Netmeeting vs MSN Messenger vs Windows Messenger

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Simon Brown

Hi,

What are the pros and cons of the above messenger utilities compared to
each other. I ask as I have been told there are security issues with
the MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger compared to Netmeeting.

(NOTE: I do not mean the messenger service that is by default disabled
with SP2)

Any advice or pointers would be appreciated.

Sim
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Differences Between MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/windowsmessenger/ballew_03august11.mspx

Microsoft NetMeeting: How It Can Work for You
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325408

How to Activate NetMeeting in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/tips/aljandali1.mspx

3 Steps to help insure your PC is protected:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.mspx

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| Hi,
|
| What are the pros and cons of the above messenger utilities compared to
| each other. I ask as I have been told there are security issues with
| the MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger compared to Netmeeting.
|
| (NOTE: I do not mean the messenger service that is by default disabled
| with SP2)
|
| Any advice or pointers would be appreciated.
|
| Sim
 
K

kurttrail

Tom said:
So, what are the pros and cons?

Carey is much better at cutting and pasting links than offering his
opinion.

Not that is all that good at cutting and pasting relevant links to begin
with, just that he does that better than expressing an opinion.

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
S

Simon Brown

Carey said:
Differences Between MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/windowsmessenger/ballew_03august11.mspx

Microsoft NetMeeting: How It Can Work for You
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325408

How to Activate NetMeeting in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/tips/aljandali1.mspx

3 Steps to help insure your PC is protected:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.mspx

Carey, (the cut and paster)
I was after, as my OP, the Pros and Cons of the different services.

I have previously been to all of the above websites.
My PC is SECURE, ZA Firewalled, up to date AV and AntiSpyware.

I have on occasion used Netmeeting to converse with my brother, via the
net, who is convinced that anything else is inferior and a thus a
security hole for his pc. He now questions my knowledge and considers me
to be, I Quote, "buying into the trap", whatever that's supposed to mean!

I, as many other people do, Use MSN Messenger for the vast majority of
my IMing. I have never had a problem myself with any of the
messenger/conferencing services.
Just want a reasonably informed view as to thier individual Pros & Cons.

Simon
 
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JW

hi Simon.
there might be more differences than these, but these are the ones i
know about (have either used, or read about but not used). excuse me
for repeating any that you already know about. this is also for the
benefit of other readers.


you must have a .Net passport and sign in to use Messenger.
you do not need a passport to use Net Meeting.

with Messenger, you can only communicate with people who are in your
Contact List, but you cannot communicate with somebody you do not know.
with Net Meeting, you can communicate with people you know, plus
communicate with total strangers using ILS servers.

you can place calls to regular telephones using MSN Messenger or with
Phone Dialer, but not with Win Messenger or Net Meeting.

as you know, MSN Messenger has more bells and whistles for personal
pleasure, such as interactive games, radio, alerts, reminders, and even
the ability to send messages to wrist watches capable of receiving text
messages, such as models by Swatch and Fossil. As if those were not
enough, you can add more bells and whistles with MSN Plus from
www.msgplus.net

using Net Meeting or Phone Dialer, you can place a call to an IP
address, or to the PC of a friend who has a URL redirected to his/her PC
(e.g. www.mycousin.No-IP.com), but not using either Messenger.

phone calls to friends in Philippines are better with Net Meeting.
with either Messenger, the sound broke up more for us, and the delay was
longer, resulting in talking at the same time the other person's
remarks were reaching me, and vice versa. to avoid further confusion,
we resorted to using "Walkie-Talkie" terms like "Over". this might be
an intermittent problem, or only a problem with Messenger over great
distances.

Win Messenger added conferencing features from Net Meeting and Phone
Dialer, so if you want to have voice or video conversations with more
than 2 people simultaneously, use Phone Dialer or Win Messenger, but not
MSN Messenger. if you want to use a Whiteboard or application sharing
with more than 2 people simultaneously, use Net Meeting or Win
Messenger, but not MSN Messenger.

Net Meeting uses different ports than both Messengers, so Net Meeting
users cannot have voice or video conversation with either Messenger, and
vice-versa.

