Networking Windows XP Home Edition with Windows 2000 Professional

[Earl]

I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network card.

At this point, each computer can see the other one when
viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer. When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are currently no
logon servers available to service the logon request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be resolved my
having the administrator at work create a password for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.

 

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when you connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and use a username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of your desktop account on
the laptop.

 

[Earl]

Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean login
this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted for
username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT (with
double left click). I just get the error message. Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I use
at work) the computer returns the desktop computer name
(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can likely
figure it out.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when you connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and use a username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of your desktop account on
the laptop.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network card.

At this point, each computer can see the other one when
viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer. When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are currently no
logon servers available to service the logon request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be resolved my
having the administrator at work create a password for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.

.

 

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a server, you need to use
an account that makes sense to the server. In the absence of a domain, each
computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to each other.

So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any computer) and the account on
BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account is BASEMENT\User1. So
use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect as a different user,
and give it the full account name and password.

Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a remote server,
Windows will try logging onto a server account using the same short username
and password that you are logged on with. This works for many home users,
but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a domain and you are
probably logging in with a domain account.

Better?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean login
this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted for
username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT (with
double left click). I just get the error message. Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I use
at work) the computer returns the desktop computer name
(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can likely
figure it out.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when you connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and use a username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of your desktop account on
the laptop.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network card.

At this point, each computer can see the other one when
viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer. When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are currently no
logon servers available to service the logon request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be resolved my
having the administrator at work create a password for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.

.

 

[matthew]

Earl you are doing better than me... i ahve the same
wireless router, a desktop running XPhome, laptop running
XPpro.. and i cant even get them to see eachother.

which did you setup first, the laptop, or desktop? did
you use the wizard?

all i want to do is share one folder, so i can eliminate
using my usb drive pen.

thanks for your help

 

[earl]

Ken,

Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to connect
as a different user through the Map Network Drive wizard
with no luck. Here's what I did:

1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
lower case).

2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user (I
tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
basement\earl).

3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I browse
out to Basement.

4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG workgroup and
nothing happens.

5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm back
to "There are currently no logon servers available to
service the logon request".

This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
router would it? I don't think so since the computers
can see each other.

Also, since the computers are both in the same workgroup
(HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?

I do appreciate all your help. If this thread reveals
any relevant info please get back to me, if not thanks
again.

-----Original Message-----
I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a server, you need to use
an account that makes sense to the server. In the absence of a domain, each
computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to each other.

So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any computer) and the account on
BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account is BASEMENT\User1. So
use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect as a different user,
and give it the full account name and password.

Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a remote server,
Windows will try logging onto a server account using the same short username
and password that you are logged on with. This works for many home users,
but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a domain and you are
probably logging in with a domain account.

Better?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean login
this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted for
username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT (with
double left click). I just get the error message. Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I use
at work) the computer returns the desktop computer name
(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can likely
figure it out.

Thanks

a
username of and
confers no rights. currently
no resolved
my

.

 

[sbarraza]

I am stuck on the same problem with my two PC's please let
me know if you find anything out.

sbarraza

 

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work. Here's what you can
do.

On the laptop create an account that uses the same username and password as
you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow you to access the
laptop from the desktop.

You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP Pro, visit the User
Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It will allow you to
store names and passwords for different servers. Use the name and password
that worked for NET USE.

Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or accessing the
Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter, you could consider
upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise there are 3-rd
party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used any of them. Maybe
others here have some advice.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
to authenticate through DOS evertime?

I also got the printer to work.

Thanks for your help.

This may sound like too much, but I would really like to
be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop when
I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
something else.

Thanks for all your help.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and type:

net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
explorer \\basement

It should prompt your for Earl's password after the net use. Does this
work?

The workgroup name is only important for browsing and has no role in
authentication.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to connect
as a different user through the Map Network Drive wizard
with no luck. Here's what I did:

1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
lower case).

2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user (I
tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
basement\earl).

3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I browse
out to Basement.

4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG workgroup and
nothing happens.

5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm back
to "There are currently no logon servers available to
service the logon request".

This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
router would it? I don't think so since the computers
can see each other.

Also, since the computers are both in the same workgroup
(HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?

I do appreciate all your help. If this thread reveals
any relevant info please get back to me, if not thanks
again.

-----Original Message-----
I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
server, you need to use
an account that makes sense to the server. In the
absence of a domain, each
computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to each
other.

