never changed a cpu?

G

Gavin

Does a pentium 2 400mhz CPU and a pentium 3 500mhz processor have the same
fit fixture and fittings for the mobo?

Secondly does a CPU need a fan and a heatsink, and would there be any point
in buying a cpu without a fan.

Thirdly is there much advantage to changing a p2-400 for a p3-500?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Gavin
 
S

spodosaurus

Gavin said:
Does a pentium 2 400mhz CPU and a pentium 3 500mhz processor have the same
fit fixture and fittings for the mobo?

no

Secondly does a CPU need a fan and a heatsink,
yes

and would there be any point
in buying a cpu without a fan.

yes: attach your own HSF unit.
Thirdly is there much advantage to changing a p2-400 for a p3-500?

You can't without buying a new motherboard (or some sort of adapter, if
they're still available...if they ever were).
Thanks in advance for your help.
Gavin


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K

Kill Bill

Gavin said:
Does a pentium 2 400mhz CPU and a pentium 3 500mhz processor have the same
fit fixture and fittings for the mobo?

Secondly does a CPU need a fan and a heatsink, and would there be any
point
in buying a cpu without a fan.

Thirdly is there much advantage to changing a p2-400 for a p3-500?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Gavin
I'd suggest a Dell. Seriously.
 
J

jimbo

I upgraded a 400 MHz P2 Dell to a 995 MHz P3. There is (was) a web site
that explained the whole procedure. Nothing to it really, just remove
the old one and install the new one. I wouldn't replace with anything
less than twice the speed.

Good luck, jimbo
 
S

spodosaurus

spodosaurus said:

assuming slot 1 PII and socket 370 PIII
yes: attach your own HSF unit.



You can't without buying a new motherboard (or some sort of adapter, if
they're still available...if they ever were).


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J

JAD

Gavin said:
Does a pentium 2 400mhz CPU and a pentium 3 500mhz processor have the same
fit fixture and fittings for the mobo?

if they are both 'slot 1' maybe
Secondly does a CPU need a fan and a heatsink, and would there be any point
in buying a cpu without a fan.

PII PIII most of the time need a cooler

Thirdly is there much advantage to changing a p2-400 for a p3-500?

sure sse1 to sse2 for some applications this was a decent upgrade
 
S

spodosaurus

JAD said:
the same



if they are both 'slot 1' maybe

There weren't slot 1 PIIIs, only PIIs and Celerons. The PIIIs were
socket 370, along with later celerons.
any point



PII PIII most of the time need a cooler





sure sse1 to sse2 for some applications this was a decent upgrade


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J

JAD

There weren't slot 1 PIIIs, only PIIs and Celerons. The PIIIs were
socket 370, along with later celerons.


don't be silly,

I have 4 - PIII 850mhz 'slot 1' asus P3V4X boarded
systems.........There ARE MANY others.
 
S

spodosaurus

JAD said:
don't be silly,

I have 4 - PIII 850mhz 'slot 1' asus P3V4X boarded
systems.........There ARE MANY others.

You're right, Intel went right up to at least 1GHz with the slot one.

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T

T Shadow

spodosaurus said:
There weren't slot 1 PIIIs, only PIIs and Celerons. The PIIIs were
socket 370, along with later celerons.

I'm typing this message on PIII/450mhz Slot 1 system(Abit BX6r2) BIOS says
it'll take up to 700mhz. I'd suggest going to M/B mfg website and getting
manual and check for BIOS updates.
In general I agree with previous poster that you should try to double CPU
speeed But if you already have the Slot 1PIII and know that it will allow
you to do something the PII won't then go for it. Being able to capture
video at a higher rate is one thing that comes to mind.YMMV
 
A

Al Smith

There weren't slot 1 PIIIs, only PIIs and Celerons. The PIIIs were
don't be silly,

I have 4 - PIII 850mhz 'slot 1' asus P3V4X boarded
systems.........There ARE MANY others.

Years ago when I looked into upgrading my P2 450 Slot 1, I
discovered that I could go as high as a P3 850 Slot 1 without
having to change anything else at all -- just drop in the new CPU
and go. I didn't bother because it would have cost me an arm and a
leg at the time.
 
F

Frank

JAD said:
don't be silly,

I have 4 - PIII 850mhz 'slot 1' asus P3V4X boarded
systems.........There ARE MANY others.

Where are these morons coming from? This used to be a good informative
group. I have three slot 1 P3's and a slot 1 P2 that came out of a HP
Pavillion
that had a heatsink with no fan and it was convex shaped so that a fan could
not
even be installed. (myth, conjecture and bullshit) does not make for a good
group.
 
D

David Maynard

spodosaurus said:
There weren't slot 1 PIIIs, only PIIs and Celerons.


Where in the world did you get that idea? Slot-1 P-IIIs go all the way from
450MHz to 1.13 gig.
The PIIIs were
socket 370,

They, Coppermine P-IIIs, were available in socket 370 TOO. Katami P-IIIs
were only slot-1 because of the 512K cartridge cache.
 
S

spodosaurus

David said:
Where in the world did you get that idea? Slot-1 P-IIIs go all the way
from 450MHz to 1.13 gig.

And if you read my followup you'll see I acknowledged my mistake well
before any of the tossers decided to chime in without reading it, either...

They, Coppermine P-IIIs, were available in socket 370 TOO. Katami P-IIIs
were only slot-1 because of the 512K cartridge cache.


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P

petermcmillan_uk

spodosaurus said:
assuming slot 1 PII and socket 370 PIII

Yes, but it could be a slot1 PIII!

My old machine had a 350MHz PII, but could be upgraded to a 500HMz PIII!
 
S

spodosaurus

Yes, but it could be a slot1 PIII!

My old machine had a 350MHz PII, but could be upgraded to a 500HMz PIII!

I got a bit turned around thinking about how the CELERONS, rather than
the PIII, swapped over to socket 370 around the 400mhz mark (466), and
the market for slot 1 celerons was pretty bleak soon after the swap over
as everyone was stocking the s370 units, hence the popularity of the
sloket type adapter.

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neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. To jump to the end
of the story, as a result of this I need a bone marrow transplant. Many
people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant, too. Please
volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 
D

David Maynard

spodosaurus said:
And if you read my followup you'll see I acknowledged my mistake well
before any of the tossers decided to chime in without reading it, either...

Well, I'm sorry but I don't read the whole newsgroup before posting on the
off chance that someone changed their mind later. I just take 'em as they come.
 

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