Net Meeting and Phone Dialer are built into Windows. as you know, MSN
Messenger can be added to Windows. Win Messenger is only built into XP,
so Win Messenger is not an option for pre-XP users.
 
S

Simon Brown

JW said:
hi Simon.
there might be more differences than these, but these are the ones i
know about (have either used, or read about but not used). excuse me
for repeating any that you already know about. this is also for the
benefit of other readers.


you must have a .Net passport and sign in to use Messenger.
you do not need a passport to use Net Meeting.

with Messenger, you can only communicate with people who are in your
Contact List, but you cannot communicate with somebody you do not know.
with Net Meeting, you can communicate with people you know, plus
communicate with total strangers using ILS servers.

you can place calls to regular telephones using MSN Messenger or with
Phone Dialer, but not with Win Messenger or Net Meeting.

as you know, MSN Messenger has more bells and whistles for personal
pleasure, such as interactive games, radio, alerts, reminders, and even
the ability to send messages to wrist watches capable of receiving text
messages, such as models by Swatch and Fossil. As if those were not
enough, you can add more bells and whistles with MSN Plus from
www.msgplus.net

using Net Meeting or Phone Dialer, you can place a call to an IP
address, or to the PC of a friend who has a URL redirected to his/her PC
(e.g. www.mycousin.No-IP.com), but not using either Messenger.

phone calls to friends in Philippines are better with Net Meeting.
with either Messenger, the sound broke up more for us, and the delay was
longer, resulting in talking at the same time the other person's
remarks were reaching me, and vice versa. to avoid further confusion,
we resorted to using "Walkie-Talkie" terms like "Over". this might be
an intermittent problem, or only a problem with Messenger over great
distances.

Win Messenger added conferencing features from Net Meeting and Phone
Dialer, so if you want to have voice or video conversations with more
than 2 people simultaneously, use Phone Dialer or Win Messenger, but not
MSN Messenger. if you want to use a Whiteboard or application sharing
with more than 2 people simultaneously, use Net Meeting or Win
Messenger, but not MSN Messenger.

Net Meeting uses different ports than both Messengers, so Net Meeting
users cannot have voice or video conversation with either Messenger, and
vice-versa.

Net Meeting and Phone Dialer are built into Windows. as you know, MSN
Messenger can be added to Windows. Win Messenger is only built into XP,
so Win Messenger is not an option for pre-XP users.


Thats great information, thats the sort of info and differnces I was after.

Cheers.

Any more?


Sim
 
J

JW

yes. here are some more.


with NetMeeting, you can decide to make your meetings/calls secure or
non-secure. NetMeeting places non-secure calls by default. When you
exchange data during a secure meeting/conference, the data is encrypted
so only the intended recipients can read it. Certificates are used for
encryption and authentication of participants. During a secure
meeting/conference, you can use Chat, Whiteboard, application sharing,
and file transfers, with encryption, but you cannot use audio or video
because these are not encrypted. Messenger does not have this option.

you can place calls to telephone numbers using Net Meeting, if you have
something on your network called a telephone gateway, which is a server
or device on the network which can place telephone calls. This is
similar to how a fax gateway on your network can be used to send a fax,
if you have no fax connected directly to your PC.

As the other respondent mentioned, Remote Desktop Sharing allows you to
access a computer at one location from a computer at another location,
such as accessing your work computer from your home PC. You can also
use Remote Desktop Sharing for technical support, so if you have a PC
problem, a tech support person can access your computer while you watch.
The difference between Remote Desktop Sharing and the feature in MSN
Messenger called Remote Assistance is that RDS will not work if Net
Meeting is open. RDS must be activated first, then Net Meeting must be
closed in order for RDS to work. MSN Messenger must be open for Remote
Assistance to work. in XP, RA can be launched without Win Messenger
being open (even though RA works using Win Messenger code). Also RDS
and RA uses different ports/protocols.

the only other difference i can think regard support from 3rd-party
programs. for example, ZoneLabs has a products called IMsecure, which
can encrypt IM conversations that use MSN Messenger, AOL Messenger,
Yahoo IM, etc. but it does not support Net Meeting.
 

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