So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
computer) and the account on
BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account is
BASEMENT\User1. So
use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect as
a different user,
and give it the full account name and password.

Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a
remote server,
Windows will try logging onto a server account using the
same short username
and password that you are logged on with. This works
for many home users,
but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a
domain and you are
probably logging in with a domain account.

Better?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.


Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not
sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the
desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean
login
this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted for
username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT (with
double left click). I just get the error message.
Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I
use
at work) the computer returns the desktop computer name
(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can likely
figure it out.

Thanks


-----Original Message-----
Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when you
connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of
BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and use
a
username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of your
desktop account on
the laptop.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected
to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network
card.

At this point, each computer can see the other one
when
viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on
the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer.
When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
currently
no
logon servers available to service the logon
request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name of
the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be
resolved
my
having the administrator at work create a password
for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.


.



.

.

 

[Earl]

Ken,

My laptop has 2000 professional. Do I need my
administrator at work to set up the username and
password, or can I do it within my standard login profile?

Judging from your email, I take it that I can't use
Remote Desktop Connection in XP Home Edition?

I might try VNC which is a freeware that is supposed to
accomplish what I want. Upgrading to XP Pro seems like a
real hassle since I would have to reinstall all my
applications, etc.

Thanks again.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work. Here's what you can
do.

On the laptop create an account that uses the same username and password as
you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow you to access the
laptop from the desktop.

You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP Pro, visit the User
Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It will allow you to
store names and passwords for different servers. Use the name and password
that worked for NET USE.

Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or accessing the
Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter, you could consider
upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise there are 3-rd
party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used any of them. Maybe
others here have some advice.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
to authenticate through DOS evertime?

I also got the printer to work.

Thanks for your help.

This may sound like too much, but I would really like to
be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop when
I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
something else.

Thanks for all your help.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and type:

net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
explorer \\basement

It should prompt your for Earl's password after the

net
use. Does this

work?

The workgroup name is only important for browsing and has no role in
authentication.

and
confers no rights.

Ken,

Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to connect
as a different user through the Map Network Drive wizard
with no luck. Here's what I did:

1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
lower case).

2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user (I
tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
basement\earl).

3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I browse
out to Basement.

4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG

workgroup
and

nothing happens.

5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm back
to "There are currently no logon servers available to
service the logon request".

This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
router would it? I don't think so since the computers
can see each other.

Also, since the computers are both in the same workgroup
(HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?

I do appreciate all your help. If this thread reveals
any relevant info please get back to me, if not thanks
again.

-----Original Message-----
I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
server, you need to use
an account that makes sense to the server. In the
absence of a domain, each
computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to each
other.

So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
computer) and the account on
BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the

account
is

BASEMENT\User1. So
use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select

Connect
as

a different user,
and give it the full account name and password.

Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a
remote server,
Windows will try logging onto a server account

using
the

same short username
and password that you are logged on with. This works
for many home users,
but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a
domain and you are
probably logging in with a domain account.

Better?

warranties,
and

confers no rights.


Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not
sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the
desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean
login
this way upon startup, because I don't get

prompted
for

username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT (with
double left click). I just get the error message.
Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I
use
at work) the computer returns the desktop

computer
name

(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can likely
figure it out.

Thanks


-----Original Message-----
Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so

when
you

connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of
BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse

and
use

a
username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account

of
your

desktop account on
the laptop.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected
to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network
card.

At this point, each computer can see the other one
when
viewing "entire network". I have put them

both
in a

workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on
the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer.
When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
currently
no
logon servers available to service the logon
request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the

name
of

the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be
resolved
my
having the administrator at work create a password
for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.


.



.



.

.

 

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

I don't believe 2000pro could store passwords like XP, but it's been a
while, anyone?

Home edition cannot be a remote desktop server, just a client.


--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

My laptop has 2000 professional. Do I need my
administrator at work to set up the username and
password, or can I do it within my standard login profile?

Judging from your email, I take it that I can't use
Remote Desktop Connection in XP Home Edition?

I might try VNC which is a freeware that is supposed to
accomplish what I want. Upgrading to XP Pro seems like a
real hassle since I would have to reinstall all my
applications, etc.

Thanks again.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work. Here's what you can
do.

On the laptop create an account that uses the same username and password as
you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow you to access the
laptop from the desktop.

