

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
E

Eeyore

Skybuck said:
Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

Your theories are worthless.

BUY a ready made PC instead of making an idiot of yourself. The savings would be
enormous.

Graham
 
G

Glenn Gundlach

Skybuck said:
Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.
Bye,
Skybuck.

What IS it with you? The whole world has sunshine and it rains only on
you? MY theory on your 'luck' with computers is your own ineptitude.
You're doing something YOU think isn't wrong but it is.

Bye,
 
M

MitchAlsup

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

The word is CONJECTURE, in order to qualify as a theory, there has to
be
massive substantiating evidence. With a little evidence you have only
arrived
at Hypothesis. And you don't even have this, yet.
 
F

Fat Moe

Skybuck said:
Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

I downloaded a special AMD Software tool called AMD Power Monitor or
something like that.

Which throttles back the CPU when it's idling... then when it needs to do
work the cpu is throttled up.

So on idle the processor will work at 1.0 volts... and then when it's busy
it will work on 2.0 volts... maybe even voltages between it.

These voltages fluctuations occur very rapidly.

Think of it like this:

You turn on the water... you turn off the water... then you turn it on
again... then you turn it off again.

If you do this at the right pace... the water in the tubes will start to
pound on the inner tubing... and sooner or later something is going to
break.

This is probably what is happening inside the electronics.

It will work for a while... but after one or two years of heavy usage...
kiss it goodbye !

Fluctuations in temperature seem to also cause problems for gpu's in
laptops...

Try doing that with your teeth fillings... ouch ;)

Crappy hardware nowadays, me very sorry I bought this crap.

But it is powerfull and with some nice Skybuck experience and knowledge it
might work after all.

So I gotta find a new power supply... and leave the processor at always 2.0
volts to prevent any damage or temperature fluctuations.

Don't know what happens to gpu though... though the 7900 gtx seems to be
able to take quiet a beating... don't know about the components around it on
the motherboard though ;)

You've been warned people =D

Bye,
Skybuck.
Hydraulic shock on the power supply, I think you might be right. Is
the power supply dripping water?
 
D

Dave

Skybuck Flying said:
Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

I downloaded a special AMD Software tool called AMD Power Monitor or
something like that.

Which throttles back the CPU when it's idling... then when it needs to do
work the cpu is throttled up.

So on idle the processor will work at 1.0 volts... and then when it's busy
it will work on 2.0 volts... maybe even voltages between it.

These voltages fluctuations occur very rapidly.

Think of it like this:

You turn on the water... you turn off the water... then you turn it on
again... then you turn it off again.

If you do this at the right pace... the water in the tubes will start to
pound on the inner tubing... and sooner or later something is going to
break.

This is probably what is happening inside the electronics.


Being gentle, there is a huge hole in your theory. That hole is hard
drives. They are constantly spinning up and spinning down. If a power
supply could be damaged the way you think they can, any system with a hard
drive would experience such failures.

But then you could have something, as power supply failures are quite
common. Note I'm only half joking there. :) -Dave
 
S

Skybuck Flying

I disagree with you...

Harddisks shutdown for a long time because of inactivity... or they simply
keep on spinning for a long time...

And when they do spin up, they do so slowly... not abruptly.

Harddisks were designed by IBM.

We all know what happens when you try to take on IBM.

You go down burning in flames ! =D

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
E

Eeyore

Skybuck said:
I disagree with you...

Harddisks shutdown for a long time because of inactivity...

Only if you tell the O/S to do that.

or they simply keep on spinning for a long time...

And when they do spin up, they do so slowly... not abruptly.

Whilst drawing LOTS of start-up current.

Harddisks were designed by IBM.

Not even sure you're right about that.

We all know what happens when you try to take on IBM.

You go down burning in flames ! =D

You're an IDIOT>

Graham
 
M

miso

Hello,

I have a new theory how the power supply got damaged:

AMD's X2 3800+ dual core processor has CPU Throttling.

I downloaded a special AMD Software tool called AMD Power Monitor or
something like that.

