Need to set up FTP connection for windows 98 PC, please.

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dos-man

My computer is running windows 98. My Xbox is also running windows 98
via emulation. I need to find a way to establish an ftp connection
between these two. I can normally ftp files back and forth, but it
doesn't work when I load 98 onto the xbox.

Someone please tell me how to set up an ftp server on one of these
machines, so that I can transfer files back and forth.

Dos-Man
 
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Sjouke Burry

dos-man said:
My computer is running windows 98. My Xbox is also running windows 98
via emulation. I need to find a way to establish an ftp connection
between these two. I can normally ftp files back and forth, but it
doesn't work when I load 98 onto the xbox.

Someone please tell me how to set up an ftp server on one of these
machines, so that I can transfer files back and forth.

Dos-Man
I use the addon fireftp in firefox to ftp, works nicely.
 
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dos-man

I use the addon fireftp in firefox to ftp, works nicely.

On which machine? The xbox running 98 doesn't have firefox. I have no
way to get it (or any other file) over there until I establish some
type of connection between these two. 98 on an xbox is running in a
vacuum. Note that neither machine is hooked up to the internet,
although the PC is using the ip address 192.168.0.5 and the xbox is
set up to use 192.168.0.3.

dos-man
 
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Paul

dos-man said:
On which machine? The xbox running 98 doesn't have firefox. I have no
way to get it (or any other file) over there until I establish some
type of connection between these two. 98 on an xbox is running in a
vacuum. Note that neither machine is hooked up to the internet,
although the PC is using the ip address 192.168.0.5 and the xbox is
set up to use 192.168.0.3.

dos-man

To set up an FTP connection, one computer runs an FTP server, the
other runs the FTP client. That would be enough to establish a
connection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FTP_server_software

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_FTP_server_software
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_FTP_client_software

An example of a client, is when you type

ftp://ftp.somehost.com

in a web browser. Or, if you are using local addresses that
aren't in DNS, it would be like

ftp://192.168.0.3

where 192.168.0.3 would be the machine running the server
program.

When running a server program, they all have some kind of
security features. Perhaps one many years ago, when started,
would have given access to the entire local disk. But as
they become more sophisticated, they begin to restrict
the folders that are visible to the FTP client, or even
tie into the security/permissions system of the host
computer OS. That can sometimes complicate the choice of
a server program, depending on the OS you are using.

Anyway, that should be enough to get you started.

With an OS like Win98, and the FAT32 file system,
the largest single file might be 4GB, so if you
are transferring files larger than that, you'll
need to work around that limit.

Paul
 
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Grinder

dos-man said:
My computer is running windows 98. My Xbox is also running windows 98
via emulation. I need to find a way to establish an ftp connection
between these two. I can normally ftp files back and forth, but it
doesn't work when I load 98 onto the xbox.

Someone please tell me how to set up an ftp server on one of these
machines, so that I can transfer files back and forth.

There aren't a lot of options, as I see it, for freeware Windows 98 FTP
servers. I haven't used any of these, but you might investigate:

Serv-U Personal Edition
http://www.serv-u.com/Serv-UEditions.asp

War FTP Daemon
http://www.warftp.org/index.php?menu=344

Golden FTP Server
http://goldenftpserver.com/

That last one makes of point of advertising that it is simple to use.

I don't know how well the Win98 emulator works on your xbox, so running
any given software might be a bit of a crap shoot.

What emulator are you using?
 
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Calab

My computer is running windows 98. My Xbox is also running
Not to be an ass, but how does an XBox or Windows 98 have anything to
do with PC hardware?

You'd get a better response asking in relevant groups.

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dos-man

There aren't a lot of options, as I see it, for freeware Windows 98 FTP
servers. I haven't used any of these, but you might investigate:

Serv-U Personal Editionhttp://www.serv-u.com/Serv-UEditions.asp

War FTP Daemonhttp://www.warftp.org/index.php?menu=344

Golden FTP Serverhttp://goldenftpserver.com/

That last one makes of point of advertising that it is simple to use.

I don't know how well the Win98 emulator works on your xbox, so running
any given software might be a bit of a crap shoot.

What emulator are you using?

I will make it a point to try out Golden ftp server. First I will
check to see what kind of FTP server softwares come with Linux. I need
to look and see if there is a newsgroup specifically devoted to the
subject of FTP.