You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP Pro, visit the User
Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It will allow you to
store names and passwords for different servers. Use the name and password
that worked for NET USE.

Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or accessing the
Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter, you could consider
upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise there are 3-rd
party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used any of them. Maybe
others here have some advice.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
to authenticate through DOS evertime?

I also got the printer to work.

Thanks for your help.

This may sound like too much, but I would really like to
be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop when
I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
something else.

Thanks for all your help.

Earl
-----Original Message-----
Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and
type:

net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
explorer \\basement

It should prompt your for Earl's password after the net
use. Does this
work?

The workgroup name is only important for browsing and
has no role in
authentication.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.


Ken,

Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to connect
as a different user through the Map Network Drive
wizard
with no luck. Here's what I did:

1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
lower case).

2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user (I
tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
basement\earl).

3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I browse
out to Basement.

4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG workgroup
and
nothing happens.

5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm
back
to "There are currently no logon servers available to
service the logon request".

This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
router would it? I don't think so since the computers
can see each other.

Also, since the computers are both in the same
workgroup
(HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?

I do appreciate all your help. If this thread reveals
any relevant info please get back to me, if not thanks
again.

-----Original Message-----
I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
server, you need to use
an account that makes sense to the server. In the
absence of a domain, each
computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to
each
other.

So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
computer) and the account on
BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account
is
BASEMENT\User1. So
use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect
as
a different user,
and give it the full account name and password.

Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a
remote server,
Windows will try logging onto a server account using
the
same short username
and password that you are logged on with. This works
for many home users,
but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a
domain and you are
probably logging in with a domain account.

Better?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not
sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the
desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean
login
this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted
for
username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire
network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT
(with
double left click). I just get the error message.
Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I
use
at work) the computer returns the desktop computer
name
(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know
what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can
likely
figure it out.

Thanks


-----Original Message-----
Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when
you
connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of
BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and
use
a
username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of
your
desktop account on
the laptop.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+)
connected
to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP
Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless
network
card.

At this point, each computer can see the other
one
when
viewing "entire network". I have put them both
in a
workgroup of the same name. I even made the
SSID on
the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer.
When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
currently
no
logon servers available to service the logon
request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name
of
the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be
resolved
my
having the administrator at work create a
password
for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.


.



.



.

.

 

[Earl]

Ken,

I thought I posted a reply, but maybe not. So, I will
write it again.

I have 2000 professional on laptop. Do I need my
administrator at work to add a username and password that
duplicates the basement computer, or can I do it?

As far as remote sharing, I am actually on the laptop now
with a virtual session on the desktop using Net Meeting.
It's a little crude but seems to work. I don't think
that I can use Remote Network Connection directly in XP
Home Edition?

It's all been a fun learning experience, and I'm glad to
see some results in a couple of nights. Thanks again for
your help.

I might try some freeware called VNC from AT&T, have you
heard of it? My company IT guys think it will open ports
and leave me susceptible to hackers.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work. Here's what you can
do.

On the laptop create an account that uses the same username and password as
you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow you to access the
laptop from the desktop.

You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP Pro, visit the User
Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It will allow you to
store names and passwords for different servers. Use the name and password
that worked for NET USE.

Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or accessing the
Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter, you could consider
upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise there are 3-rd
party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used any of them. Maybe
others here have some advice.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
to authenticate through DOS evertime?

I also got the printer to work.

Thanks for your help.

This may sound like too much, but I would really like to
be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop when
I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
something else.

Thanks for all your help.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and type:

net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
explorer \\basement

It should prompt your for Earl's password after the

net
use. Does this

work?

The workgroup name is only important for browsing and has no role in
authentication.

and
confers no rights.

Ken,

Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to connect
as a different user through the Map Network Drive wizard
with no luck. Here's what I did:

1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
lower case).

2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user (I
tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
basement\earl).

3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I browse
out to Basement.

4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG

workgroup
and

nothing happens.

5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm back
to "There are currently no logon servers available to
service the logon request".

This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
router would it? I don't think so since the computers
can see each other.

Also, since the computers are both in the same workgroup
(HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?

I do appreciate all your help. If this thread reveals
any relevant info please get back to me, if not thanks
again.

-----Original Message-----
I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
server, you need to use
an account that makes sense to the server. In the
absence of a domain, each
computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to each
other.

So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
computer) and the account on
BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the

account
is

BASEMENT\User1. So
use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select

Connect
as

a different user,
and give it the full account name and password.

Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a
remote server,
Windows will try logging onto a server account

using
the

same short username
and password that you are logged on with. This works
for many home users,
but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a
domain and you are
probably logging in with a domain account.

Better?

warranties,
and

confers no rights.


Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not
sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the
desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean
login
this way upon startup, because I don't get

prompted
for

username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT (with
double left click). I just get the error message.
Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I
use
at work) the computer returns the desktop

computer
name

(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can likely
figure it out.

Thanks


-----Original Message-----
Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so

when
you

connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of
BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse

and
use

a
username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account

of
your

desktop account on
the laptop.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected
to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network
card.

At this point, each computer can see the other one
when
viewing "entire network". I have put them

both
in a

workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on
the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer.
When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
currently
no
logon servers available to service the logon
request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the

name
of

the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be
resolved
my
having the administrator at work create a password
for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.


.



.



.

.

 

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

I don't think there is much your domain admin can do. You could add another
local account to your laptop, this would require you to switch between
accounts when you use your laptop. You could just click on the share in
explorer and enter your name and password when prompted. If you don't mind
storing your password in batch file you could put one in your startup group
that did the net use.

It's possible you could add an account to your desktop that match the
username password of your laptop domain account. Not sure if that would
work, never tried it.

XP Home can't be a Remote Desktop server, just a client.

Never used VNC. If you are running the server on your desktop and the
desktop is behind a router, I doubt you have much to worry about.

It's good for me too to understand the troubles customers have with the NT
permissions model. A quick read through this newsgroup shows that it is not
obvious to a great many people.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

I thought I posted a reply, but maybe not. So, I will
write it again.

I have 2000 professional on laptop. Do I need my
administrator at work to add a username and password that
duplicates the basement computer, or can I do it?

As far as remote sharing, I am actually on the laptop now
with a virtual session on the desktop using Net Meeting.
It's a little crude but seems to work. I don't think
that I can use Remote Network Connection directly in XP
Home Edition?

It's all been a fun learning experience, and I'm glad to
see some results in a couple of nights. Thanks again for
your help.

I might try some freeware called VNC from AT&T, have you
heard of it? My company IT guys think it will open ports
and leave me susceptible to hackers.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work. Here's what you can
do.

On the laptop create an account that uses the same username and password as
you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow you to access the
laptop from the desktop.

You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP Pro, visit the User
Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It will allow you to
store names and passwords for different servers. Use the name and password
that worked for NET USE.

Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or accessing the
Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter, you could consider
upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise there are 3-rd
party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used any of them. Maybe
others here have some advice.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
to authenticate through DOS evertime?

I also got the printer to work.

Thanks for your help.

This may sound like too much, but I would really like to
be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop when
I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
something else.

Thanks for all your help.

Earl
-----Original Message-----
Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and
type:

net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
explorer \\basement

It should prompt your for Earl's password after the net
use. Does this
work?

The workgroup name is only important for browsing and
has no role in
authentication.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.


Ken,

Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to connect
as a different user through the Map Network Drive
wizard
with no luck. Here's what I did:

1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
lower case).

2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user (I
tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
basement\earl).

3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I browse
out to Basement.

4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG workgroup
and
nothing happens.

5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm
back
to "There are currently no logon servers available to
service the logon request".

This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
router would it? I don't think so since the computers
can see each other.

Also, since the computers are both in the same
workgroup
(HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?

I do appreciate all your help. If this thread reveals
any relevant info please get back to me, if not thanks
again.

-----Original Message-----
I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
server, you need to use
an account that makes sense to the server. In the
absence of a domain, each
computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to
each
other.

So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
computer) and the account on
BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account
is
BASEMENT\User1. So
use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect
as
a different user,
and give it the full account name and password.

Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a
remote server,
Windows will try logging onto a server account using
the
same short username
and password that you are logged on with. This works
for many home users,
but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a
domain and you are
probably logging in with a domain account.

Better?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not
sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the
desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean
login
this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted
for
username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire
network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT
(with
double left click). I just get the error message.
Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I
use
at work) the computer returns the desktop computer
name
(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know
what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can
likely
figure it out.

Thanks


-----Original Message-----
Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when
you
connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of
BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and
use
a
username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of
your
desktop account on
the laptop.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+)
connected
to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP
Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless
network
card.