Which throttles back the CPU when it's idling... then when it needs to do
work the cpu is throttled up.

So on idle the processor will work at 1.0 volts... and then when it's busy
it will work on 2.0 volts... maybe even voltages between it.

These voltages fluctuations occur very rapidly.

Think of it like this:

You turn on the water... you turn off the water... then you turn it on
again... then you turn it off again.

If you do this at the right pace... the water in the tubes will start to
pound on the inner tubing... and sooner or later something is going to
break.

This is probably what is happening inside the electronics.

It will work for a while... but after one or two years of heavy usage...
kiss it goodbye !

Fluctuations in temperature seem to also cause problems for gpu's in
laptops...

Try doing that with your teeth fillings... ouch ;)

Crappy hardware nowadays, me very sorry I bought this crap.

But it is powerfull and with some nice Skybuck experience and knowledge it
might work after all.

So I gotta find a new power supply... and leave the processor at always 2..0
volts to prevent any damage or temperature fluctuations.

Don't know what happens to gpu though... though the 7900 gtx seems to be
able to take quiet a beating... don't know about the components around iton
the motherboard though ;)

You've been warned people =D

Bye,
  Skybuck.

The clock rate is throttled, not the supply voltage.
 
M

Marty

So I gotta find a new power supply... and leave the processor at always
2.0 volts to prevent any damage or temperature fluctuations.

Don't know what happens to gpu though... though the 7900 gtx seems to be
able to take quiet a beating... don't know about the components around
it on the motherboard though ;)

You've been warned people =D

You don't need a new power supply. Your problem is caused by dark
electrons (as opposed to light(normal)) ones. You have to sequester the
dark electrons as they emerge from the power supply, this is done with an
electron trap. These devices are not widely known or available, but I can
sell you plans for an excellent unit.
 
A

a7yvm109gf5d1

You seem to have a lot of money. Do you work? Who would hire you? What
do you do?
 
S

Skybuck Flying

In your other posting you said you slowed down the fan. Duh..

Good point.

Slowing down and speeding up fans might lead to power fluctuations as
well...

However it doesn't happen so often.

And it happens rather gradually.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
B

Benjamin Gawert

* (e-mail address removed):
You seem to have a lot of money. Do you work? Who would hire you? What
do you do?

You really think that a retard with such a writing ability is old enough
to work?

SkyFuck is a Dutch wanker that probably even hasn't reached the age of
10. I'm pretty sure is parents are stupid enough to finance his
excursions into a world of idiocy.

Benjamin
 
S

Skybuck Flying

The voltage goes up and down as well, at least on AMD processors.

Which probably influences the rest of the system too.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
F

FatBytestard

How much has this latest fiasco cost you?

John

There is not a single idiot in the world that this guy wouldn't top.

The entire gamut range of available CPU throttling cannot damage the
power supply.

He is an utter retard, and should stay OUT of all PC cases. The little
idiot should stay OUT of the goddamned BIOS settings as well.
 
F

FatBytestard

I suspect mommy and daddy are paying for it as he has the prose of a
teenager.


According to him, he has trashed about 5 computers in the last three
years.

I don't think it is a mommy and daddy issue, although mommy might be
found criminally negligent in that she didn't flush him the moment she
shat him.
 
M

Marty

SkyFuck is a Dutch wanker that probably even hasn't reached the age of
10. I'm pretty sure is parents are stupid enough to finance his
excursions into a world of idiocy.

Benjamin

He is a Dutch narcissist named Harald Houppermans. He has been posting
crap on internet at least since 2000. He is a *very* amateur programmer
as well as an accomplished PC hardware ****wit. His modus operandi hasn't
changed an iota since 2000.
 
K

krw

There is not a single idiot in the world that this guy wouldn't top.

Sure there is; Dimbulb.
The entire gamut range of available CPU throttling cannot damage the
power supply.

He is an utter retard, and should stay OUT of all PC cases. The little
idiot should stay OUT of the goddamned BIOS settings as well.

....and SED.
 

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