The emulator works ok on the xbox. Where it messes up is not shutting
down properly a lot. You spend a considerable amount of time
rebooting, waiting for scandisk, being forced into safe mode, etc. The
software is called 98Lite. It does include Qemu or whatever it is.

Thank you to the other people for their responses as well. And, yes,
it was a bit of an off-the-wall post for a hardware ng. My apologies.
It looks grim right now, but I rarely let my computer beat me. I mean
if this works out, I might even grab a copy of windows me on ebay and
run that one for a little bit (shudder).

dos-man
 
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dos-man

To set up an FTP connection, one computer runs an FTP server, the
other runs the FTP client. That would be enough to establish a
connection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FTP_server_software

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...ia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_FTP_client_software

An example of a client, is when you type

ftp://ftp.somehost.com

in a web browser. Or, if you are using local addresses that
aren't in DNS, it would be like

ftp://192.168.0.3

where 192.168.0.3 would be the machine running the server
program.

When running a server program, they all have some kind of
security features. Perhaps one many years ago, when started,
would have given access to the entire local disk. But as
they become more sophisticated, they begin to restrict
the folders that are visible to the FTP client, or even
tie into the security/permissions system of the host
computer OS. That can sometimes complicate the choice of
a server program, depending on the OS you are using.

Anyway, that should be enough to get you started.

With an OS like Win98, and the FAT32 file system,
the largest single file might be 4GB, so if you
are transferring files larger than that, you'll
need to work around that limit.

Paul

Paul, there isn't any ftp server software built into 98?
 
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Paul

dos-man said:
Paul, there isn't any ftp server software built into 98?

Not that I could find. I tried looking around, but couldn't
even figure out what I used for an FTP server the last time
I tried it. I might have used the server that came with
a larger commercial package (something I got from work).
I tried searching a couple machines here, for "ftp", but
didn't see anything that tweaked my memory.

I'd search through the Wikipedia list of FTP software,
and see if there is something there that is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_FTP_server_software

1) free
2) secure

If you had some plan, of offering an FTP service to the
Internet (port forwarding your router, so incoming FTP
requests are forwarded to a particular computer on your
LAN side), then the FTP server software should be as up
to date as possible (better security). Hackers are
continually finding exploits on FTP server software,
potentially allowing remote control of machines. Or even
using the machine to store and stage downloads for others.

If you're just using FTP between two machines on your
LAN side, that isn't quite as bad. NAT on your router,
provides some protection in that case. But as a rule,
I disable any FTP servers I'm running, when I'm finished
with them. For example, my old Mac has an FTPD build
into MacOSX, and it is a simple matter to just click a
box and turn it on. But once finished with it (and
I don't regularly use the Mac any more), I leave it
disabled.

Could you set up file sharing, between the two
boxes ? For example, it talks about "map network drive"
here. The other half of the solution, is setting up
"sharing" on the other end. Like, right click on the
drive, and see if "Sharing" is an option in the menu.
Maybe you could whip up a free solution that way.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win98/reskit/part3/wrkc18.mspx?mfr=true

Paul
 
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Paul

CBFalconer said:
Didn't you bother reading my earlier message?

Volume in drive C is WD30-PRI41 Serial number is 3CE4:239B
Directory of C:\windows\ftp*

FTP.EXE 45056 5-11-98 19:01
ftp.pif 995 3-19-02 10:45 PIF file to launch ftp in
new window
46,051 bytes in 2 files and 0 dirs 49,152 bytes
allocated

(Actually copyright by UCSD and stolen by MS)

Volume in drive C is WD30-PRI41 Serial number is 3CE4:239B
Directory of C:\cfiles\newpage\download\dosftp*

dosftp.txt 12259 4-07-02 21:58 Usage for FTP supplied with
W9x
12,259 bytes in 1 file and 0 dirs 12,288 bytes
allocated

(Documentation for it, available to all on my download section.}

Sure I read your message. The software in question is:

A client ?

A server ?

Which is it ?

I'm trying to help the guy out by pointing him to a server.
Clients are much easier to find (hint - your web browser).

Paul
 
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Grinder

Paul said:
Sure I read your message. The software in question is:

A client ?

A server ?

Which is it ?

I'm trying to help the guy out by pointing him to a server.
Clients are much easier to find (hint - your web browser).

ftp.exe that comes with Windows 2000/XP is just a client. I presume,
though have not verified, that it's the same for Windows 9x.
 

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