At this point, each computer can see the other
one
when
viewing "entire network". I have put them both
in a
workgroup of the same name. I even made the
SSID on
the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer.
When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
currently
no
logon servers available to service the logon
request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name
of
the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be
resolved
my
having the administrator at work create a
password
for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.


.



.



.

.

 

[Earl]

Ken,

I am trying to reply post for the third time to your last
thread. Not sure what the problem is. I'm trying this
one from work. Last night I wrote:

"The laptop runs 2000 professional. Do I need an
administrator at work to set up the user name and
password, or can I do it within my profile?

As far as remote desktop, I was able to use net meeting to
access the desktop of the desktop from my laptop. It's
crude but works. It's crude because I need the computers
together to set it up and grant access for control.

I was considering using freeware called VNC from AT&T in
Cambridge for remote desktop stuff, but my IT people at
work say it is a security risk since it opens ports.

Thanks again for all your help. I have come a long way in
a couple of nights because of your help."

Earl

-----Original Message-----
The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work. Here's what you can
do.

On the laptop create an account that uses the same username and password as
you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow you to access the
laptop from the desktop.

You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP Pro, visit the User
Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It will allow you to
store names and passwords for different servers. Use the name and password
that worked for NET USE.

Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or accessing the
Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter, you could consider
upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise there are 3-rd
party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used any of them. Maybe
others here have some advice.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
to authenticate through DOS evertime?

I also got the printer to work.

Thanks for your help.

This may sound like too much, but I would really like to
be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop when
I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
something else.

Thanks for all your help.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and type:

net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
explorer \\basement

It should prompt your for Earl's password after the net use. Does this
work?

The workgroup name is only important for browsing and has no role in
authentication.

and
confers no rights.

Ken,

Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to connect
as a different user through the Map Network Drive wizard
with no luck. Here's what I did:

1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
lower case).

2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user (I
tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
basement\earl).

3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I browse
out to Basement.

4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG workgroup and
nothing happens.

5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm back
to "There are currently no logon servers available to
service the logon request".

This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
router would it? I don't think so since the computers
can see each other.

Also, since the computers are both in the same workgroup
(HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?

I do appreciate all your help. If this thread reveals
any relevant info please get back to me, if not thanks
again.

-----Original Message-----
I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
server, you need to use
an account that makes sense to the server. In the
absence of a domain, each
computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to each
other.

So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
computer) and the account on
BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account is
BASEMENT\User1. So
use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect as
a different user,
and give it the full account name and password.

Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a
remote server,
Windows will try logging onto a server account using the
same short username
and password that you are logged on with. This works
for many home users,
but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a
domain and you are
probably logging in with a domain account.

Better?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.


Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not
sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the
desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean
login
this way upon startup, because I don't get

prompted
for

username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT (with
double left click). I just get the error message.
Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I
use
at work) the computer returns the desktop computer name
(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can likely
figure it out.

Thanks


-----Original Message-----
Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so

when
you

connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of
BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and use
a
username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of your
desktop account on
the laptop.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+) connected
to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless network
card.

At this point, each computer can see the other one
when
viewing "entire network". I have put them both in a
workgroup of the same name. I even made the SSID on
the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer.
When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
currently
no
logon servers available to service the logon
request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the

name
of

the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be
resolved
my
having the administrator at work create a password
for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.


.



.



.

.

 

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

I've seen all 3 of your responses, and answered the last 2, hopefully you
can find them.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

I am trying to reply post for the third time to your last
thread. Not sure what the problem is. I'm trying this
one from work. Last night I wrote:

"The laptop runs 2000 professional. Do I need an
administrator at work to set up the user name and
password, or can I do it within my profile?

As far as remote desktop, I was able to use net meeting to
access the desktop of the desktop from my laptop. It's
crude but works. It's crude because I need the computers
together to set it up and grant access for control.

I was considering using freeware called VNC from AT&T in
Cambridge for remote desktop stuff, but my IT people at
work say it is a security risk since it opens ports.

Thanks again for all your help. I have come a long way in
a couple of nights because of your help."

Earl

-----Original Message-----
The net use trick was mostly to show that it does work. Here's what you can
do.

On the laptop create an account that uses the same username and password as
you use when you log into BASEMENT. That should allow you to access the
laptop from the desktop.

You don't mention what OS the laptop runs. If it is XP Pro, visit the User
Account control panel and go to the advanced tab. It will allow you to
store names and passwords for different servers. Use the name and password
that worked for NET USE.

