Need to prevent B/W only documents are printed by color printer

[mustafa]

Hello,
I need to find a way to prevent users to print their B/W only print
jobs to color printers.

The color printers are network printers and defined as windows 2003
server print queues.

There may be a way to do it on server, client or printer side?

thanks for your reply in advance.
must.

 

[Tom Willett]

What did the printer manufacturer say when you checked with their support?

 

[mustafa]

HP support said that their printers or printer drivers do not have such
a feature.


Tom Willett yazdi:

 

[Tom Willett]

So, there's your answer.

HP support said that their printers or printer drivers do not have such
a feature.


Tom Willett yazdi:

 

[Malke]

HP support said that their printers or printer drivers do not have
such a feature.


Tom Willett yazdi:

Well, there you go then. You'll have to educate your users. If you have
a server, you can enable print auditing or your networked printers may
have auditing/quota capabilities so you can keep track of who printed
what.

Audit User Access of Files, Folders, and Printers in Windows XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=310399

Audit Active Directory Objects in Windows Server 2003 -
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=814595

To add users or groups to the audit list - http://tinyurl.com/lozjc

Malke

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

In

Hello,
I need to find a way to prevent users to print their B/W only print
jobs to color printers.

The color printers are network printers and defined as windows 2003
server print queues.

There may be a way to do it on server, client or printer side?

thanks for your reply in advance.
must.

In addition to the other replies - you can set security on the printer share
so that only certain groups/users are allowed to use it at all, if you can't
manage to educate them properly.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Hello,
I need to find a way to prevent users to print their B/W only print
jobs to color printers.

Train your users to select the correct printer for each print job.

The color printers are network printers and defined as windows 2003
server print queues.

There may be a way to do it on server, client or printer side?

No, there isn't. The operating systems would have no way of knowing
whether or not any given print job required color; all they see are 1s
and 0s.

You can, of course, use permissions and privileges to completely block
any given user from any given printer. You might want to use this
method until you get the users properly trained.


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[Bob I]

Black is a color. Any correction will be done at the client side at the
keyboard connection.

 

[Plato]

Train your users to select the correct printer for each print job.

Send this memo out:


M E M O R A N D U M

Keeping in line with our companies green policy the secterial staff has
been instructed to immediately remove, shread, and recycle ALL black and
white print jobs that have been sent to the color printers.

Thanks you for your understanding. This policy will take effect
immediately.

 

[Plato]

Black is a color.

Incorrect.

 

[Bob I]

Incorrect.

That is incorrect, look it up.

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

That is incorrect, look it up.

Technically, Plato is correct - IF he is describing black as it exists
in the additive color system (RGB), where a mixture of the three
primary colors (red, green, blue) are mixed together and become white.
White then can be defined as the presence of all colors, and black as
the absence of all/any colors.

In the subtractive system, black is the combination of all colors (red,
yellow, blue and their variants).

 

[Gordon]

Technically, Plato is correct - IF he is describing black as it exists
in the additive color system (RGB), where a mixture of the three
primary colors (red, green, blue) are mixed together and become white.
White then can be defined as the presence of all colors, and black as
the absence of all/any colors.

Still not correct. A white surface is the /reflection/ of all the visible
spectrum, a black surface is the /absorption/ of all the visible spectrum.

 

[Bob I]

Technically, Plato is correct - IF he is describing black as it exists
in the additive color system (RGB), where a mixture of the three
primary colors (red, green, blue) are mixed together and become white.
White then can be defined as the presence of all colors, and black as
the absence of all/any colors.

In the subtractive system, black is the combination of all colors (red,
yellow, blue and their variants).

We are dealing with a printer, black is a color. On a "monitor", black
is the "absence of color".

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

We are dealing with a printer, black is a color. On a "monitor", black
is the "absence of color".

And that is exactly the right point. Although Plato *is* technically
correct, his statement is meaningless and misleading in the context of the
thread.

 

[Barry Watzman]

Black is not necessarily "a" color.

Color printers that have black ink may produce black in either of two ways:

1. Black ink

2. In a subtractive color system (which ink printing is), you get black
as the sum of:

-Cyan (subtracts red from the white light hitting the paper)
-Yellow (subtracts blue from the white light hitting the paper)
-Magenta (subtracts green from the white light hitting the paper)

White light -red, -blue, -green leaves nothing (black).

And, in fact, a LOT of the black print coming from a color printer comes
from "process black" and not from the black ink, even in printers that
have 4 (or more) ink cartridges.

 

[Donald L McDaniel]

Still not correct. A white surface is the /reflection/ of all the visible
spectrum, a black surface is the /absorption/ of all the visible spectrum.

In any case, if his network printer policy is not to send B/W print
jobs to the Color printers, it will be up to the users to decide not
to send B/W print jobs to the Color printers.

This can only be accomplished through proper education by the Network
staff (and then, of course, by the compliance of the Network clients).

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[Donald L McDaniel]

Black is not necessarily "a" color.

Color printers that have black ink may produce black in either of two ways:

1. Black ink

2. In a subtractive color system (which ink printing is), you get black
as the sum of:

-Cyan (subtracts red from the white light hitting the paper)
-Yellow (subtracts blue from the white light hitting the paper)
-Magenta (subtracts green from the white light hitting the paper)

White light -red, -blue, -green leaves nothing (black).

And, in fact, a LOT of the black print coming from a color printer comes
from "process black" and not from the black ink, even in printers that
have 4 (or more) ink cartridges.

As in many (if not all) Lexmark printers, which only allow one to use
the Black cartridge exclusively if he selects "B/W printing only".

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Donald L McDaniel
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