Are you referring to just sharing the programs files or accessing the
Windows desktop of the desktop machine? If the latter, you could consider
upgrading to XP Pro which has Remote Desktop. Otherwise there are 3-rd
party products like PCAnywhere, but I have never used any of them. Maybe
others here have some advice.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ken,

It worked and I mapped the drive I wanted. Will I have
to authenticate through DOS evertime?

I also got the printer to work.

Thanks for your help.

This may sound like too much, but I would really like to
be able to run apps off the desktop from the laptop when
I'm home. Can I achieve this with PC Anywhere, VPN, or
something else.

Thanks for all your help.

Earl
-----Original Message-----
Try this, go to the laptop, open a command window and
type:

net use \\basement /user:basement\Earl *
explorer \\basement

It should prompt your for Earl's password after the net
use. Does this
work?

The workgroup name is only important for browsing and
has no role in
authentication.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.


Ken,

Thanks again for responding, but I attempted to connect
as a different user through the Map Network Drive
wizard
with no luck. Here's what I did:

1. Desktop has user Earl and I made a password (all
lower case).

2. Went to laptop and connected as a different user (I
tried both BASEMENT\Earl and Basement\Earl, even
basement\earl).

3. That returns me to Map Network Drive where I browse
out to Basement.

4. Double left click on Basement with HMMG workgroup
and
nothing happens.

5. Right click on Basement and try to open and I'm
back
to "There are currently no logon servers available to
service the logon request".

This wouldn't be a problem with the firewall in the
router would it? I don't think so since the computers
can see each other.

Also, since the computers are both in the same
workgroup
(HMMG) I wouldn't have to put that in front of the
username (e.g. HMMG\Basement\Earl)?

I do appreciate all your help. If this thread reveals
any relevant info please get back to me, if not thanks
again.

-----Original Message-----
I'll try and be more clear. When you connect to a
server, you need to use
an account that makes sense to the server. In the
absence of a domain, each
computer has it's own accounts which are unknown to
each
other.

So if you want to connect to BASEMENT (from any
computer) and the account on
BASEMENT is User1, then the full name of the account
is
BASEMENT\User1. So
use the Map Network Drive wizard, and select Connect
as
a different user,
and give it the full account name and password.

Now there is a sneaky shortcut. When you connect to a
remote server,
Windows will try logging onto a server account using
the
same short username
and password that you are logged on with. This works
for many home users,
but doesn't for you because your laptop is joined to a
domain and you are
probably logging in with a domain account.

Better?

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.


Ken,

Thanks for the prompt response. To clarify, I'm not
sure
I know what you mean when you say connect to the
desktop
with a username of BASEMENT\username. Do you mean
login
this way upon startup, because I don't get prompted
for
username and password when trying to access BASEMENT
through explore - my network places - entire
network -
microsoft windows network - WORKGROUP - BASEMENT
(with
double left click). I just get the error message.
Maybe
I'm trying to get at the folders the wrong way?

The second paragraph of your response also throws me
off. When I put in my username and password (that I
use
at work) the computer returns the desktop computer
name
(BASEMENT\), not the laptop name, in front of my
username
and asks for a new password.

You also mention desktop account. How do I know
what
this is?

If this is too much for you to deal with, I will
forward
your previous response to my IT guys, and we can
likely
figure it out.

Thanks


-----Original Message-----
Your laptop is probably joined to a domain so when
you
connect to the
desktop you will have to connect with a username of
BASEMENT\username.

For desktop to laptop, you can do the reverse and
use
a
username of
LAPTOPNAME\username or have a matching account of
your
desktop account on
the laptop.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
and
confers no rights.


I have a D-link wireless router (di-614+)
connected
to
cable modem. Desktop computer with Windows XP
Home
Edition connected to router with CAT5 ethernet
cable.
Laptop computer with Dlink dwl-650 wireless
network
card.

At this point, each computer can see the other
one
when
viewing "entire network". I have put them both
in a
workgroup of the same name. I even made the
SSID on
the
router the same as the workgroup.

However, I can't access files on either computer.
When I
try from laptop to desktop I get "There are
currently
no
logon servers available to service the logon
request".
When I try from desktop to laptop I don't have
password
for the BASEMENT\username. BASEMENT is the name
of
the
desktop computer. I think this issue can be
resolved
my
having the administrator at work create a
password
for
me.

I am getting frustrated, any help is appreciated.


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